Frieren Episode 10 (Spoilers Up Till End of episode 10)

[BlazeTheCatGF]

I finished watching episode 10 of Frieren -If you know what that is- and so I observed that Frieren sure does have prejudiced against Demons.

Are there any "good" Demons in this series?

I really like the show but I also kinda hate the idea of lumping any individual into the mix. I think a lot of stereotypes are either very accurate or very stupid but even in the ones that are very accurate there are some people/creatures that aren't applicable.

I didn't think that dragon needed to be killed for an example. It probably could have been tamed or sent away.

I thought the Aura death was probably the most brutal... I guess it's because she was dealt the very quickly. I'm not sure if it was mercy or merciless to kill her but saying "Kill Yourself" and making her literally end her own life was kinda pretty brutal. I would say it was arguably heartless.

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I personally hate this world but I wouldn't end my own life. I would be fine if this world or someone/something ended my fie at some point... I guess... but I personally wouldn't end my life despite how much I dislike other humans the the way this world is.

Even if you didn't click on here to read about me I will boast that I am much different than most humans even though I think and guess that I am a human... probably...

...

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So anyways I was hoping there would be a 'good" demon or one that was different... Even if there isn't in the cannon I can just go on fanfiction later and read if there.

I would totally like to talk about this more with people.

IF there would be a better spot to talk about this just understand I am a loser with no other outlet or knowledge of where to talk to people. I am epicly lonely and crave a stimulating conversation. I also understand nothing of real value seems to ever happen so maybe you'll just post some mean and cruel stuff or - even worse - not get a response at all.

IF you would like to discuss this with me please comment and I will reply if you actually did put in effort and seem to want a conversation.

I'll be catching up until episode 28 either tonight or tomorrow as it'll only take me 14 hours right?

[Uncle Sam]

Good demons? Hahaha, no.
Could be there some neutral demon in the middle of nowhere, far away from everyone else and enjoying solitude? Probably.

Overall demons in that Anime are on the same level or a bit higher in regards to being ruthless and selfish, some degree of psychopathy or sociopathy, etc, when compared to the average human.

[sfnhltb]

Frieren doesn't have prejudice against demons, she has experience of them, over a very long lifetime. Other people in the story with (far, far) less experience with demons take your view that maybe this time they aren't trying to trick the non-demons and kill them all, and are genuinely trying to be nice and friendly, and are willing to risk their own survival purely on the hope the demons in question will play nice this time (unlike every previous time).

In Frieren's lore Demons are just a type of monster that evolved basic speech patterns, such as calling out for help, to lure in prey (i.e. humans and other non-monster sentient species), or calling out "mother" to gain mercy so they can then get a second chance to defeat their prey once their guard is down, with the most obvious analogy being mimics that use a different way of luring in prey.

They are not really evil, in the same way monsters are not really evil, they are just following their instincts to defeat/eat their prey. As above they often don't even understand the semantic meanings of the words they are using, just over thousands of years they have built up ever more complex ways of getting their prey to lower their guard, particularly the eldest and most powerful ones. Expecting them to be "good" would be like expecting a mimic not to try to eat Frieren, they aren't some multifaceted sentient race with morals, they are just a force of nature that is opposed to non-monsters that happen to be able to speak due to adaptation of their species to make them better at defeating their prey.

[BlazeTheCatGF]

引用自 sfnhltb：

Frieren doesn't have prejudice against demons, she has experience of them, over a very long lifetime. Other people in the story with (far, far) less experience with demons take your view that maybe this time they aren't trying to trick the non-demons and kill them all, and are genuinely trying to be nice and friendly, and are willing to risk their own survival purely on the hope the demons in question will play nice this time (unlike every previous time).

In Frieren's lore Demons are just a type of monster that evolved basic speech patterns, such as calling out for help, to lure in prey (i.e. humans and other non-monster sentient species), or calling out "mother" to gain mercy so they can then get a second chance to defeat their prey once their guard is down, with the most obvious analogy being mimics that use a different way of luring in prey.

They are not really evil, in the same way monsters are not really evil, they are just following their instincts to defeat/eat their prey. As above they often don't even understand the semantic meanings of the words they are using, just over thousands of years they have built up ever more complex ways of getting their prey to lower their guard, particularly the eldest and most powerful ones. Expecting them to be "good" would be like expecting a mimic not to try to eat Frieren, they aren't some multifaceted sentient race with morals, they are just a force of nature that is opposed to non-monsters that happen to be able to speak due to adaptation of their species to make them better at defeating their prey.

You have given me a very solid and good reply.

Let's say that there was a "Good" Demon.l even if that is l not possible assume for this hypothetical that it is: Would Frieren still kill the Demon or would there be any possibility of her recognizing that even if it's a 1 in a billion that it's different?

[The nameless Gamer]

引用自 BlazeTheCatGF：

Let's say that there was a "Good" Demon.l even if that is l not possible assume for this hypothetical that it is: Would Frieren still kill the Demon or would there be any possibility of her recognizing that even if it's a 1 in a billion that it's different?

Hard to tell. She has had way too many experiences with Demons feigning good will to be convinced by a few displays of genuine good will. If anything, she'd probably be a lot more suspicious and think "What is that demon planning to do once we eventually let our guard down around them?" Frieren would probably see acts of good will by demons as a ruse. She would probably not draw first blood, but she'd be watching the demon closely, looking for hints of treachery.

[BlazeTheCatGF]

引用自 The nameless Commander：

引用自 BlazeTheCatGF：

Let's say that there was a "Good" Demon.l even if that is l not possible assume for this hypothetical that it is: Would Frieren still kill the Demon or would there be any possibility of her recognizing that even if it's a 1 in a billion that it's different?

Hard to tell. She has had way too many experiences with Demons feigning good will to be convinced by a few displays of genuine good will. If anything, she'd probably be a lot more suspicious and think "What is that demon planning to do once we eventually let our guard down around them?" Frieren would probably see acts of good will by demons as a ruse. She would probably not draw first blood, but she'd be watching the demon closely, looking for hints of treachery.

I personally am still always getting my feelings hurt by animals running away from me as if I intended on hurting them...

... I'm sure my words probably hurt feelings of people on here as well and that isn't my intention though...

I'm pretty stupid but I actually have a rather high IQ and I'm pretty old for a human on this website at least
... I think I'm completely different than most people but maybe I'm completely the same I don't know...

When I was younger I used to torture snails and ants and insects and I feel completely remorseful for these actions. If I ever had to be held accountable for that I would be okay with it... Many humans still kill insects with no care at all though.

These days I live in my car (hey that might let you know whose alternative account this is even but....) and my life has been pretty pathetic in some ways. The last 10 years of my life have had absolutely no memorable aspects at all. At this point I'm just waiting to die of old age or a disease or for someone to kill me or something...

... But I don't hurt animals or insects and my living situation also allows for me to not really have infestations that need to be dealt with like bugs (I know apartments can have cockroach, ant and other insects or rodents but so far my car has been completely free of them as far as I am aware...

... As a human we eat animals and plants which I would think would be pretty bad. If I had to personally kill an animal I think I would rather just allow myself to die of hunger or something...

...I don't trust people at all... But I'm an extremely caring and emotional person despite kinda despising most humans... So I could potentially trust someone if they were the right one... I don't care so much about species, gender, race, etc. I care about personality and content of character...

... I think humans and animals can be receptive and adaptive (some more than others) and so I would think the same could potentially be done with Demons ...

... Let's say a Demon baby was raised by a genuinely good person and taught all these good morals and such things... Then I think there would be a chance just like normal babies or pets or even wild animals that can adapt to these things (some more than others).

... I personally feel most people are awful but I can probably find decent people at some points...

...Even the most evil of the evil might be able to be redeemed if they have to be reincarnated a million times to learn the right path...

... Had this soul of the creature been places in another species or gender or race; been in a different time in history, a different location, a different class or prestige or wealth, surrounded by different people, etc... Would they really turn out the same person with all this?

So I practice forgiveness (even if it takes a while), and the idea that anyone could be redeemed if given the correct environments.

[BlazeTheCatGF]

引用自 Uncle Sam：

Good demons? Hahaha, no.
Could be there some neutral demon in the middle of nowhere, far away from everyone else and enjoying solitude? Probably. :lunar2020thinkingtiger:

Overall demons in that Anime are on the same level or a bit higher in regards to being ruthless and selfish, some degree of psychopathy or sociopathy, etc, when compared to the average human.

Can you define what the:

A. Average Human In 2024 "Real Life" World

VS

B. Average Human In "Frieren" World

Also how would you think things would be like if these Demons came to our "Real Life" World?

[BlazeTheCatGF]

引用自 sfnhltb：

Frieren doesn't have prejudice against demons, she has experience of them, over a very long lifetime. Other people in the story with (far, far) less experience with demons take your view that maybe this time they aren't trying to trick the non-demons and kill them all, and are genuinely trying to be nice and friendly, and are willing to risk their own survival purely on the hope the demons in question will play nice this time (unlike every previous time).

In Frieren's lore Demons are just a type of monster that evolved basic speech patterns, such as calling out for help, to lure in prey (i.e. humans and other non-monster sentient species), or calling out "mother" to gain mercy so they can then get a second chance to defeat their prey once their guard is down, with the most obvious analogy being mimics that use a different way of luring in prey.

They are not really evil, in the same way monsters are not really evil, they are just following their instincts to defeat/eat their prey. As above they often don't even understand the semantic meanings of the words they are using, just over thousands of years they have built up ever more complex ways of getting their prey to lower their guard, particularly the eldest and most powerful ones. Expecting them to be "good" would be like expecting a mimic not to try to eat Frieren, they aren't some multifaceted sentient race with morals, they are just a force of nature that is opposed to non-monsters that happen to be able to speak due to adaptation of their species to make them better at defeating their prey.

I've finally watched all 28 episodes and I can say I like it a lot.

Also didn't really show many more demons that looked human (Not that it matters I just don't know if the animals like bird looking things or dog looking things count as demons or not) so I guess maybe they appear in season 2?

Meanwhile I'm going to look up AURA redemption and AURA reincarnated series because I wanted to see more about her instead of a display of Frieren being Da Beast or whatever... And you better recognize that I am so cool for calling her "Da Beast". Yeah... I'm impressive right?