I hate the Indie gaming community.

[Tsar Butterfly]

Not to say there aren't good indie games out there, but we can't even go one year anymore without some flavor of the season indie game getting oversaturated all over the Internet by a bunch of people who are "fans" of the game even though they haven't even played it yet.

The current example is Undertale. People are saying that that game should've won GOTY, and not just indie game GOTY, but that it should've been competing with and beating the Witcher III, MGS V, FO4, and Bloodbourne, when in reality Undertale is a decent throwback to Earthbound with cringy meme humor meant to appeal to the teenage girls who shop at Hot Topic and are always begging their parents to get them tickets to Panic at the Disco, most of whom just watched some washed out LP'er on YouTube play through the game while overexaggerating how good it is.

Really just needed to blow off some steam (pun not intended). I wouldn't take this thread too seriously but I do want to know if anyone feels the same way.

[TwinEdgedBastard]

Well you know people. They like to suck ♥♥♥♥ for nothing.

[PIO]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Sharp Cane:

Not to say there aren't good indie games out there, but we can't even go one year anymore without some flavor of the season indie game getting oversaturated all over the Internet by a bunch of people who are "fans" of the game even though they haven't even played it yet.

The current example is Undertale. People are saying that that game should've won GOTY, and not just indie game GOTY, but that it should've been competing with and beating the Witcher III, MGS V, FO4, and Bloodbourne, when in reality Undertale is a decent throwback to Earthbound with cringy meme humor meant to appeal to the teenage girls who shop at Hot Topic and are always begging their parents to get them tickets to Panic at the Disco, most of whom just watched some washed out LP'er on YouTube play through the game while overexaggerating how good it is.

Really just needed to blow off some steam (pun not intended). I wouldn't take this thread too seriously but I do want to know if anyone feels the same way.

Well, the best Indie games were during the first wave. AAA games have stepped up a bit, and Indie games are saturating the market. However, I can't quite make a comment on Undertale as I haven't played it yet. I have friends that enjoy it, but it does seem odd that it should better than Fallout 4 or Bloodbourne. However, the biggest arguement against Bloodbourne is that it was a PS4 exclusive and not cross-platform.

[Tsar Butterfly]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Gedalya_InDev:

I can't quite make a comment on Undertale as I haven't played it yet.

It isn't the kind of game you need to play to have an opinion on. It's 100% story-based with the gameplay just being "OMGF STUFF FLYIN AT JOO" and puzzles. Watching a Let's Play is basically getting the same experience as paying for it and playing it. I have friends who say Undertale is the best game this year (granted they're not really gamers but that's kind of the problem) even though they haven't played it yet. It pisses me off to no end, and they get all offended and defensive of their precious skeletons whenever I try to point out a flaw in it.

[Mod Sloth]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Sharp Cane:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Gedalya_InDev:

I can't quite make a comment on Undertale as I haven't played it yet.

It isn't the kind of game you need to play to have an opinion on. It's 100% story-based with the gameplay just being "OMGF STUFF FLYIN AT JOO" and puzzles. Watching a Let's Play is basically getting the same experience as paying for it and playing it. I have friends who say Undertale is the best game this year (granted they're not really gamers but that's kind of the problem) even though they haven't played it yet. It pisses me off to no end, and they get all offended and defensive of their precious skeletons whenever I try to point out a flaw in it.

Sooo.... what you're saying is that your problem isn't so much with the game as it is with your casual-gamer friends who think highly of it?

[Naedmi]

Tux will come to this thread eventually to talk about how bad AAA games are compared to Indie.

Just you wait.


I don't really care much about those trendy indie games, most of them are just God awful without player made content, they're also full of fanboys who like to just force that one world into another with half assed mods and pictures.

I only start to care at around that point when things are getting shoved down my throat, things I can no longer ignore because they're all over another game.

[Shard]

Being unbiased.
Most indle games are bad anyway, indle games have mostly bad graphics (I don't see why there's the cult for that). Sure you can call me a spoiled kids, but those games have graphics like from 1980s.
Why does Undertale deserve all these hype? I wonder, with these bad graphics, developers can develope a game way more easier and without using much resources.

[Shard]

Many of them such as "shower with dad" should be made into a flash game. A quick repetitive joke game shouldn't be required to purchased.
Those "best game ever mlg explosive 11/10 would do again" are kind of reason why these games got good review.

[Vincent]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ProdigyGamer™:

Being unbiased.
Most indle games are bad anyway, indle games have mostly bad graphics (I don't see why there's the cult for that). Sure you can call me a spoiled kids, but those games have graphics like from 1980s.
Why does Undertale deserve all these hype? I wonder, with these bad graphics, developers can develope a game way more easier and without using much resources.

Because all the undertale fans are 10 year olds.

[PIO]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Two Punch Man:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ProdigyGamer™:

Being unbiased.
Most indle games are bad anyway, indle games have mostly bad graphics (I don't see why there's the cult for that). Sure you can call me a spoiled kids, but those games have graphics like from 1980s.
Why does Undertale deserve all these hype? I wonder, with these bad graphics, developers can develope a game way more easier and without using much resources.

Because all the undertale fans are 10 year olds.

Plus, that's a great example of being unbiased. lol

[Thqwib]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ProdigyGamer™:

graphics graphics graphics

Jeez, dude.

I still haven't played Undertale, but it really doesn't look like it has much in the way of fun gameplay. Rather watch a playthrough and save dinero.

[Gus the Crocodile]

Imagine hating people because they liked a videogame more than you did. That would be pretty weird.

[PIO]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Gus the Crocodile:

Imagine hating people because they liked a videogame more than you did. That would be pretty weird.

A little too weird for my tastes.

[Datlossit (Inactive, check bio)]

Judging a game by it's graphic's simply doesn't work, look at Star Wars: Battlefront as an example. Terrible repetitive gameplay along with balance issues imo and many others opinions. I will still stand by my opinion that what makes a game good is gameplay, story, or both.

This is the problem the way i see it, when something gets popular, it's likely gonna get bashed on quickly and hard. Minecraft suffers from this, and even older games like Ocarina of Time, despite the latter not being an indle game.

Also, keep in mind it's opinion. If you hate the indle community and Undertale. That's fine, no ones stopping you, that's your own opinion. I can understand you getting sick of people constantly telling you a game that's really good, but it doesn't fit your gaming style or alike.

Knowing the internet though nowdays, keeping opinions can be difficult. The internet can't accept keeping their own opinions and tries to bash them at others, leading to arguments or threat fights. I admit i did such a thing in the past, but i don't anymore.

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Sharp Cane:

Not to say there aren't good indie games out there, but we can't even go one year anymore without some flavor of the season indie game getting oversaturated all over the Internet by a bunch of people who are "fans" of the game even though they haven't even played it yet.

The current example is Undertale. People are saying that that game should've won GOTY, and not just indie game GOTY, but that it should've been competing with and beating the Witcher III, MGS V, FO4, and Bloodbourne, when in reality Undertale is a decent throwback to Earthbound with cringy meme humor meant to appeal to the teenage girls who shop at Hot Topic and are always begging their parents to get them tickets to Panic at the Disco, most of whom just watched some washed out LP'er on YouTube play through the game while overexaggerating how good it is.

Really just needed to blow off some steam (pun not intended). I wouldn't take this thread too seriously but I do want to know if anyone feels the same way.

That is because 99% of indie games are absultuely TERRIBLE... So when that 1% that is good comes around, indie fanboys go crazy to defend their "fandom", just like bronies and animoo fans.

And I don't get the whole "let's player" thing either... One is not exactly a gamer when all one does is watch other people play games (usually some over 30something guy high on something overreacting to every little thing because they get millions for it because it makes freindless facebook millenials think they have a real friend).

[The nameless Gamer]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Sharp Cane:

Not to say there aren't good indie games out there, but we can't even go one year anymore without some flavor of the season indie game getting oversaturated all over the Internet by a bunch of people who are "fans" of the game even though they haven't even played it yet.

The current example is Undertale. People are saying that that game should've won GOTY, and not just indie game GOTY, but that it should've been competing with and beating the Witcher III, MGS V, FO4, and Bloodbourne, when in reality Undertale is a decent throwback to Earthbound with cringy meme humor meant to appeal to the teenage girls who shop at Hot Topic and are always begging their parents to get them tickets to Panic at the Disco, most of whom just watched some washed out LP'er on YouTube play through the game while overexaggerating how good it is.

Really just needed to blow off some steam (pun not intended). I wouldn't take this thread too seriously but I do want to know if anyone feels the same way.

Well... the recent trend in the AAA department is that games are full of bugs, so they hardly deserve praise. To me, regardless if it's an indie or an AAA game, or something in between, the first and foremostly important thing is that the game WORKS. An example: The Legend of Heroes - Trails in the Sky 2nd chapter. It may have cute and simple visuals, but in 150 hours of gameplay, I have encountered a single one-time error, and THAT puts it way above any AAA title in my book. And anyway, graphics are definitely the least important thing about a game. Right below the gameplay come the music and the writing (both stellar in Legend of Heroes games).

Final note: One should pick the games according to his/her preference, not symbolic stuff like "game of the year", or how much the game is (un)popular.