Why do the major political parties in the U.S. suck?

[Venom]

They both have corporate donors now. The Democratic Party is far from what it used to be.

[WarHeRo]

lets establish OT party in the USA. we can rule better

[Sigma957]

Because they're not American.

[Ulfrinn]

In the US? Roflmao, where in the world do politicians not suck?

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Republicans are Democrats and vice-versa, hell, they used to be ONE PARTY.

[Dom]

Corporate donors aren't necessarily a bad thing. Neither are billionaire donations. People can support both good or bad causes, regardless of their socioeconomic status.

It's a bad thing if people are being misled into thinking that the party in question doesn't have corporate donations or backings by billionaires.

Everytime I hear people say that a political movement where one billionaire buys their way into another billionaire's government for $260 million is somehow going to fight "deep state", "corruption" and "crony capitalism", I cannot help but cringe.

I guess the programming has worked really well on some people, to the point where they become blind to all of that.

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dom:

Corporate donors aren't necessarily a bad thing. Neither are billionaire donations. People can support both good or bad causes, regardless of their socioeconomic status.

It's a bad thing if people are being misled into thinking that the party in question doesn't have corporate donations or backings by billionaires.

Everytime I hear people say that a political movement where one billionaire buys their way into another billionaire's government for $260 million is somehow going to fight "deep state", "corruption" and "crony capitalism", I cannot help but cringe.

I guess the programming has worked really well on some people, to the point where they become blind to all of that.

So the guy who spends all his time complaining about American politics, is totally okay with the corporatism and big-money that has caused a lot of the issues with American politics that he constantly complains about?

That's quite the circle there.

[90054321564584560]

because world revolves around money

[Masque]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ulfrinn:

In the US? Roflmao, where in the world do politicians not suck?

Utopia. Which translated means "no place".

[sleeps]

ok so who came up with electoral college?

[Masque]

Początkowo opublikowane przez sleeps:

ok so who came up with electoral college?

I'd love to buy them a beer.

In fact I wish each state had its own, internal, county-based electoral college.

Los Angeles shouldn't decide, for example and in my opinion, everything for the entire state of California. But they do. Despite the fact that most of the counties in California don't want the things that Los Angeles wants. Same with just about ever other state.

The electoral college is what makes us a union of States. If you get rid of it, you may as well just erase all the state lines and call us the People's Republic of Usa. And society can just eventually forget what the "s" ever stood for.

[Dom]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Sir Dookface McFerretballs:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dom:

Corporate donors aren't necessarily a bad thing. Neither are billionaire donations. People can support both good or bad causes, regardless of their socioeconomic status.

It's a bad thing if people are being misled into thinking that the party in question doesn't have corporate donations or backings by billionaires.

Everytime I hear people say that a political movement where one billionaire buys their way into another billionaire's government for $260 million is somehow going to fight "deep state", "corruption" and "crony capitalism", I cannot help but cringe.

I guess the programming has worked really well on some people, to the point where they become blind to all of that.

So the guy who spends all his time complaining about American politics, is totally okay with the corporatism and big-money that has caused a lot of the issues with American politics that he constantly complains about?

That's quite the circle there. :MMForFun:

I don't spend all my time here - more often than not I post just couple times a day. But it feels like 24x7 because my posts are most comprehensive, I know.

Where have I been complaining about "big money" and "corporationism" ? Link please.

And which issues do you refer to? Trumpism?

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dom:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Sir Dookface McFerretballs:

So the guy who spends all his time complaining about American politics, is totally okay with the corporatism and big-money that has caused a lot of the issues with American politics that he constantly complains about?

That's quite the circle there.

I don't spend all my time here - more often than not I post just couple times a day. But it feels like 24x7 because my posts are most comprehensive, I know.

Where have I been complaining about "big money" and "corporationism" ? Link please.

And which issues do you refer to? Trumpism?

You literally say it at the top of your own post.

Do you not read or comprehend what you are posting or replying to?

Let me re-quote it for you, in case you missed it.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dom:

Corporate donors aren't necessarily a bad thing. Neither are billionaire donations.

[Dom]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Sir Dookface McFerretballs:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dom:

I don't spend all my time here - more often than not I post just couple times a day. But it feels like 24x7 because my posts are most comprehensive, I know.

Where have I been complaining about "big money" and "corporationism" ? Link please.

And which issues do you refer to? Trumpism?

You literally say it at the top of your own post!

Do you not read or comprehend what you are posting or replying to?

Let me re-quote it for you, in case you missed it.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dom:

Corporate donors aren't necessarily a bad thing. Neither are billionaire donations.

You claimed I said it's an issue or I'm complaining about it. How does that quote prove your statement? I said it's not necessarily a bad thing.

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dom:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Sir Dookface McFerretballs:

You literally say it at the top of your own post!

Do you not read or comprehend what you are posting or replying to?

Let me re-quote it for you, in case you missed it.

You claimed I said it's an issue or I'm complaining about it. How does that quote prove your statement? I said it's not necessarily a bad thing.

I didn't say you complain about corporatism, I said you complain about politics.

You seem very "pro-big money" which is one of the reasons American politics are so terrible in general.

[Dom]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Sir Dookface McFerretballs:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dom:

You claimed I said it's an issue or I'm complaining about it. How does that quote prove your statement? I said it's not necessarily a bad thing.

I didn't say you complain about corporatism, I said you complain about politics.

You seem very "pro-big money" which is one of the reasons American politics are so terrible in general.

If by "complaining about politics" you mean I have political views and I express them, sure.

At no point have I been your average "screw money, all billionaires, elite" type-of-person because I find those (brainrot comments) incredibly cringe and non-constructive.

I also think in most cases it's people throwing their own issues on others and blaming them for the bad things in their lives. Things will not get better with such attitudes.