Opinion on KOS and KOSers in non-PvP based survival games

[jeremywyx]

So to get things straigth by KOS i mean "kill on sigth" aka teh practice of playes killing any otehr player for sport/fun while makeing the game far less enjoyable for others. And by KOSer i mean a player who practices KOSing on a regulal basis in a game where its not the main selling point.

So my opinion on KOSers is taht they totaly suck, they allway tryhard and grind for the moast KOS optimal character and then kill teh entire serevr makeing gameplay unbearable and often target others just for fun. and are often moast of the time theyre short-tempered and really toxic. i hate them.


wath is youre opinion?

edit: so there are three tipes of post here:

1. The "Not sure wath sub-genra we are talking aboat, so i´lll post both views" post

- I shoud probbaly specify the sub-genra in the title because complaining aboat the main point of a game being the main point of a game is kinda dumb and were not dumb here (hopefully).

2. The Casual post

- Thease tipes of people come from games which main selling point isnt PvP and which want to have a more casual relaxing and fun expierience without any thungs trying to asert theire imaginary dominace over them. Moast of them respect otehrs and generaly use PvP as a spice rather then the main dish and are more often solid human beings.

3. The KOSer who is defending his/hers actions

- This is not a court room for youre fragile ego to throw a temper tantrum or to be a general a**hole or to defend youre behavior. If you enjoy PvP based games, go for it but trying to asert youre imaginary dominace over someone by calling them a "Childish roleplayer/ Barbie Girl" just isnt gieving tehe rigth vibe and probbaly wont get you many friends or at least get you likeminded friends who probably wont be good friends and wont help you if times get tougth leveing you probbaly regreting youre life choices but that is youre choice and youre problem. We all want to have fun here so respect otehrs and have a nice day.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

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yeah if you leave room for a big skill gap people will get discouraged and leave.

prlly because losing isn't rewarding for some reason. battlepasses, progression, resource grinding...it's easier when there aren't any stakes involved.

and like if your business plan is to just tank games over and over so you can trade stock dips on release hype and blowback, like...you want people to be mad. you want them to leave. it's the guy that throws you out of the pachinko parlour when you've been there 3 days running, whether you got the money or not.

dripping you like a stuck pig is more a 'standard' corporation's style though. they want you on a whale-sized iv, or the biggest one you can afford. they don't want a big skill gap; you might quit one day!

what you state here is the other end of the rod.. where basicly the lvling goes logaritmic slower.. (lvl 1-10 = 1 minute work., lvl 10-20 = 12 hour work, lvl 20-30 = 1 week work.. but lvl 99-100 takes 8 years of 100hr a week grinding...

with powerlvl and abiliies tied strongly to new players.. meaning after 10 years of daily grinding you may at best be 1% stronger than a player than just started a day ago...

that sucks..

look I have no issue with merging all 10 divsions of a single player sport say chess.. into one big league..
even if that means my loose match % goes way up as new player.
for at least each match starts anew.. and it's a fair game.. you loose cause the other just is better.

I love a fair competion even if I get wiped 99.99 of times.. may the best man win.


I HATE it however when I not loose cause the other was better but they got an unfair advantage.. like when I am forced to race on foot vs the owner of a private jetplane..
with all my assets and gains to ever get one myself being robbed away every time they force me to race them.. with no chance to just refuse to race them..

it is as if you only get 1 pawn and they get 100 queens.. at the start of each chessmatch..
and you are forced to play them.. and each time you upgrade to a 2d pawn or get a knight or rook,.., they steal it away.. trowing you back to just your pawn..


those games suck!

i enjoy loosing if the other was just better than me.
I hate loosing if the match was never fair to start with.
heck I even hate winning if the match was never fair.
what good is winning if not only be shear skill?

[permanent name]

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Exactly! KOSers serve a vital economic purpose for the industry, which relies on whales maxing out their parents' credit cards on those package deals!

whales are mroe like sacrifical lambs to maintain appearances.

if the whale isn't invested in the company, isn't on that same drip, then there's no reason for them to be involved in what are basically stock pushes masquerading as games.

besides sacrifice, of course. an appeasement ofo the american dream. the gods heartblood; capital.

[Chalupacabaras]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Chalupacabaras:

Exactly! KOSers serve a vital economic purpose for the industry, which relies on whales maxing out their parents' credit cards on those package deals!

whales are mroe like sacrifical lambs to maintain appearances.

if the whale isn't invested in the company, isn't on that same drip, then there's no reason for them to be involved in what are basically stock pushes masquerading as games.

besides sacrifice, of course. an appeasement ofo the american dream. the gods heartblood; capital.

Worthy sacrifices, if it helps pay the bills so the devs can focus on creating more content for us F2P players to enjoy. An oppai a day keeps the debt collectors away!

[Basho]

i think it is the main thing that makes me completely uninterested in PVP survival games.
if i want PVP i would go with something that is only that, and stick to coop/SP for the survival games.

[Violeta]

If you want the experience of being constantly pk'd in a survival game by npcs that outgear you, you can play

https://store.steampowered.com/app/418030/Subsistence/

Soon as you make a base, the npcs spawn and make thier own bases, and just keep attacking you for no reason. And their bases guard areas you might wanna loot.

[Chalupacabaras]

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If you want the experience of being constantly pk'd in a survival game by npcs that outgear you, you can play

https://store.steampowered.com/app/418030/Subsistence/

Soon as you make a base, the npcs spawn and make thier own bases, and just keep attacking you for no reason. And their bases guard areas you might wanna loot.

Any suggestions that aren't EA?

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

PvP "Survival" game...

Sooooo...

Kill other players on sight or die.

Sounds like if OP doesn't like that, OP should try PvE, Co-Op, or reading a book instead.

[nullpo]

to be fair in survival games unless they're your irl friend you don't know whether they're the murder hobo or the pve only people. So can't blame em.

[Jazz]

The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ audacity to play a pvp game and then complain when people pvp with you.

[tom tomorrow]

It's KOBK. Kill or be killed.

[Kargor]

Początkowo opublikowane przez jeremywyx:

wath is youre opinion?

It's why, back in the time, I only played MMORPGs where playerkilling had to be enabled/agreed on by the victim, that had separate servers with playerkilling enabled, or other stuff like that. Basically, only games that you could play normally.