Is it true that China is economically forcing USA to forfeit the dollars with international trade?

[Getmegreek]

Dark times are coming - Obi Wan

[Birds]

Wow so everyone got 20% inflation all at the same time huh?

[crunchyfrog]

Bird eredeti hozzászólása:

Wow so everyone got 20% inflation all at the same time huh?

Pretty much yes, although it's not exactly as simple as that. But yes, a massive downgrade in worth of the yuan.

To be fair, it liekyl doesn't directly affect people as the yuan is a currency that has little outside use. Nobody IN China as a citizen is spending it abroad for example for the most part.

But what it will mean is that when the CCP or companies buy goods from outside China it will affect trade values. And that will knock on to the price of goods that consumers have to buy.

Might not be 20%, but it will have an effect.

[Amuro0079]

LOL, Crunchy, some of what you said is maybe 1% truth 99% exaggeration while others completely nonsense. You should stop consuming anti-China propaganda. It just shows that you're living in your little hate bubble.

Real fact: Economists all over the world have been revising up their estimates for China's GDP growth in 2023, with some predicting a rate as high as 5.8%. You should also know that all major banks in China are state owned. They ain't gonna collapse unless the government collapses first, in your dreams. Lastly, China's inflation is super low 2% for 2022, below the official target of 3%. 2023 projections are more less the same. Now, please take a look at your own inflation in UK, LOL, and how's that compare?

I know the truth really hurts for people like you, and your coping isn't working. Nice try though.

[crunchyfrog]

Amuro0079 eredeti hozzászólása:

LOL, Crunchy, some of what you said is maybe 1% truth 99% exaggeration while others completely nonsense. You should stop consuming anti-China propaganda. It just shows that you're living in your little hate bubble.

Real fact: Economists all over the world have been revising up their estimates for China's GDP growth in 2023, with some predicting a rate as high as 5.8%. You should also know that all major banks in China are state owned. They ain't gonna collapse unless the government collapses first, in your dreams. Lastly, China's inflation is super low 2% for 2022, below the official target of 3%. 2023 projections are more less the same. Now, please take a look at your own inflation in UK, LOL, and how's that compare?

I know the truth really hurts for people like you, and your coping isn't working. Nice try though.

Oh as usual I can provide evidence of this. Please stop pulling the wumao stuff as it's getting silly.


Present evidence for YOUR claim then.


Demonstrate figures how this is as low as you claim and tell me why if that's the case those netizens who showed the energy costs going up as I stated are somehow wrong, and the banking collapse and building trade collapse are also wrong.

Given that the building trade is a MASSIVE part of China's economy, then you expect us to believe that infaltion is a mere 2%?

THat CANNOT add up at all.

So go ahead show your evidence.

[talemore]

Inflation maybe low but it doesn't mean the production is higher. No, it's the case that China has stagnation. Inflation not going up is just as bad as having too much.

[crunchyfrog]

talemore eredeti hozzászólása:

Inflation maybe low but it doesn't mean the production is higher. No, it's the case that China has stagnation. Inflation not going up is just as bad as having too much.

A fair point.

Although they do have massive inflation as there's considerable evidence for this. You can start here, as it describes with evidence all that I said above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2guSD1uVFk

[ジーク]

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

talemore eredeti hozzászólása:

Inflation maybe low but it doesn't mean the production is higher. No, it's the case that China has stagnation. Inflation not going up is just as bad as having too much.

A fair point.

Although they do have massive inflation as there's considerable evidence for this. You can start here, as it describes with evidence all that I said above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2guSD1uVFk

I believe that China will win over everyone militarily and economically

[crunchyfrog]

ジーク eredeti hozzászólása:

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

A fair point.

Although they do have massive inflation as there's considerable evidence for this. You can start here, as it describes with evidence all that I said above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2guSD1uVFk

I believe that China will win over everyone militarily and economically

Believe all you like - until evidence shows that's likely, the actuial reality is quite the opposite as I pointed out.

The CCP will NEVER get there. If China ditches them (which'll never happen anytime soon) then maybe, as Taiwan has shown what happens when they ditch bad regimes. They thrive.

[ジーク]

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

ジーク eredeti hozzászólása:

I believe that China will win over everyone militarily and economically

Believe all you like - until evidence shows that's likely, the actuial reality is quite the opposite as I pointed out.

The CCP will NEVER get there. If China ditches them (which'll never happen anytime soon) then maybe, as Taiwan has shown what happens when they ditch bad regimes. They thrive.

Communism is very good if you do everything correctly

[ジーク]

Democracy is not suitable for all countries, some are suitable for monarchy or other authoritarianism

[Kobs]

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A͓̽p͓̽o͓̽t͓̽h͓̽e͓̽o eredeti hozzászólása:

I won't trust the the Yuan one bit.

What's wrong with the Mongol dynasty of China? They cool.

As long as you don't give them guns lolll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD1gDSao1eA&list=PLgPoJmoSKy-i8uySmzTPeIIMo0Z1hdAda&index=8&ab_channel=BetterNoiseMusic

[Under there]

one step closer to a global digital currency tied to your social presence
thanks for ushering it in, guys. your thunderous, drooling applause for recent political events has cleared the way for a century of techno-medical tyranny.

[DataLine]

240p enjoyer eredeti hozzászólása:

one step closer to a global digital currency tied to your social presence
thanks for ushering it in, guys. your thunderous, drooling applause for recent political events has cleared the way for a century of techno-medical tyranny.

The IMF annouced it this week

[crunchyfrog]

ジーク eredeti hozzászólása:

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

Believe all you like - until evidence shows that's likely, the actuial reality is quite the opposite as I pointed out.

The CCP will NEVER get there. If China ditches them (which'll never happen anytime soon) then maybe, as Taiwan has shown what happens when they ditch bad regimes. They thrive.

Communism is very good if you do everything correctly

Yes indeed - ANY form of government can be, but that's not a valid argument to say that the CCP will be.

You do know that Taiwan tops the world in the freedom ratings, right? Somewhere around 95% or so. Where's China? 9% second from bottom or something like that (I haven't checked in a while).

Teh thing is that the claim that China can take over and be a replacement is nonsense and there one VERY good example to demonstrate why.

Tell me how is Hong Kong doing these days since China took over fully?

[ジーク]

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

ジーク eredeti hozzászólása:

Communism is very good if you do everything correctly

Yes indeed - ANY form of government can be, but that's not a valid argument to say that the CCP will be.

You do know that Taiwan tops the world in the freedom ratings, right? Somewhere around 95% or so. Where's China? 9% second from bottom or something like that (I haven't checked in a while).

Teh thing is that the claim that China can take over and be a replacement is nonsense and there one VERY good example to demonstrate why.

Tell me how is Hong Kong doing these days since China took over fully?

New Zealand and Australia take prizes in the index of freedoms and democracies