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One thing that dissapointed me the most after reading bible.
Jesus said, there is no marriage being done in heaven.
(Matthew 22:29 Jesus: "people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven")

As an unmarried person, I always thought I would find a partner in heaven.

This part really dissapointed my fantasy about heaven.(i dreamed of having multiple wives
and pleasure in heaven, being happy finally after death)

Even if I make to heaven somehow, i'll probably get kicked out

with my perverted mind being single in heaven..
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Jesus said, there is no marriage being done in heaven.
(Matthew 22:29 Jesus: "people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven")

As an unmarried person, I always thought I would find a partner in heaven.

This part really dissapointed my fantasy about heaven.(i dreamed of having multiple wives
and pleasure in heaven, being happy finally after death)

Even if I make to heaven somehow, i'll probably get kicked out

with my perverted mind being single in heaven..
Go take a Seminary course. You'll find that the King James translation had many different authors, and that it was assembled by a religious committee.

Then maybe you can decide what you like and don't like, and perhaps decide on your own personal values dear to you, and not by some one else's criteria.
Hmmm...


So God gave humans free will...

Angels don't have free will...

Humans... "will be like the angels in heaven".

So you don't have to worry about all the fantasies you had as a mortal, because without free will you will no longer yearn for any of that.

Your spirit will just be filled with whatever is divinely programmed into it.

Just sayin.
Editat ultima dată de Aesthier; 31 iul. 2024 la 5:00
abcd 31 iul. 2024 la 5:06 
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Hmmm...


So God gave humans free will...

Angels don't have free will...

humans... "they will be like the angels in heaven".

No more free will so you don't have to worry about all the fantasies you had as a mortal because without free will you will no longer yearn for any of that.

You spirit will just be filled with whatever is divinely programmed into it.

Just sayin.
that never made sense to me. If the angels have no free will then how did Helel and other angels rebel against God? Unless he made them do that so he could vast them down to hell.

God offers Jobe several lectures on free will which apply in this situation.

The angels are free to rebel, but they know the futility of doing so.

Likewise those in heaven will not be made suitable for service; they will decide to do so of their own accord. With or without prodding.
Editat ultima dată de abcd; 31 iul. 2024 la 5:06
Heaven seems kinda boring, not gonna lie.
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The angels are free to rebel, but they know the futility of doing so.


Well yeah now they do, but some of them had to try it out first.

Which means God created them that way.

Free Will pre-alpha version 0.2?
Editat ultima dată de Aesthier; 31 iul. 2024 la 5:12
abcd 31 iul. 2024 la 5:15 
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The angels are free to rebel, but they know the futility of doing so.


Well yeah now they do, but some of them had to try it out first.

Which means God created them that way.

Free Will pre-alpha version 0.2?

It'd be more like God doesn't understand Free Will, and created angels to try things out with.

Angels no doubt instantly comprehended the concept, leaving them with a retarded god.

It may have taken them a while to realize He was in error.
Editat ultima dată de abcd; 31 iul. 2024 la 5:16
eram 31 iul. 2024 la 5:17 
no spoilers please, i wanna see how it ends
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It'd be more like God doesn't understand Free Will, and created angels to try things out with.

But from everything I ever read God is all knowing and all powerful so there is no point to experiments.

I do understand that my wee mortal brain will never comprehend or deduce the will or intentions of God, however, being human I can't stop my compulsion to try.
Editat ultima dată de Aesthier; 31 iul. 2024 la 5:21
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It'd be more like God doesn't understand Free Will, and created angels to try things out with.

But from everything I ever read God is all knowing and all powerful so there is no point to experiments.

I do understand that my wee mortal brain will never comprehend or deduce the will or intentions of God, however, being human I can't stop my compulsion to try.

ok, we are still in the creation process that is why we evolve and have genetics that require diversity because it enables us to survive otherwise we would suffer the fate of clones and that is one thing kills one it can kill all.
abcd 31 iul. 2024 la 5:25 
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It'd be more like God doesn't understand Free Will, and created angels to try things out with.

But from everything I ever read God is all knowing and all powerful so there is no point to experiments.
That's a tough position to hold if you read the primary source. Thus why many outlets claiming such things don't encourage actually reading the Bible.

I do understand that my wee mortal brain will never comprehend or deduce the will or intentions of God, however, being human I can't stop my compulsion to try.

Kant is using 'God' as a stand-in for The Logicer; under the assumption that by God's nature no thoughts can happen without his approval.

The bulk of his assertions deal with the existential issue of God wanting us to prove his existence but also denying us the opportunity categorically and punishing us severely as we come closer to doing so.

And, yet, he grants us a compulsion to fulfill this need.
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Jesus said, there is no marriage being done in heaven.
(Matthew 22:29 Jesus: "people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven")

As an unmarried person, I always thought I would find a partner in heaven.

This part really dissapointed my fantasy about heaven.(i dreamed of having multiple wives
and pleasure in heaven, being happy finally after death)

Even if I make to heaven somehow, i'll probably get kicked out

with my perverted mind being single in heaven..

you described Islam for your wishes - adding in regards to multiple wives in heaven.
i dont see my wish as islam because, the first geneations of men had multiple wives
when they were first created
Really...? Just one thing...?
sfnhltb 31 iul. 2024 la 9:25 
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The angels are free to rebel, but they know the futility of doing so.


Well yeah now they do, but some of them had to try it out first.

Which means God created them that way.

Free Will pre-alpha version 0.2?

Well, also if supposedly large part of human history is crap because god gave us free will, but heaven isn't like that does that mean free will gets taken away after you die, and you just become a puppet in a sea of infinite blandness where nothing of note happens?
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Really...? Just one thing...?
prob also dissapointed jesus prob never reward with wealth and woman according to
what i read such things as rich is almost impossible to go to heaven himself without god
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Well yeah now they do, but some of them had to try it out first.

Which means God created them that way.

Free Will pre-alpha version 0.2?

Well, also if supposedly large part of human history is crap because god gave us free will, but heaven isn't like that does that mean free will gets taken away after you die, and you just become a puppet in a sea of infinite blandness where nothing of note happens?
The free will of those in the Final Heaven and Earth will have only the will of The Father in their hearts and minds, thus will we praise eternally with a New Song of Moses in eternal worship to the Most High Eternal. Not trying to be cryptic, but it may seem so. What I mean to say is our only will, will be His Will, which is all things done to Glorify Him.
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