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I'm tired of the anti woke crowd.
They're filled with racists, coomers, people who make thousands of accounts pretending to be Japanese to basically cancel culture devs, etc.

I have started to hate the anti woke crowd because of the disaster of the "Anti woke Godot" engine. It was just so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hilarious seeing some inc*ls rage at a literal joke. And also the many "This will save gaming" type posts.

What I hate is corporate or forced progressivism, by the way. Cyberpunk 2077 and Glitch Techs are cool to me.
Terakhir diedit oleh Novostranger; 10 Des 2024 @ 6:08pm
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Diposting pertama kali oleh tyl0413:
This one? https://store.steampowered.com/curator/44927664-Woke-Content-Detector/

That's a troll, at least you could've used the various more popular ones and more accurate ones but some always go out of their way to pull up that one specifically.


Enjoy your wokeness then i guess.


oh yeah im only asking cuz they kicked me for saying hentai games are woke

(DEI inclusionary because women.. duh! its in their methodology handbook!)
so yeah, kinda proves the whole goonable woman = not DEI/woke
not attractive enough/no fanservice.. = DEI and woke

they seem to take it rlly srsly so tbhats why im asking
That is not a genuine group and very much misrepresents actual anti-woke opinions, at the very least the owners are disingenuous, I have talked with him, I gave him feedback, I tried my best to explain it really nicely, he didn't really care (like a wokie) and his group became a laughing stock used to discredit actual valid criticism just because hes more interesting too in pushing his weird ideas or just misinforming people or just trolling than properly rating games.

Obviously hentai is not woke, wokes hate most japanese media (that isnt modern westernized trash), he actively downvotes fanservice games because "muh degeneracy" (like a wokie), some suspect hes an undercover wokie, honestly if he was I wouldn't be surprised, hes done a great job at discrediting "anti-woke" people while pretending to be one, and if not, just further proves how real horseshoe theory is, most anti-woke people ik disagree with him, and that is objectively backed by the fact his curator has the least followers out of all of them, and probably a good portion of those followers doesnt agree either they just followed it without checking the details.
Terakhir diedit oleh tyl0413; 12 Mar @ 6:12pm
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oh yeah im only asking cuz they kicked me for saying hentai games are woke

(DEI inclusionary because women.. duh! its in their methodology handbook!)
so yeah, kinda proves the whole goonable woman = not DEI/woke
not attractive enough/no fanservice.. = DEI and woke

they seem to take it rlly srsly so tbhats why im asking
That is not a genuine group and very much misrepresents actual anti-woke opinions, at the very least the owners are disingenuous, I have talked with him, I gave him feedback, I tried my best to explain it really nicely, he didn't really care (like a wokie) and his group became a laughing stock used to discredit actual valid criticism just because hes more interesting too in pushing his weird ideas or just misinforming people or just trolling than properly rating games.

Obviously hentai is not woke, wokes hate most japanese media (that isnt modern westernized trash), he actively downvotes fanservice games because "muh degeneracy" (like a wokie), some suspect hes an undercover wokie, honestly if he was I wouldn't be surprised, hes done a great job at discrediting "anti-woke" people while pretending to be one, and if not, just further proves how real horseshoe theory is, most anti-woke people ik disagree with him, and that is objectively backed by the fact his curator has the least followers out of all of them, and probably a good portion of those followers doesnt agree either they just followed it without checking the details.
Actually it pretty much does represent the overall opinion of the anti-woke group perfectly. To the anti-woke mob if a woman isn’t just goon bait, it woke.

I find it kind of funny that you think people who are woke would have any issue with anime/manga content, considering that anime/manga has a lot of woke content in them.

If anything the anti-woke mob would hate anime if they actually watch it.
Like I’ve seen the anti-woke crowd freaking attack jojo for its lgbt content.
Diposting pertama kali oleh Samular Saber:
Diposting pertama kali oleh tyl0413:
That is not a genuine group and very much misrepresents actual anti-woke opinions, at the very least the owners are disingenuous, I have talked with him, I gave him feedback, I tried my best to explain it really nicely, he didn't really care (like a wokie) and his group became a laughing stock used to discredit actual valid criticism just because hes more interesting too in pushing his weird ideas or just misinforming people or just trolling than properly rating games.

Obviously hentai is not woke, wokes hate most japanese media (that isnt modern westernized trash), he actively downvotes fanservice games because "muh degeneracy" (like a wokie), some suspect hes an undercover wokie, honestly if he was I wouldn't be surprised, hes done a great job at discrediting "anti-woke" people while pretending to be one, and if not, just further proves how real horseshoe theory is, most anti-woke people ik disagree with him, and that is objectively backed by the fact his curator has the least followers out of all of them, and probably a good portion of those followers doesnt agree either they just followed it without checking the details.
Actually it pretty much does represent the overall opinion of the anti-woke group perfectly. To the anti-woke mob if a woman isn’t just goon bait, it woke.

I find it kind of funny that you think people who are woke would have any issue with anime/manga content, considering that anime/manga has a lot of woke content in them.

If anything the anti-woke mob would hate anime if they actually watch it.
Like I’ve seen the anti-woke crowd freaking attack jojo for its lgbt content.

Why do you care if its goon bait, why must it be ugly is the real question.

Entire topic is just the usual gaslighting, if inserting your agenda didn't matter you wouldn't be doing it and wouldn't be complaining that people don't like it in there.

Its telling that in female goon bait media they aren't making the men ugly, revealing as always its just an attack on male entertainment.

Leftist censorship and agenda insertion in anime localization have been known for a long time.

Anime is hardly pure, but its not quite as totally pozd as mainstream western entertainment yet.

This is all stuff you'd know if you had actually followed and watched this stuff.
We've had to deal with an onslaught of 24/7 woke propaganda for a decade now.

Buckle up buckaroo. Its going to be a while.
Diposting pertama kali oleh Samular Saber:
As annoying as SJW were, they were no where near as bad or as toxic as the anti-woke mob are
They created the anti- woke mob by culling any kind of civil discussion on the matter.

They made the current climate; 2 polarized groups just shouting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and flinging ♥♥♥♥ at each other from their own youtube channels.

Anyone tries to actually have a serious discussion with anyone else on the matter? They both get ripped apart by both extremist crowds.

That's what wokes have made. It's definitely bad and toxic.
Diposting pertama kali oleh LupisVolk:
And i laugh when these types of people get push back over games with women by going "we didn't say having women equals woke." Like my brother in christ you do.
It's not a problem with women.

Games with women sell well. Just not all of them.

Criticism of a thing, featuring a woman... is not misogyny.

It's just criticism.
Diposting pertama kali oleh Falco:
Diposting pertama kali oleh cupid:

Would also like to add that the anti-woke crowd thinks like this
women in general = woke
writing good women characters that are strong = woke
writing bad women characters that are weak = woke
writing any women characters for fanservice = NOT WOKE because they can sniff their feet using an in game command!

Extreme generalizations and the additional demonization of an entire belief?

I'm sure that's a great thing on your part.

Diposting pertama kali oleh cupid:

What's your opinion on poorly crafted characters? In general, you know? like, because it's relevant? I don't understand how your question pertains to this discussion lol.

Why did I bring it up? Take a look at this response and see why.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Samular Saber:

It really doesn’t matter to the anti-woke whether the woman is well written or not. To them, if a woman isn’t just pure eye candy/goner bait, it’s woke garbage.

lol these generalizations are true as well, you should look at that one steam "woke content detector" group. a lot of them love hentai and ♥♥♥♥ games but when it comes to a woman being a main character or character option in a combat game or a game in GENERAL thats not for ♥♥♥♥/nsfw, its seen as "DEI inclusionary" (Word for word tag they have on that grp btw) hope this helps!!
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Diposting pertama kali oleh LupisVolk:
And i laugh when these types of people get push back over games with women by going "we didn't say having women equals woke." Like my brother in christ you do.
It's not a problem with women.

Games with women sell well. Just not all of them.

Criticism of a thing, featuring a woman... is not misogyny.

It's just criticism.

!! TRY AGAIN !!

Minecraft is a game that has little to nothing to do with gender or women, yet it sells well (OAT i believe)

+ the criticism is never "of a ThInG" its the criticism of a woman literally existing in the game XD i assume ur one of those anti climate changer woke moids
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Diposting pertama kali oleh Samular Saber:

It really doesn’t matter to the anti-woke whether the woman is well written or not. To them, if a woman isn’t just pure eye candy/goner bait, it’s woke garbage.

Do correct me if I'm wrong, if possible with quotes or examples or whatever, but is that not a major point for people who consider themselves anti-woke, that they're sick of corporations, media, and more, pushing for social justice without doing anything meaningful, such as creating superficial and weak minority characters only so that they can look good for a little bit, or so that people think that they're now morally right?

I feel like woke in general gets such a bad rep because of the white people anyway.. white people tend to want to save and help minorities so they can cry about how theyre actually good people under the guise of wanting to be part of a "crowd". not to say white people cant do good things, but lets be real theyve ruined the idea of being woke entirely.

if anything, being truly "woke" would also be being sick of big corps and media in GENERAL, because their existence and business is unethical. Most "anti-wokers" have a problem with NOT the woke "corporations" or "media" but actually the oppressed people that woke people try to protect such as LGBTQ+, black, asian, Latino, Hispanic and disabled people, It's blatantly obvious because ...

a lot of antiwokers push back on video games, books, media such as fashion (ie modeling or runway shows) saying that we should "stay traditional", not the companies that try to include diversity as a farce so they can claim innocence when woke people come with their pitchforks.

if anything, its woke to be against companies that include diversity just because they wanna seem like a part of the movement. but anti-wokers are known because of their racism and exclusion of minorities.

To be woke is defined as "Progressive or left-wing attitudes or practices, esp. those opposing social injustice or discrimination, that are viewed as doctrinaire, self-righteous, pernicious, or insincere." (OED)
(ofc this definition has gone past BLM activists now.)

To be anti-woke would to oppose being politically and socially aware, against social injustice or discrimination.

its like saying you're misogynistic because women are often targets of discrimination and companies that uplift women are often "disingenuous" when they do so. It doesn't make sense, because why would you be misogynistic if you're mad for the women that have to go through the false patronizing of big companies?

I hope this makes sense.
Diposting pertama kali oleh Novostranger:
"I have an anime avatar and hate normal people"



They glow in the dark but you can hit them with your car.
Diposting pertama kali oleh Falco:
Diposting pertama kali oleh cupid:

very, a lot of people on steam talk about how having a woman as a main character is "woke".

With that in mind, what's your opinion on poorly crafted woman characters?

There was some comment earlier talking about the difference between poorly crafted woman characters simply implemented to meet a quota, versus powerful woman characters.

I bring this up as food for thought

(iirc, they mentioned Ripley from Alien, the original Lara Croft, and a few others)

Poorly crafted women characters are a direct result of misogynistic/racist stuff like

"Oh black woman is super tough and crazy loud and always fights! shes soooooo strong and she will therefore be the only black person and woman in this piece of media, just to make sure we're covering all our bases of being half baked about being inclusive!"

Real powerful women characters are because they start off strong and don't ever bow down to ANYBODY, not just opposing men/hating men as a joke. (I'd like to add, the goddess Bayonetta as an example.)

Bayonetta- a strong, ♥♥♥♥ witch who uses nudity and sexuality within her curses/magic. This isn't really fanservice but almost uplifts her because she's not taking off her clothes and transforming into a lady robot with a thong for a MAN, but because its how she uses her power.
This is a well written woman character, shes the main character and a lot of the other characters are women as well (who are written pretty good too.)

Media doesnt seem to understand that diversity is a spectrum. EX:
BAD MEDIA CAN LOOK LIKE THIS:
- "too much diversity", no white/christian/male characters, but only uses stereotypes / bland stupid writing about how racism is super duper bad!!!! and clearly has no other good messaging or symbolism to convey this message. again: show dont tell, right?
very preachy, stupid and one dimensional stuff like

- too little diversity , everyone is the same shade, taste and looks the same. bland + boring writing about how cool and good traditional family or something else attributed to whiteness is (ex: all white sitcoms. i find them very boring and quite uninteresting, cuz theyre outdated as well.)

GOOD MEDIA LOOKS LIKE THIS:
- too little diversity , BUT talks about relevant issues in a way thats easy to understand thru conflict such as showing how ignorance to discrimination can be bad.. whatever (such as racism, homophobia whatever) but doesnt diminish the fact its a real issue. OR show has nothing to do with diversity/racism/homophobia. just like how not every show needs a black ♥♥♥ polyarmous muslim woman whos actually non binary temporarily disabled, not every show needs a white person whos racist and painted as the bad guy. Discrimination can be perpetuated by different races and people (yes INCLUDING ♥♥♥ PEOPLE) as well. (i dont see that often in shows sometimes, like a black person being racist towards a latino woman or a asian being homophobic or something)

- lots of diversity but includes everyone, yes including white straight people. well written that includes a good story, but doesnt have to focus on one of the -isms or -phobias, can just be a kids show with kids of all races, religions, different families etc.
can also look like this but talking about racism/tolerance in a way thats not just
"white people racist, black people good."

there is always some nuance that some shows forget, like how sometimes black/asian/latino people tend to be racist to other races as well, or how being ♥♥♥ isnt an excuse to be transphobic or racist cuz ur "oppressed too". this nuance isnt needed in media where race doesnt play a critical part or even any part in the story. (ie: Rick and Morty, cast is pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ diverse with aliens and ♥♥♥♥ but racism isnt really a big part of the show so theres not really a need to add an episode on how racism is bad)


+ id also like to add poorly written women characters are (i believe) written purely because a character whos an absolute ass who happens to be a white man or just a man in general has to look good. I often see this in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DOCTOR and COP (jobs where women are underrepresented) are shows where the women are written so poorly that theyre super annoying and piss EVERYONE off, whether theyre a he, she, they or it. it subtly uplifts usually a man in charge and keeps perputating the fact that the "women are super stupid and emotional and should never get jobs keep them in the kitchen!11!!!" mindset is okay because little timmy saw a lady doctor almost kill her patient because she was gossiping in the surgery room or something.
(Good Doctor reference- I hate that other autistic doctor lady. )
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Diposting pertama kali oleh Samular Saber:
Actually it pretty much does represent the overall opinion of the anti-woke group perfectly. To the anti-woke mob if a woman isn’t just goon bait, it woke.

I find it kind of funny that you think people who are woke would have any issue with anime/manga content, considering that anime/manga has a lot of woke content in them.

If anything the anti-woke mob would hate anime if they actually watch it.
Like I’ve seen the anti-woke crowd freaking attack jojo for its lgbt content.

Why do you care if its goon bait, why must it be ugly is the real question.

Entire topic is just the usual gaslighting, if inserting your agenda didn't matter you wouldn't be doing it and wouldn't be complaining that people don't like it in there.

Its telling that in female goon bait media they aren't making the men ugly, revealing as always its just an attack on male entertainment.

Leftist censorship and agenda insertion in anime localization have been known for a long time.

Anime is hardly pure, but its not quite as totally pozd as mainstream western entertainment yet.

This is all stuff you'd know if you had actually followed and watched this stuff.

1. men find anything attractive including dead bodies, children, and other men. why must it be "ugly" is subjective as well, some men might think that lara croft is ugly asf but femboys gve them a hard on
2. if u think an "agenda" is just adding a realistic fat old lady in a game is "WOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" then i fear you have to go deep into the forest and stay there for a bit without internet
3. goon bait = attractive. be real, nobodys looking if something isnt cooking. the whole point of goon bait is for it to be attractive and turn you on, no MAN (probably a man) or woman is looking at ANY PERSON with dirty moldy feet, rotting teeth, straw hair and hair looking like a chimp and thinking- "DAMN! what a hottie."
4. male entertainment is just entertainment, dont be redundant. entertainment always panders to men like a homeless guy in NYC for change (and it always works)
5. nobody said anything has to be ugly for the sake of diversity lol, i think u really have no understanding woke/leftist stuff.

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- unplug that pc/xbox
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