aqua493xd 2024 年 7 月 21 日 下午 6:16
Why is it that when someone disagrees with you they are racist or mysoginist? Or some other ism?
Is it really that hard to agree to disagree? Or do you genuinely think anyone who disagrees with you is somehow morally inferior to you?
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Steve 2024 年 7 月 21 日 下午 8:12 
When people disagree with me they are none of those things you list OP.

They are simply wrong.
ImSoCool599 2024 年 7 月 21 日 下午 8:14 
Sounds like you are undergoing some type of complex. It's really never that deep.
kingjames488 2024 年 7 月 21 日 下午 8:14 
typical ism-ist point of view...

引用自 Siluva
引用自 Xero_Daxter
Privilege? You do realize I'm a minority too.

You will be surprised to hear that there is a breed of hardcore leftists who consider asians and whites the same.

Welcome to the family bro', here is your privilege card, we got a barbecue at Brad's house next saturday :selphinehappy:
what do you mean "a breed"?

is this some sort of ism?
Angel 2024 年 7 月 21 日 下午 8:24 
Can't say I've experienced this. My mentality is more towards "I disagree but respect your opinion".

Different people definitely have different opinions and experiences.
Michael 2024 年 7 月 21 日 下午 8:24 
The ists are a crazy bunch.
76561199737777412 2024 年 7 月 21 日 下午 8:58 
These people aren't rational and can't win a debate to save their lives. So they try to dismiss you instead using lowly accusations. Even if they can't call you an -ist or a -phobe, then they can still call you a troll, or report you, or say that you are obsessed and shouldn't care, etcetera.

Furthermore, their worldview, including their self-image, is largely based on fictions and denial and so it is extremely unstable. They have to defend it with all their might in order for it to not collapse. They literally can't deal with other views/opinions, because anything other than reaffirmation is going to threaten their Jenga tower of delusion.
最後修改者:ghost; 2024 年 7 月 21 日 下午 9:07
aqua493xd 2024 年 7 月 21 日 下午 9:31 
引用自 c Z p
引用自 Clown Syndrome
These people aren't rational and can't win a debate to save their lives. So they try to dismiss you instead using lowly accusations. Even if they can't call you an -ist or a -phobe, then they can still call you a troll, or report you, or say that you are obsessed and shouldn't care, etcetera.

Furthermore, their worldview, including their self-image, is largely based on fictions and denial and so it is extremely unstable. They have to defend it with all their might in order for it to not collapse. They literally can't deal with other views/opinions, because anything other than reaffirmation is going to threaten their Jenga tower of delusion.
Curious choice of words coming from a worthless clown account.
Do you have a valid counter-argument, or just insults?
Triple G 2024 年 7 月 21 日 下午 11:11 
引用自 Clown Syndrome
These people aren't rational and can't win a debate to save their lives. So they try to dismiss you instead using lowly accusations. Even if they can't call you an -ist or a -phobe, then they can still call you a troll, or report you, or say that you are obsessed and shouldn't care, etcetera.

Furthermore, their worldview, including their self-image, is largely based on fictions and denial and so it is extremely unstable. They have to defend it with all their might in order for it to not collapse. They literally can't deal with other views/opinions, because anything other than reaffirmation is going to threaten their Jenga tower of delusion.
...and sometimes they always call others "they" or "You all", even if they talk only to one person, and don´t mean the gender language "they".

Topic:
it might happen that i disagree with racists and fascists though. Another question would be why the discussion is then oftentimes about certain terms, even if they´re applied correctly. Or why far right people say that they´re the center, but everybody else is left. Or why people say one should talk about the subject, and not about the person - and then proceed to talk about the person. Or why some discussion should be about winning or losing something to begin with, when it´s basically only an exchange of opinions.

Or why it´s okay if one side says something, but not when the other says the same thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgAEWUy5CPQ
TGC> The Games Collector 2024 年 7 月 21 日 下午 11:30 
From what I've seen it's pure projection.

Most of those idiots throwing these isms around seem to be the worst of it themselves.
Hobbit XIII 2024 年 7 月 22 日 上午 1:20 
引用自 aqua493xd
Is it really that hard to agree to disagree? Or do you genuinely think anyone who disagrees with you is somehow morally inferior to you?

It depends what the subject is.
Usually people disagree with me because of two things :

1. Cultural values are different so priorities are different.
or
2. They are stupid.
最後修改者:Hobbit XIII; 2024 年 7 月 22 日 上午 1:20
PaulKrawitz 2024 年 7 月 22 日 上午 2:00 
Calling someone "racist", "misogynist", "misandrist", "bigot", "homophobe", or "transphobe" is easy; but actually looking at what they said and asking them to explain so that you may understand their point of view and see things through their eyes... that's difficult.

Hence why few are willing to take that extra step and instead resort to insults.
ulia 2024 年 7 月 22 日 上午 2:03 
No real person will call you a racist or misogynist without prompt or reason. You're not exempt from criticism, especially when expressing racist or misogynist views.
PaulKrawitz 2024 年 7 月 22 日 上午 2:11 
引用自 ulia
No real person will call you a racist or misogynist without prompt or reason. You're not exempt from criticism, especially when expressing racist or misogynist views.

Expressions depend on the point of view though... something may sound misogynistic or racist or whatever but perhaps it wasn't meant to be that.
AdahnGorion 2024 年 7 月 22 日 上午 2:14 
Unless we talk about full on discrimination from someone (that can happeh ofc) then its often used becasue the attacker can´t counter a valid argument and/or fact.
This will prompt the defeated person to try and miscredit the person, rather than the argument, in hope that it will invalid the argument presented.

This is an ancient tactic. It seldom works however.
ulia 2024 年 7 月 22 日 上午 2:16 
引用自 PaulKrawitz
Expressions depend on the point of view though... something may sound misogynistic or racist or whatever but perhaps it wasn't meant to be that.

More reason to call it out as such, if the intent was not racism or misogyny then surely the accused gains to benefit from the criticism in order to not repeat the mistake.
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