7 million prime age men not in the labor force in the U.S.

[Chocobo & Moogle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDokADZfvwc&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diM0ROfBpT0&t=188s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEC2Nq7Z6lc&t=342s

Men ages 25-54 have created a hole in the economy. This suggests the American economy isn't as strong as Joe Biden claims it to be. Less young people are purchasing houses and having families.

[Triple G]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Professor:

I think most people would be aware ...

*should*

Oprindeligt skrevet af abcd:

so human rights determining allotments do actually matter, by his own logic.

Human rights are no laws.

[abcd]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Triple G:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Professor:

I think most people would be aware ...

*should*

Oprindeligt skrevet af abcd:

so human rights determining allotments do actually matter, by his own logic.

Human rights are no laws.

there are laws regarding human rights.

I cannot buy and sell using a frog as my proxy, for instance.

[Professor]

Oprindeligt skrevet af abcd:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Professor:

I think most people would be aware that Capitalism is NON patriotic. Ray Dalio, the founder & chief of "Bridgewater" one of the largest hedge funds in the world, states the following;

"It is worth reminding that money doesn't have any loyalty to any country, way of life, political system or set of ideals. There is only loyalty to shareholders & the goal of making profit. National boundaries, ideologies & human rights are irrelevant in this environment as all that matters is who can buy & who can sell"

so human rights determining allotments do actually matter, by his own logic.

The human rights issue, becomes precarious when it comes to capitalism, as it was western corporations that made China the manufacturing powerhouse hub for the western world.

[abcd]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Professor:

Oprindeligt skrevet af abcd:

so human rights determining allotments do actually matter, by his own logic.

The human rights issue, become precarious when it comes to capitalism, as it was western corporations that made China the manufacturing powerhouse hub for the western world.

but if people aren't granted the rights necessary to buy and sell they cannot participate.

Ray Dailo and people like him are at the mercy of laws granting him physical protection from his opponents. Otherwise they could buy mercenaries and sell what's left of his body.

[Triple G]

Oprindeligt skrevet af abcd:

there are laws regarding human rights.

I cannot buy and sell using a frog as my proxy, for instance.

It´s about national laws, not about human rights. And if some law says something is illegal, and You would pay a fine of $200k for violating it - it means it´s fine as long as You make more profits, as these are then costs which can be calculated, while it doesn´t even need to be that people would know about it. So it´s only some kind of risk to perhaps pay the fine.

What the professor quoted is how it is. And the national borders are nice, because in all of them are different laws, as else these wouldn´t be a need for borders. And the global companies will use this to their advantage, and chose the places with certain laws for their business if it means more profits. As making profits is the only job they have to do. No matter what.

[Professor]

Oprindeligt skrevet af abcd:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Professor:

The human rights issue, become precarious when it comes to capitalism, as it was western corporations that made China the manufacturing powerhouse hub for the western world.

but if people aren't granted the rights necessary to buy and sell they cannot participate.

Yes true but that is only at a localised level, nation by nation perhaps. They implement protection measures for the workforce & society in general, but it would be something that the captains of capitalism don't really concerns themselves with.

The cost of human rights to private enterprise would always be loaded on to the consumer via higher prices, lower wages & cheaper manufacturing strategies. They will not let such things erode their profit margins.

For the private corporation, huge fines, debt, taxes & so on, are not actually paid by them they are always loaded into the price of anything they buy or sell. It is factored into the price of doing business.

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

With the way the economy and job market is going right now...

Side-hustle jobs (undocumented employment) often pay more than the average steady job, and the government has a hard time getting their 30% from the side-hustle guy in that case.

[AdahnGorion]

Don´t worry they all got student debs forgiveness, so they are doing alright.
Then again when you major in Liberal Arts, then often you wont find a job anyway.

The US educational system is filled with stuff that are pointless and does not give actual qualifications needed in most jobs. These pointless degree´s have become very popular with the younger generation and they often find themselves without job and refusing to take a lower end paying job.

Factor in that the US educational system have a huge focus on diversity, social, arts and inclusion studies, while the DEI jobs and so forth are pretty much drying up.. this means that many people have useless educations that make no actual sense in the market.

[Triple G]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Professor:

The cost of human rights to private enterprise would always be loaded on to the consumer via higher prices, lower wages & cheaper manufacturing strategies.

I mean there´s a human right about same pay for the same work. But it can´t be enforced globally. Because else either AMD wouldn´t be an American company, or their chips wouldn´t feature "made in Malaysia or Taiwan". Same as for most other companies in the West.

Also the "cost of human rights" would affect every workplace. There are only extra costs if some wouldn´t enforce the human rights - which is the case. Actually i don´t know any country which has "same pay for the same work". And the US also violates the human right that any human should have access to the living standard in the country, which is solved via welfare and universal healthcare in Europe, even if that is also not really like that.

[ZZZZZ]

not everyone is made for work, some ppl just want to chill and its their right to do so

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Maybe they can move to a better country, if they adapt to not saying supremacist crap that is mainstream and normal in the US.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sir Dookface McFerretballs:

With the way the economy and job market is going right now...

Side-hustle jobs (undocumented employment) often pay more than the average steady job, and the government has a hard time getting their 30% from the side-hustle guy in that case. :marten_sip:

Yeah, and there are people making money not working regular 9-5 jobs. Some people are content creators, they trade crypto, or they make money online using A.I.

[Hobbit XIII]

IF it is an issue, then give half of those 7 million people who are fit or can get into a good state of fitness an acre of land to farm.

They still receive state assistance if they require it but they will also be producing, for themselves and maybe others too.

[Professor]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Triple G:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Professor:

The cost of human rights to private enterprise would always be loaded on to the consumer via higher prices, lower wages & cheaper manufacturing strategies.

I mean there´s a human right about same pay for the same work. But it can´t be enforced globally. Because else either AMD wouldn´t be an American company, or their chips wouldn´t feature "made in Malaysia or Taiwan". Same as for most other companies in the West.

Also the "cost of human rights" would affect every workplace. There are only extra costs if some wouldn´t enforce the human rights - which is the case. Actually i don´t know any country which has "same pay for the same work". And the US also violates the human right that any human should have access to the living standard in the country, which is solved via welfare and universal healthcare in Europe, even if that is also not really like that.

Yes true that human rights are not really global as they are more likely distributed differently nation by nation as we all have slightly different interpretations of our local laws. Human rights are not something that private enterprise concerns itself with.

It will abide by the nations laws but often they are given favour by governments as jobs are very important to the politician as they try to satisfies peoples need for wealth generation. But again the private corporation can sack hundreds & sometimes thousands of employees at a time & where are the human rights for fair employment when corporations can downsize instantly?

Governments are complicit when it comes to the protection of corporate profits & do very little to stop the corporation from destroying peoples livelihoods.

[VDRSK]

When you're exploiting the poor for money and they can barely live still, eventually it's going to crumble.

Australia's living expensive are really high, A couple of my houses have $850+ rent a week and that is cheap for a good house, the houses next to mine that are smaller are $1200 a week. I see so many adults complain about children not getting their own houses but haven't seen just how hard it is a lot of people are just "giving up"

It's not a good time to be poor, although in fairness getting rich seems to have never been easier. The "Hauk tuah girl" has made multiple deals for shows and such so it's a confusing time.