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Akboris 21 Apr 2024 @ 11:01am
Do right wing/conservative (mainstream) video games even exist?
Ive noticed that seemingly every video game to ever make it big and generate enough to create a whole franchise of games, and hell, even most one off games to see a full release, parrot left wing talking points and themes and agendas beneath the surface (with varying quality of writing of course), why does it seem like genuinely conservative video games, as in, created by or at least with the intent of supporting conservatives or right wing ideals, basically dont exist?

This is also funny given just how much pressure certain groups place on the industry to parrot specific ideals and agendas, given that the industry almost already support them.
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Everyone is biased. It's a ridiculous statement to ask if a person is or isn't biased. I bet you breath air! *Gasp*


right?

for some reason one person is teaching their kids while the other is indoctrinating

this happens on all sides and is just weird

op

i have to agree with the post earlier

for the most part

people are just making games they like

you will occasionally get a politically motivated one

but that is not the norm

if you are seeing so much

"leftist parroting"

in the games

it could be time to look at yourself and see what it is that makes you feel like that

You are not very well informed. Did you even miss the SBI thing? Or you just swept that aside or something?
B 21 Apr 2024 @ 12:20pm 
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Fantasy history is often centered around the mistreatement of race. Which is under my understanding woke. Meaning it's at the very least not right wing.

What about when messaging includes racial determinism.

First, all the races band together against sauron. This alliance is a direct rebuttal to racial determinism, since it emphasizes the potential for cooperation and unity beyond racial lines.

Secondly, the narrative of LOTR challenges the notion of inherent racial superiority. While characters like the elves are portrayed with a certain nobility, they also have their flaws, such as pride and a reluctance to engage with the outside world, which eventually leads to their decline.

Moreover, the main antagonist, Sauron, and his desire to control all of Middle-earth reflect totalitarian and fascist ideologies, against which all the free peoples of Middle-earth unite.

Tolkien's portrayal of 'evil' races such as Orcs has been criticized for racial determinism. However, these creations are more a product of Tolkien’s attempt to depict the corruption of good by evil forces (e.g., Orcs originally being Elves twisted by Morgoth) rather than an endorsement of inherent racial traits.

So yeah. Lord of the Rings is hella woke.
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Right wing or conservative ideas are not conducive for cultural production because they're inherently reactive practices, not creative.
Actually most videos are centered around right-wing cultures, even if they parrot left-wing talking points.


Take "weapon" culture. I was going to say gun culture but I realized that it really boils down to "weapon" culture given we're seeing left-wing places like the UK not only ban most guns, but long-knives or swords.

And given that right-wing culture operates on the freedom of the individual to own swords, knives and guns.

How many games out there have an underlying right-wing theme, because the absence of that right-wing theme would make a poor video game. Imagine the assassins Creed games without swords...or a Call of Duty game without a gun?


Now we do see reflections of left-wingers. Left-wingers want to disarm the populations and leave people defenseless...we see that theme all the time. And I'm not just talking about blue cities allowing massive crime sprees or doing cashless bail supporting criminal behavior...but in video games how often does the bad guy disarm innocent people who need the hero to save the day?
Usually the hero uses lots of guns or some type of weapon to save these people.
Arvaos 21 Apr 2024 @ 12:23pm 
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Nobody sets out to make games with political statements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aDZb4fZAeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJn4kFDDc4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BpjUiAqQe0

The original game was just him setting out to make The Guns of Navarone mixed with the Great Escape, but by the second game, he was preaching on energy crises, child soldiers, the treatment of Eastern Bloc athletes and the ever-popular disposability of soldiers.

Also, grown men venerating Santa Claus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAEv4SpW7gY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x6mVUDB6Fw

Metal Gear Solid is on the left side of politics.

https://youtu.be/MiOjxRvBCBU?si=SW8scjDVfqhoBm_b
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Right wing or conservative ideas are not conducive for cultural production because they're inherently reactive practices, not creative.
Actually most videos are centered around right-wing cultures, even if they parrot left-wing talking points.

Take "weapon" culture. I was going to say gun culture but I realized that it really boils down to "weapon" culture given we're seeing left-wing places like the UK not only ban most guns, but long-knives or swords.

And given that right-wing culture operates on the freedom of the individual to own swords, knives and guns.

How many games out there have an underlying right-wing theme, because the absence of that right-wing theme would make a poor video game. Imagine the assassins Creed games without swords...or a Call of Duty game without a gun?


Now we do see reflections of left-wingers. Left-wingers want to disarm the populations and leave people defenseless...we see that theme all the time. And I'm not just talking about blue cities allowing massive crime sprees or doing cashless bail supporting criminal behavior...but in video games how often does the bad guy disarm innocent people who need the hero to save the day?
Usually the hero uses lots of guns or some type of weapon to save these people.
Guns aren't inherently "right wing". The Soviet Union used to teach school kids about firearms and Communist/Socialist countries have always glorified the military......
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aDZb4fZAeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJn4kFDDc4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BpjUiAqQe0

The original game was just him setting out to make The Guns of Navarone mixed with the Great Escape, but by the second game, he was preaching on energy crises, child soldiers, the treatment of Eastern Bloc athletes and the ever-popular disposability of soldiers.

Also, grown men venerating Santa Claus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAEv4SpW7gY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x6mVUDB6Fw

Metal Gear Solid is on the left side of politics.

https://youtu.be/MiOjxRvBCBU?si=SW8scjDVfqhoBm_b
Do left-wingers want to ban guns?
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Just an fyi. There are left wing people who enjoy guns, hunting and big trucks. So a game having a weapon doesn't make it right wing. An utterly ridiculous claim.
Exactly, weapons aren't inherent to one side or another. People have really become too direction-brained.
B 21 Apr 2024 @ 12:25pm 
Just an fyi. There are left wing people who enjoy guns, hunting and big trucks. So a game having a weapon doesn't make it right wing. An utterly ridiculous claim.
ZZZZZ 21 Apr 2024 @ 12:26pm 
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Right wing or conservative ideas are not conducive for cultural production because they're inherently reactive practices, not creative.
Actually most videos are centered around right-wing cultures, even if they parrot left-wing talking points.


Take "weapon" culture. I was going to say gun culture but I realized that it really boils down to "weapon" culture given we're seeing left-wing places like the UK not only ban most guns, but long-knives or swords.

And given that right-wing culture operates on the freedom of the individual to own swords, knives and guns.

How many games out there have an underlying right-wing theme, because the absence of that right-wing theme would make a poor video game. Imagine the assassins Creed games without swords...or a Call of Duty game without a gun?


Now we do see reflections of left-wingers. Left-wingers want to disarm the populations and leave people defenseless...we see that theme all the time. And I'm not just talking about blue cities allowing massive crime sprees or doing cashless bail supporting criminal behavior...but in video games how often does the bad guy disarm innocent people who need the hero to save the day?
Usually the hero uses lots of guns or some type of weapon to save these people.
that logic says that we mainly kill right wingers in video games.. in games we mainly own and use weapons not cause we are weapon fans but to kill the other guys with weapons
Akboris 21 Apr 2024 @ 12:28pm 
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So yeah. Lord of the Rings is hella woke.

I mean nothing described falls under my definition of woke, or probably anyone elses for that matter, I guess unless you use the original low-caliber meaning of the world.
B 21 Apr 2024 @ 12:29pm 
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So yeah. Lord of the Rings is hella woke.

I mean nothing described falls under my definition of woke, or probably anyone elses for that matter, I guess unless you use the original low-caliber meaning of the world.

Uniting all the races. Sounds pretty woke from the different talks of woke I get shoved down my ears all day long. DEI right?
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Actually most videos are centered around right-wing cultures, even if they parrot left-wing talking points.


Take "weapon" culture. I was going to say gun culture but I realized that it really boils down to "weapon" culture given we're seeing left-wing places like the UK not only ban most guns, but long-knives or swords.

And given that right-wing culture operates on the freedom of the individual to own swords, knives and guns.

How many games out there have an underlying right-wing theme, because the absence of that right-wing theme would make a poor video game. Imagine the assassins Creed games without swords...or a Call of Duty game without a gun?


Now we do see reflections of left-wingers. Left-wingers want to disarm the populations and leave people defenseless...we see that theme all the time. And I'm not just talking about blue cities allowing massive crime sprees or doing cashless bail supporting criminal behavior...but in video games how often does the bad guy disarm innocent people who need the hero to save the day?
Usually the hero uses lots of guns or some type of weapon to save these people.
that logic says that we mainly kill right wingers in video games.. in games we mainly own and use weapons not cause we are weapon fans but to kill the other guys with weapons
It depends on the game but people are allowed to be non-political. And I suspect depending on the genre that most NPC's are non-political in nature.
sfnhltb 21 Apr 2024 @ 12:29pm 
Aren't most FPSes basically right wing masturbation fantasies of one man with a gun fixing everything that is wrong with the world? (within the limited single route corridor they get to run along in that particular game)
Arvaos 21 Apr 2024 @ 12:30pm 
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Right wing or conservative ideas are not conducive for cultural production because they're inherently reactive practices, not creative.

Conservatism perhaps, but I dont see why right wing ideas or beliefs cant be creative, I mean much of our art and symbology stems from Christianity, and that can present itself in many interesting ways. Unless what you are saying exempts things like religion or traditional practices, I dont see how that can be true in such an absolute way.

You can find beautiful artwork in religions and cultures around the world.

Christian, Mayan, Islam, Buddhist, Hinduism.
B 21 Apr 2024 @ 12:31pm 
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Aren't most FPSes basically right wing masturbation fantasies of one man with a gun fixing everything that is wrong with the world? (within the limited single route corridor they get to run along in that particular game)

Naw because the story, characters or something else is generally too left leaning for the people running further right.

But left leaning people buy guns too. so guns aren't a right only deal.
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