Should Europe shuffle its population about?

[Hobbit XIII]

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Some countries are very divided about what they want to be. Some want to be EU, some want to be Russian bloc and some want to ignore it all and hope the world ignores them / takes money from anybody .

My solution :
Switch the populations about.
People who want to be with Russia send them to countries that will be allocated 'Pro Russia' the people who want EU, send them to the countries allocated EU, and people who who want to be out of EU but not with Russia put them in a country allocated for that too.

Just my genius at work.
What is your view?

[Ulfrinn]

Originally posted by Corvus XIII:

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Sounds like pure intolerance to want to purge people from your country because they don't align with your beliefs and you're sick and tired of them having a say in your "democracy."

As usual you have not looked at any voting habits of people and some countries are fractured in regards to budgets and trading policies.

Yeah, shocker, not everyone thinks the same or has the same interests just because they live within the same borders. I don't give a rat's ass about "voting habits." That's the whole point of having a vote to begin with.

[Hobbit XIII]

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Originally posted by Corvus XIII:

As usual you have not looked at any voting habits of people and some countries are fractured in regards to budgets and trading policies.

Yeah, shocker, not everyone thinks the same or has the same interests just because they live within the same borders. I don't give a rat's ass about "voting habits." That's the whole point of having a vote to begin with.

you do not understand.
so I will leave it at that.

[xDDD]

Originally posted by crunchyfrog:

Originally posted by xDDD:

Can't EU people freely travel/move throughout the EU or something?
Nothing is stopping people from doing this. They just don't want to.
French want to live in France, Germans want to live in Germany, Swampgermans want to live in the Neatherlands, and so on.

Yup you have the freedom to move, but you don't have the freedom to just up and live in another country.

It's to do with PASSAGE, much as the US amendment that gives right to travel. You won't be harrassed between states. Eu members don't need to provide passpports - any official ID is enough.

Do you not? I've always heard it is super easy for EU citizens to move between EU countries. Not as easy as between US states for sure, but still FAAAAAR easier than if an American tried to move to the EU (very difficult without a ton of money or a niche skill + luck).

[Ulfrinn]

Originally posted by Corvus XIII:

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Yeah, shocker, not everyone thinks the same or has the same interests just because they live within the same borders. I don't give a rat's ass about "voting habits." That's the whole point of having a vote to begin with.

you do not understand.
so I will leave it at that.

I understand a hell of a lot better than you do, given you're the one who suggested such an intolerant/bigoted concept. Other places have tried it before. Segregation, apartheid. Moving people you don't like somewhere else isn't a new genius concept that you specifically just managed to think up.

[KRAZY 2 K00L ZKARY ZNIPPA GUY]

How do we turn them into cards if we want to shuffle them though?

[Hobbit XIII]

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Originally posted by Corvus XIII:

you do not understand.
so I will leave it at that.

I understand a hell of a lot better than you do, given you're the one who suggested such an intolerant/bigoted concept. Other places have tried it before. Segregation, apartheid. Moving people you don't like somewhere else isn't a new genius concept that you specifically just managed to think up.

You do not understand and I do not have the time to go through it with you in a positive way.

[Eidolon]

Originally posted by Corvus XIII:

Originally posted by Eidolon:

I don't think it sets a good precedent to remove people from your country because of their political views.

It is not about removing people or forcing people.

Well it certainly sounds that way. What is it about then?

[Hobbit XIII]

Originally posted by Eidolon:

Originally posted by Corvus XIII:

It is not about removing people or forcing people.

Well it certainly sounds that way. What is it about then?

due to the many conflicted interests of people throughout Europe would it be a good idea if in a hypothetical alternate world if Europe had a reshuffle based on its views of the variables mentioned ie Pro Eu, Pro independent, Pro Russian Bloc.

One reason for this is so people who wanted the EU trading rules and work regulations would have the government they wanted rather than say 48% against EU and 52% pro EU. That is 48% of people who wouild not be putting their money where they would want it to be.

- back to star wars bf2.

[Eidolon]

Originally posted by Corvus XIII:

Originally posted by Eidolon:

Well it certainly sounds that way. What is it about then?

due to the many conflicted interests of people throughout Europe would it be a good idea if in a hypothetical alternate world if Europe had a reshuffle based on its views of the variables mentioned ie Pro Eu, Pro independent, Pro Russian Bloc.

One reason for this is so people who wanted the EU trading rules and work regulations would have the government they wanted rather than say 48% against EU and 52% pro EU. That is 48% of people who wouild not be putting their money where they would want it to be.

- back to star wars bf2.

And how would you propose going about this shuffle?

[kingjames488]

yes... lets put all the french people in england, all the english people in spain, and all the spanish people in france.

that'll go over well.

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by kingjames488:

yes... lets put all the french people in england, all the english people in spain, and all the spanish people in france.

that'll go over well.

ah well go to Ibiza in the summer and you'l see all the absolute best of England there!

[kingjames488]

Originally posted by crunchyfrog:

Originally posted by kingjames488:

yes... lets put all the french people in england, all the english people in spain, and all the spanish people in france.

that'll go over well.

ah well go to Ibiza in the summer and you'l see all the absolute best of England there!

where in the middle east is that?

[Netaris]

Originally posted by Corvus XIII:

Some countries are very divided about what they want to be. Some want to be EU, some want to be Russian bloc and some want to ignore it all and hope the world ignores them / takes money from anybody .

My solution :
Switch the populations about.
People who want to be with Russia send them to countries that will be allocated 'Pro Russia' the people who want EU, send them to the countries allocated EU, and people who who want to be out of EU but not with Russia put them in a country allocated for that too.

Just my genius at work.
What is your view?

And what for the peoples who want neither of it and just want to rebuild their country without the EU to mess everything up ?

[Nine-ball]

That's already happening, just with floods of migrants to support the Left-wing establishment, and ultimately, the Far Left. That's just going to cause more of what your solution would, utter chaos. You can't just throw people and groups about willy-nilly.

If the EU or the Russian bloc would ever accept it, the ideal solution would be the American Constitutional one. Just decentralize government power, invest what remains in limited states, and let people have the freedom to move. As it is, even with constant Communist agitation burning down half of America, the other half is still a great place to live. Same could apply to Europe.

But I already know they're NEVER going to do that, because Europe chose Leftism a long time ago. Britain learned this, much to its dismay, after Brexit. The Torries are virtually the same as Labour, and they are vested political interests. It'd be great if the people had a mens to throw them out, but they don't, because they gave up that right centuries ago, and gave up their guns more recently.

Every nation that chooses this kind of abuse just gets stuck with it until it collapses. I don't care how smart you are, or how nuanced your intended system is, or how moral it is, or anything else. When you give power to government, which is just a group of notably ungoverned people, they will never willingly give that power back. If even one individual tries, like Trump has in very limited capacity, ot Javier Miliei has in Argentina, the political establishment is out for their blood. They cannot any dissent.

Indeed, the ONE thing I agree with Marxists and their ilk on is that there is an oppressor class.But it's not capitalists, or all of human society, it's just government.

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by Netaris:

Originally posted by Corvus XIII:

Some countries are very divided about what they want to be. Some want to be EU, some want to be Russian bloc and some want to ignore it all and hope the world ignores them / takes money from anybody .

My solution :
Switch the populations about.
People who want to be with Russia send them to countries that will be allocated 'Pro Russia' the people who want EU, send them to the countries allocated EU, and people who who want to be out of EU but not with Russia put them in a country allocated for that too.

Just my genius at work.
What is your view?

And what for the peoples who want neither of it and just want to rebuild their country without the EU to mess everything up ?

Simple they get to vote accordingly.