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nellanella 29 ago. 2024 às 14:33
What do u believe is the best country to live in right now
and please explain why
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mai72 20 set. 2024 às 4:35 
US is awesome if you have money.

My uncle had a $10m net worth. At the end of his life he developed Parkinson's disease. I took care of him, which included taking him to hospitals in his area. He went to the best doctors. One of the things I noticed when taking him to the doctors is the cars outside the building. Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, Audi, even a few lambos. All luxury and very expensive cars. Same for the area he lived in. Expensive and very nice.

The truth is America is amazing if and only if you have the cash.
Última alteração por mai72; 20 set. 2024 às 4:36
Originalmente postado por C4Warr10r:
Still the United States, or at lest half of it. We wouldn't have floods of immigrants were it otherwise. But we are the last bastion for now. This nation cannot fall. If it does, the whole world goes down with it.

The UK also has floods of immigrants as well. So going by your logic we are the best too?
=♥Abbie♥= 20 set. 2024 às 4:48 
It's funny people argue whether USA or any big nations in the world are good, its a known fact that some small nations will have it way better due to the ease of controlling the small amount of territory.
Originalmente postado por mai72:
US is awesome if you have money.

My uncle had a $10m net worth. At the end of his life he developed Parkinson's disease. I took care of him, which included taking him to hospitals in his area. He went to the best doctors. One of the things I noticed when taking him to the doctors is the cars outside the building. Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, Audi, even a few lambos. All luxury and very expensive cars. Same for the area he lived in. Expensive and very nice.

The truth is America is amazing if and only if you have the cash.

Hate to break it to you but you get plenty of those cars in other countries too. Where I live there's loads of Mercedes, BMW's and Audi's (I own one, an RS4). As for the Lexus they are not as popular now in the UK, though you do see them about. There were loads in the early 2000's though (my dad had one).

Go to the cities (especially London) and you'll see plenty of Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, Rolls Royce's, Bentleys, etc..... I even saw a Bugatti Veyron a couple of months back.

You can't judge a country solely on it's cars...... You also don't have to be minted to have a good life.
Meove 20 set. 2024 às 5:09 
Originalmente postado por Ramenandspagghetti:
Originalmente postado por Meove:
Malaysia

(good) food, food everywhere. even rural area
I have a question though, what about job availability and earnings? Would it be hard to import things from another country due to currency issues or not?
depends on state where you live. If you live at rural area such as Kelantan, Perak, agriculture is best option.

like me, im work as game dev since im work at city Kuala Lumpur. Digital work are high demand now in city. the earning is, i can say a lot since you do business with another country like China, Japan, Hungary, Singapore, etc

So far my experience import item from another country have no problem. Delivery fee also in reasonable price. Unless you import illegal thing like weapon, drug, thats might problem
dallas 20 set. 2024 às 5:15 
Originalmente postado por Ramenandspagghetti:
Originalmente postado por Meove:
Malaysia

(good) food, food everywhere. even rural area
I have a question though, what about job availability and earnings? Would it be hard to import things from another country due to currency issues or not?
basic salary is 1500$
Username 20 set. 2024 às 5:21 
There is no "best country." You can find pockets of freedom everywhere in the world. Those pockets of freedom tend to exist far away from any police or military.
Antarctica will be my pick of the day. :csd2smile:
=♥Abbie♥= 20 set. 2024 às 6:59 
Originalmente postado por Username:
There is no "best country." You can find pockets of freedom everywhere in the world. Those pockets of freedom tend to exist far away from any police or military.
That's funny to say because Netherlands rural areas have more police activity than the average American rural neighbourhood does.
It's all about the size of the country, of course if you are in a vast country like the USA thats 9,840,000 square km you might consider yourself unlucky to live in "such a craphole" but for countries like the netherlands, Switzerland, Slovakia, Czech Republic life is way better, you get paid way more than in the US (2240€ per month for working on a plantation vs 2000$ per month working in an office)
The USA has an extensive intelligence and police apparatus while the netherlands police is slightly less funded, yet the USA has more danger of attacks by extremists and extremely violent crime issues all the while the Netherlands chills and only has attacks/violence in huge cities that often have too little police.
Última alteração por =♥Abbie♥=; 20 set. 2024 às 7:00
crunchyfrog 21 set. 2024 às 10:34 
Originalmente postado por Username:
There is no "best country." You can find pockets of freedom everywhere in the world. Those pockets of freedom tend to exist far away from any police or military.
And that very much assumes you deem freedom as the prime importance. And what you even mean by freedom.

For example, whenever you see people on arrest cams or in court in the US, a surprisingly high number of people don't seem to understand their rights - they understand what they THINK are their rights and often get it completely wrong.

But anyway, I'd token for a larger swath of people societal wealth, health and happiness are paramount.

That's precisely why there's a list that measures this and why countries like Finland regularly top it.
=♥Abbie♥= 21 set. 2024 às 10:42 
Originalmente postado por crunchyfrog:
Originalmente postado por Username:
There is no "best country." You can find pockets of freedom everywhere in the world. Those pockets of freedom tend to exist far away from any police or military.
And that very much assumes you deem freedom as the prime importance. And what you even mean by freedom.

For example, whenever you see people on arrest cams or in court in the US, a surprisingly high number of people don't seem to understand their rights - they understand what they THINK are their rights and often get it completely wrong.

But anyway, I'd token for a larger swath of people societal wealth, health and happiness are paramount.

That's precisely why there's a list that measures this and why countries like Finland regularly top it.

It's funny because other studies and cross examinations of such rankings show that it is infact biased most of the time and based on who could invest most money in the shortest amount of time into the specific "sources".

The Nordics, neither Western, Central and Eastern European countries were on top for a long time now, North America and Central America hasn't either - which is followed by most of North and East Asia.
What is funny is in these studies Japan is ranked highly when in reality its a country filled with depressed people, just like Taiwan (Taiwan having a 1 legitimate player to 2 cheaters ratio aswell as a 70% toaster bath per person ratio already shows alot).
Not to mention these ""studies"" do not take peoples opinions into account, they only take what the government REPORTS being the ""case"" in their territory, the actual happiest countries by tested participant turn out to be nations like Australia, New Zealand, the Phillipines, Thailand, Vietnam and Nepal - Hell even Mongolia which is rated very highly for both testosterone in men aswell as "overall citizen happiness score" is a country full of depressed people.
bAd a!m 21 set. 2024 às 10:47 
Call me mad, but North Korea.

It has certain weak points, but there's a few positive ones that outweigh the dark, grim, reality.
crunchyfrog 21 set. 2024 às 10:50 
Originalmente postado por Ramenandspagghetti:
Originalmente postado por crunchyfrog:
And that very much assumes you deem freedom as the prime importance. And what you even mean by freedom.

For example, whenever you see people on arrest cams or in court in the US, a surprisingly high number of people don't seem to understand their rights - they understand what they THINK are their rights and often get it completely wrong.

But anyway, I'd token for a larger swath of people societal wealth, health and happiness are paramount.

That's precisely why there's a list that measures this and why countries like Finland regularly top it.

It's funny because other studies and cross examinations of such rankings show that it is infact biased most of the time and based on who could invest most money in the shortest amount of time into the specific "sources".

The Nordics, neither Western, Central and Eastern European countries were on top for a long time now, North America and Central America hasn't either - which is followed by most of North and East Asia.
What is funny is in these studies Japan is ranked highly when in reality its a country filled with depressed people, just like Taiwan (Taiwan having a 1 legitimate player to 2 cheaters ratio aswell as a 70% toaster bath per person ratio already shows alot).
Not to mention these ""studies"" do not take peoples opinions into account, they only take what the government REPORTS being the ""case"" in their territory, the actual happiest countries by tested participant turn out to be nations like Australia, New Zealand, the Phillipines, Thailand, Vietnam and Nepal - Hell even Mongolia which is rated very highly for both testosterone in men aswell as "overall citizen happiness score" is a country full of depressed people.

No that's because you're misunderstanding the metrics.

Using Japan, sure it's got a lot of depressed people and there's stark reasons for that which are societal. But that's NOT the same metric as societal wealth and health. Anyone who tells you they're the same is lying or simply doesn't understand.

Societal wealth and heatlh reflects how comfortably and happily you can live within the society and it reflects things like how much you earn versus the cost of lving, taxes and so on versus what security and social security safety nets there are.

it does NOT reflect things like whether people are depressed due to societal things. In Japans case it's well documented that a large reason why this is the case is because of their corporate culture of working ridiculous hours, and having little time for family life. There is a bit of a change going on but we'll see how that bears out.

So in short, no that's not how it works.

And for example, you will see societal wealth and health do far better in countries which have decent socialisitic safety nets. Like here in Britain, while we have a range of problems and while previous government has tried to wreck our health service the fact we have totally free NHS has a BIG effect on this metric.

Likewise things like paid paternity and maternity leave, statutory sick pay and other things.
De Hollandse Ezel 21 set. 2024 às 11:06 
as a christian, white european"
what defines good?

**a nation with a mayority white & christian (reformed christian) population.
**a nation with laws that depict that christianity.. so non of the woke/sjw/lgbtq stuff that has been added to my own nation the last decades.
**a nation with a strong social net..
**a nation with very strong freedom of expression
**a nation that is still one culture, one language, one faith, and thus very rejectant of immigrants and has a low percentage of immigrants and those they do have are very well assymilated.
**a nation where woman still are tradtional/marriage and kids is easely to obtain
**a nation with a birthrate thats still well above 2.1
**a nation where a house is affordable.. with the wages jobs give
**a nation where jobs are plentyfull and fairly paid
-> a much lower standard of living is totally acceptable as long as the above is covered..
as in a centiry back most dutch only owned 2 sets of clothing in their entire life.. and 1 set of linnen & china.. and never could afford to leave their birthvillage.. yet somehow still could get a large house and marry before they were 20....

I would be hard pressed to think a nation that fits all that.
perhaps joining the amish or mennonites might qualify??

if these above are the defining qualities for "best nation" well what would be than the best?
Última alteração por De Hollandse Ezel; 21 set. 2024 às 11:07
crunchyfrog 21 set. 2024 às 15:47 
Originalmente postado por De Hollandse Ezel:
as a christian, white european"
what defines good?

**a nation with a mayority white & christian (reformed christian) population.
**a nation with laws that depict that christianity.. so non of the woke/sjw/lgbtq stuff that has been added to my own nation the last decades.
**a nation with a strong social net..
**a nation with very strong freedom of expression
**a nation that is still one culture, one language, one faith, and thus very rejectant of immigrants and has a low percentage of immigrants and those they do have are very well assymilated.
**a nation where woman still are tradtional/marriage and kids is easely to obtain
**a nation with a birthrate thats still well above 2.1
**a nation where a house is affordable.. with the wages jobs give
**a nation where jobs are plentyfull and fairly paid
-> a much lower standard of living is totally acceptable as long as the above is covered..
as in a centiry back most dutch only owned 2 sets of clothing in their entire life.. and 1 set of linnen & china.. and never could afford to leave their birthvillage.. yet somehow still could get a large house and marry before they were 20....

I would be hard pressed to think a nation that fits all that.
perhaps joining the amish or mennonites might qualify??

if these above are the defining qualities for "best nation" well what would be than the best?

I would add one small point - religiosity may end up salving your conscuience but empirically they don't lend to the happiest societies.

Those that are not religious tend to be the leaders.
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