What's (What are) your favorite song(s)?

[cringe]

Title says all. (BTW, What is whispered at the end of Cursive's "Dritwood: A fairytale"?)

[Jaded Fox]

My favorite songs are Cellar Door by Escape the Fate, Vodka by Korpiklaani, Black Cat by Never Shout Never, and The Will by Warmer, just to name a few. And i have no idea about the song you mentioned have you tried looking up the lyrics?

[nar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX6wklGHd7M

[♠ZerØ♠]

Every song off Garbage's self titled album
The Birthday Massacre : Red Star
Machinea Supremacy : Player One
Silversun Pickups : Panic Switch or The Pit.

[kdodds]

Wow, one favorite song? I don't know, but these are up there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM__lPTWThU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUAdgt5Glk0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ey9BHvApWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pEMd1SdkAE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCtdKWWfZG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km4-eKvv3EM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyczwqRD2NI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbjyuDYtAtk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AC41dglnM

[Toeli]

@Kdodds

There are some really good bands in there! Pantera for example..

My music taste is quite special, and some elitists will probably hate me for that, but I´m into metal, and I also appreciate the newer forms, like Hardcore and it´s subgenres..

for example, I´m listening to SLAM, some subgenre, that is coming from the roots of Death Metal, but it´s really hard to listen to it, if you aren´t appreciating the effort:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAQuQKixtc0

I also like Deathcore and Metalcore, but I must admit that 99 from 100 bands showing up in the Metalcore and Deathcore are nothing special and are just palmmuting and chugging the guitars.


What I really like is PROGRESSIVE METAL/ROCK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaHp2Tf49r8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NdXqroDz9c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oasnbzEMV08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2w1s9UBgU0

[kdodds]

Newer stuff I like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZHqD5ZlXMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTT6picaCoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFqw2qEw7hw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfNmc9dvhUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC0DNLDXJW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfwJ-SoYw4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiT4c6KacU8

[kdodds]

FWIW, I can take some growling/screaming, but today's metal, the black/death/whatever they want to call themselves bands that are 100% "demonic voice", frankly, suck. The music is sometimes really good, and then they come in with growling, poorly enunciated crap and I'm like, "okay, I'm outta here". What's really stupid about the whole growl thing is that it's like tatoos, they want to be different, just like everybody else. That's probably why when new metal(ish) bands that come out that actually, you know, sing, I listen to more, even if I, purely instrumentally, prefer something a little "harder".

[Toeli]

Първоначално публикувано от kdodds:

FWIW, I can take some growling/screaming, but today's metal, the black/death/whatever they want to call themselves bands that are 100% "demonic voice", frankly, suck. The music is sometimes really good, and then they come in with growling, poorly enunciated crap and I'm like, "okay, I'm outta here". What's really stupid about the whole growl thing is that it's like tatoos, they want to be different, just like everybody else. That's probably why when new metal(ish) bands that come out that actually, you know, sing, I listen to more, even if I, purely instrumentally, prefer something a little "harder".

Hm, I understand your point.. What I wonder is that growling/screaming is really that hard to take for some people.. It really takes huge effort to reach that level, because I couldn´t do that.

I´m aware of the fact that they are ruining their voice, but that´s none of my business...
For the point of being different, I can´t follow you there. Please explain this a bit more.

[Toeli]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By0LmL9aPG0
For example I think that the vocalist of this band is really good, because he´s able to pull off both, highs and lows without sounding too bad.

Then I take this band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIX2vISe3M

(CC fans will shout at me for that)
I can´t take his voice, it sounds so "forced" and raw that it hurts.

I really like clean singing, as much as you do, but I also like the guttural vocals.'

What I dont like are Vocals from the Grind genre:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-yIZ6GvK3w

I can´t understand a single word... and this is the main problem in those subgenres: (all of them)

I want to be able to understand what people are saying, and not having to search the lyrics.

[kdodds]

Ultimately, Death/Black Metal is the ultimate thumbed nose at conformity. It's "to be different". And yet, they conform to the Death/Black Metal recipe. That's why I like Otep, though I know a lot don't. She has a lot of the same horror-type themes, even if she gets a bit preachy at times with the man-hate, but she can and does actually sing.

[Toeli]

Първоначално публикувано от kdodds:

Ultimately, Death/Black Metal is the ultimate thumbed nose at conformity. It's "to be different". And yet, they conform to the Death/Black Metal recipe. That's why I like Otep, though I know a lot don't. She has a lot of the same horror-type themes, even if she gets a bit preachy at times with the man-hate, but she can and does actually sing.

Hm, again I don´t understand your point.
I´ve never heard of people listening to Death/Black Metal because they want to be different.
For example I think that people who are listening to Progressive Metal are much more different (in terms of conformity) than people who listen to Death Metal, because Prog definetly requires some brain.
Death Metal is something I don´t enjoy (the basic genre) but its subgenre, like Melodic Death or the mentioned genres Deathcore and Slam are something I enjoy.
I enjoy them for sound and not because I have to show people I´m different.

For example I´ve listened to most of the songs that you´ve stated above, and I dare to say that your music taste is more extravagant than mine :).
I also think that you enjoy them for their musical component, not because they are "different".

Please tell me if I misunderstood you.

[kdodds]

Първоначално публикувано от Toeli/Avalanche:

Първоначално публикувано от kdodds:

Ultimately, Death/Black Metal is the ultimate thumbed nose at conformity. It's "to be different". And yet, they conform to the Death/Black Metal recipe. That's why I like Otep, though I know a lot don't. She has a lot of the same horror-type themes, even if she gets a bit preachy at times with the man-hate, but she can and does actually sing.

Hm, again I don´t understand your point.
I´ve never heard of people listening to Death/Black Metal because they want to be different.
For example I think that people who are listening to Progressive Metal are much more different (in terms of conformity) than people who listen to Death Metal, because Prog definetly requires some brain.
Death Metal is something I don´t enjoy (the basic genre) but its subgenre, like Melodic Death or the mentioned genres Deathcore and Slam are something I enjoy.
I enjoy them for sound and not because I have to show people I´m different.

For example I´ve listened to most of the songs that you´ve stated above, and I dare to say that your music taste is more extravagant than mine :).
I also think that you enjoy them for their musical component, not because they are "different".

Please tell me if I misunderstood you.

Okay, let me restate it then. There is nothing "musical" about growling. The enunciation is terrible, the sound itself, when that's all there is, is grating. There are universal sounds to all humanity that are unwelcome. Babies crying and animalistic growling are two of those. And, when the music is good, the growling is just all the worse, not as counterpoint but as cacophony. Further, any one growl sounds pretty much like the next growl, there's no art, no talent behind it and listening to it over and over is an exercise in the most annoying type of monotony I can imagine. As someone who grew up in/with metal, the Black/Death Metal scene grew out of metal, but set itself apart by becoming more and more "demonic" until it became its own "genre" and every new band sounds just like the last band, punctauted with growling. It's also one of the most insular subgenres of metal, whose fans set themselves apart (i.e. are different) than the "posers" who like bands like The Pretty Reckless or Lacuna Coil, as if it's only acceptable to like one type of very similarly sounding music. Maybe not all individuals, for sure, but most of those I've met. So... yes, they like what they like and play what they play because it's "different" just like every other Black/Death Metal band. Psychologically speaking, the "best" thing about it is that, because of the natural human aversion to the sound of growling, it will never, ever become mainstream. So, aficianados are "safe" from becoming conformists.

[Toeli]

Now I get your point.
Growling sounds unpleasant for most people, therefore most people will avoid it. Next thing is, that the Death/Black Metal (I don´t like to use them in the same sentence, there are WORLDS between it) community likes to be treated as if they would be different from the "rest" of the metal community (which imo is partly true). "Posers" are people who claim to like bands that are brandmarked as "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" like Asking Alexandria or Suicide Silence, everything that isn´t Heavy enough.
This is your opinion on that matter, isn´t it? (If I understood right)


Now read mine:
I don´t think that you can consider every band sounding like another.
I can´t talk for Black Metal, because I´m not listening to it. I´m listening to Melodic Death and Deathcore (and again I need to repeat myself, 99% of those bands are unlistenable to me) since 10 years, and yet I need to find a vocalist who sounds the same as another. The Problem with those bands is, that almost everything has been done already. Therefore it is VERY HARD for bands to make something new.
Deathcore will die in the next few years. It did in the early 2000´s and got a revival after a few bands (especially Suicide Silence under Mitch Lucker [RIP]) released their albums. Around 2007 and it got "popular" again and new bands started to spree like fungus, trying to join on the new hype that occured. Many failed... There are only a few bands that managed to get through those 10 years... (Suicide Silence, Whitechapel, Carnifex etc.) I think that they´ll have a hard stand in the future.

Progressive Metal/Rock is a genre I´m really into lately, and I dare to say that the genre is x-times better than Deathmetal itself.
If you take bands like Opeth or Haken, you can see how amazing this music is in comparison to Death Metal.
Death Metal is kinda dark, always sending negative emotion and therefore not being able to be loved. It´s hard to feel attracted to something that is pessimistic in it´s roots.

To take Opeth as an example. Opeth was a Death Metal band, but the creative mind behind it (the vocalist) always wanted to take in some progressive parts. He divided his fanbase into those who liked the new prog way, and those who wanted him to stay at the Death Metal train. He decided to go Prog... Opeth is one of the best Prog bands I know...

I can´t talk for your musical taste ofc, because I don´t know ANYTHING about most bands you stated, but let me say it so...

Death Metal needs to be consumed with a different Mindset. Don´t expect Deathmetal bands to tell you about their family. They´ll tell you about the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up things in the world, straight into your face. That´s what the music is about, dealing with negative emotions.

[timmychr]

Don't Stop me Now - Queen

[Loadie]

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