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Manual car driving questions.
I've never drove a manual car before, but looking at youtube tutorials makes it seem kinda simple. Is driving manual car easy? How would you slow down and brake at a stop or just stop? How to not stall when getting out of a stop? Do I have to switch gears in orders like 1,2,3,4,5 / 5,4,3,2,1. Should e brake be always on when car is not in use?
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WhiteKnight77 の投稿を引用:
First off, vehicles do not have an emergency brake. If you look in any owners manual, you will see it called a parking brake. The whole purpose of it is to keep the vehicle from moving while the vehicle is parked. That it is called a parking brake is due to people trying to use it in an emergency and it not stopping the vehicle and a crash still resulted (often due to improper adjustment to begin with) and manufacturers being sued over such.

A vehicle with a manual transmission should be parked in reverse gear with the parking brake set. That way if the brake fails, there isn't a possibility of the vehicle moving forward. The front wheels should be turned towards the curb also so that it does not roll down a hill (if parked on a hill that is and this applies to vehicles with automatic transmissions too).

You can skip gears going up or down if you so desire. Just ensure that there are enough engine RPMs so the vehicles does not lug for pack of power. When slowing down to a stop, keep the clutch engaged so that the engine slows down the car (downshift to a lower gear) and brake while doing so so you can completely stop only pushing the clutch in when the engine slows down enough otherwise you will stall the engine.
Parking Break, also referred to as hand break or Emergency break.

The vehicle Should be placed in first OR revers depending on the direction of the incline you parked on. Putting the car in reverse when the hill is behind you does nothing. And also rotate the wheel fully to the direction of the curb in case of rolling. When no curb is present, pick a direction, preferably up hill, which will slow and stop the car from damaging or injuring someone.

Shifting gears out of turn is fine, with experience it comes as second nature. Still, shift into neutral when approaching stops and lights. At a stop, you are going to stop. At a light, you can easily shift into first or second to accelerate, and it saves wear on the clutch. Keeping the clutch depressed while moving is only necessary when anticipating a need for acceleration.

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WhiteKnight77 の投稿を引用:
First off, vehicles do not have an emergency brake. If you look in any owners manual, you will see it called a parking brake. The whole purpose of it is to keep the vehicle from moving while the vehicle is parked. That it is called a parking brake is due to people trying to use it in an emergency and it not stopping the vehicle and a crash still resulted (often due to improper adjustment to begin with) and manufacturers being sued over such.

A vehicle with a manual transmission should be parked in reverse gear with the parking brake set. That way if the brake fails, there isn't a possibility of the vehicle moving forward. The front wheels should be turned towards the curb also so that it does not roll down a hill (if parked on a hill that is and this applies to vehicles with automatic transmissions too).

You can skip gears going up or down if you so desire. Just ensure that there are enough engine RPMs so the vehicles does not lug for pack of power. When slowing down to a stop, keep the clutch engaged so that the engine slows down the car (downshift to a lower gear) and brake while doing so so you can completely stop only pushing the clutch in when the engine slows down enough otherwise you will stall the engine.
Parking Break, also referred to as hand break or Emergency break.

The vehicle Should be placed in first OR revers depending on the direction of the incline you parked on. Putting the car in reverse when the hill is behind you does nothing. And also rotate the wheel fully to the direction of the curb in case of rolling. When no curb is present, pick a direction, preferably up hill, which will slow and stop the car from damaging or injuring someone.

Shifting gears out of turn is fine, with experience it comes as second nature. Still, shift into neutral when approaching stops and lights. At a stop, you are going to stop. At a light, you can easily shift into first or second to accelerate, and it saves wear on the clutch. Keeping the clutch depressed while moving is only necessary when anticipating a need for acceleration.
So what do you call that 3rd (could be a 4th) pedal that is foot operated that is not a clutch, brake or gas pedal?

You should also never just push the clutch in when coming to a stop. If one has to suddenly accelerate, they then have to find the right gear and release the clutch before they can give it gas. using engine braking gives you more control of the vehicle.
Driving a car with a standard transmission is easy after years of practice and experience with various cars... For me the hardest part was always dealing with the clutch and 1st gear starting off... I learned on a little stick shift early 90s Ford Ranger pickup and a 1936 Chrysler Business coupe (3 on the tree) and hated how particular the clutch was from a stop and absolutely hated it, but once you master starting from a stop and stopping without stalling, all the shfiting from there is easy. My misconception was from the movies and TV shows that always made it look like you could just slam down the clutch and shift and take off when it was a lot more analog than that. Though, again, once moving, that is pretty much how it works, let of the gas and kick the clutch like it insulted your mother then shift into second and so on once you know where the butter zones are RPM wise. I called it "foot juggling".

But...

As much as I love standard transmissions and being "one with the machine" or whatever people say to justify their personal purchase choice... Volkswagen and Audi DSGs/tiptronic and paddle shift sequentials have spoiled me, especially back when I used to do canyon racing in the mountains around my hometown. So much easier to tap a paddle or slap the shifter and have the gear I want in an instant without even having to lift off the gas or take my hands from the wheel for too long, or at all. Always beat the guys and gals with standard transmissions even if they had power or weight advantages over me.

Though what manuals lack in speed compared to newer transmissions they make up for by being easier and cheaper to own and repair in the long run... So money wise a standard can save a lot in that respect. While standard transmissions are "fun" when out on a midnight mountain run or on a spirited run on track day, they still rely on a persons reaction time, letting off the throttle, and will always be between 1 and 2 seconds slower than modern paddleshift and DSG transmissions in the same car.

And yes, you should always use the parking brake when parking, even on DSG and automatic cars, and even on level surfaces, as it puts less stress on the transmission and keeps the car from rolling away.
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Parking Break, also referred to as hand break or Emergency break.

The vehicle Should be placed in first OR revers depending on the direction of the incline you parked on. Putting the car in reverse when the hill is behind you does nothing. And also rotate the wheel fully to the direction of the curb in case of rolling. When no curb is present, pick a direction, preferably up hill, which will slow and stop the car from damaging or injuring someone.

Shifting gears out of turn is fine, with experience it comes as second nature. Still, shift into neutral when approaching stops and lights. At a stop, you are going to stop. At a light, you can easily shift into first or second to accelerate, and it saves wear on the clutch. Keeping the clutch depressed while moving is only necessary when anticipating a need for acceleration.
So what do you call that 3rd (could be a 4th) pedal that is foot operated that is not a clutch, brake or gas pedal?

You should also never just push the clutch in when coming to a stop. If one has to suddenly accelerate, they then have to find the right gear and release the clutch before they can give it gas. using engine braking gives you more control of the vehicle.
Huh. After 22 years, I think I'll keep driving exactly how I was trained in my offensive and defensive driving classes, and elsewhere.

And I assume the OP is referencing standard Standard vehicle. Don't muddy the waters. And Feel free to suggest alternative stopping methods, but the correct method does not involve holding the clutch in after a few months of practice. If you can't shift gears at the correct speed on the fly freely, then you are not comfortable with the vehicle.
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WhiteKnight77 の投稿を引用:
So what do you call that 3rd (could be a 4th) pedal that is foot operated that is not a clutch, brake or gas pedal?

You should also never just push the clutch in when coming to a stop. If one has to suddenly accelerate, they then have to find the right gear and release the clutch before they can give it gas. using engine braking gives you more control of the vehicle.
Huh. After 22 years, I think I'll keep driving exactly how I was trained in my offensive and defensive driving classes, and elsewhere.

And I assume the OP is referencing standard Standard vehicle. Don't muddy the waters. And Feel free to suggest alternative stopping methods, but the correct method does not involve holding the clutch in after a few months of practice. If you can't shift gears at the correct speed on the fly freely, then you are not comfortable with the vehicle.
After driving 37 years (including being licensed overseas), I know that you should downshift to a lower gear when coming to a stop and is what I told him to do whereas you stated to shift into neutral when approaching a stop. Again, that means you do not have access to power if you need to accelerate in an emergency. Your courses should have taught you that. If in neutral, you have to fumble for a gear with the shifter compared to already being in a gear.

The only place one should be holding the clutch in is once the vehicle is stopped and not moving.
darkangel98s の投稿を引用:
Shifting gears out of turn is fine, with experience it comes as second nature.
Some cars actually make you skip gears. My Mustang forces you to go 1-->4 in certain situations. I think Corvettes have been doing a similar thing for years. It lets them get better mileage to put on the window sticker. :-b
. 2015年7月28日 7時51分 
Chem☢ の投稿を引用:
I've never drove a manual car before, but looking at youtube tutorials makes it seem kinda simple. Is driving manual car easy? How would you slow down and brake at a stop or just stop? How to not stall when getting out of a stop? Do I have to switch gears in orders like 1,2,3,4,5 / 5,4,3,2,1. Should e brake be always on when car is not in use?


it all depends on how quick you're at learning, after 4 driving lessons i was comfortable with using the clutch & gears, when you're wanting to stop hold down the clutch and slowly apply the breaks and then, once the car is stopped apply the handbrake and then release the clutch, to start going again put your foot back on the clutch release the handbrake and slowly take your foot off the clutch pedal till your car starts moving forward then slowly apply acceleration while releasing the clutch, and you dobt have to go up in gears in order but make sure you're at the right rpm, and yes the handbrake does have to be on all the time if you're stopping at a light, if you're only stopping for a little bit before going again you dont have to but just make sure your car doesn't roll into anything lol, how not to stall while getting out of a stop, when you're taking your foot off the clutch don't take it off too fast otherwise you will stall, take your time and ignore people dont try and be fast just because you have people behind you or you will mess up
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darkangel98s の投稿を引用:
Shifting gears out of turn is fine, with experience it comes as second nature.
Some cars actually make you skip gears. My Mustang forces you to go 1-->4 in certain situations. I think Corvettes have been doing a similar thing for years. It lets them get better mileage to put on the window sticker. :-b
Yeah, the 'Vette's six speed manual does have gates that force a different shift pattern depending on how you are driving. If you are accelerating easy, it will force you to miss a gear or 2. If you are getting on the gas hard, you can use all 6 gears instead of 4. I am just glad I never worked on any.
Sleepy の投稿を引用:
I had two sessions in a friend's Jeep and then bought a manual car and drove the DC Beltway every day. Which is a little like having two swimming lessons then swimming across the English Channel.
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