Why is a "real" representation of a woman in video games

[Triple]

always means fat and ugly women? it's like women can't be fit and take care of themselves or something?

[TwisterCat]

It's not even that they're ugly. It's that they're ugly in a sort of way that doesn't represent ANY of the women I've actually seen in the real world. Even real women look better. Even the worst-looking of the real women. It's uncanny.

It's propaganda, that's why. Pushing the narrative that women are ugly, and should be ugly. Don't buy the game's in question, choke 'em out.

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Pikumii님이 먼저 게시:

Triple님이 먼저 게시:

always means fat and ugly women? it's like women can't be fit and take care of themselves or something?

That is totally subjective by the way...

Even "fit" under some circunstances is subjective...

So yeah, this is just you having a specific problem

No it isn't, there's a logic to it. For example, more symmetrical faces are universally liked better than non-symmetrical ones. Being overweight is a sign of unhealthiness and therefore it is naturally repulsive.

[Triple]

Zwarte Klaas님이 먼저 게시:

Pikumii님이 먼저 게시:

That is totally subjective by the way...

Even "fit" under some circunstances is subjective...

So yeah, this is just you having a specific problem

No it isn't, there's a logic to it. For example, more symmetrical faces are universally liked better than non-symmetrical ones. Being overweight is a sign of unhealthiness and therefore it is naturally repulsive.

I disagree a symmetrical face doesn't have anything to do with fitness, that's just good genes.

[Haruspex]

Triple님이 먼저 게시:

So female video game characters are giving fat slob women a wake up call?

Er, I wouldn't say that. Actually I think that's just a matter of a certain type of extremist activist who dislikes the idea that a straight white man (aka, the enemy) might find a woman attractive.

It's like, the character herself isn't a problem, but men like her, so that makes her a problem, and the only way to fix it is to change her appearance so men won't find her attractive anymore, and anyone who disagrees is automatically a coomer, a PDF file, a chud, and a corn addict.

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Triple님이 먼저 게시:

Zwarte Klaas님이 먼저 게시:

No it isn't, there's a logic to it. For example, more symmetrical faces are universally liked better than non-symmetrical ones. Being overweight is a sign of unhealthiness and therefore it is naturally repulsive.

I disagree a symmetrical face doesn't have anything to do with fitness, that's just good genes.

I didn't say that, I mentioned two examples of why it is not "totally subjective".

[Triple]

Haruspex님이 먼저 게시:

Triple님이 먼저 게시:

So female video game characters are giving fat slob women a wake up call?

Er, I wouldn't say that. Actually I think that's just a matter of a certain type of extremist activist who dislikes the idea that a straight white man (aka, the enemy) might find a woman attractive.

It's like, the character herself isn't a problem, but men like her, so that makes her a problem.

Yeah but those women hate men because they're femcels and no man would give them a chance

[Triple]

Zwarte Klaas님이 먼저 게시:

Triple님이 먼저 게시:

I disagree a symmetrical face doesn't have anything to do with fitness, that's just good genes.

I didn't say that, I mentioned two examples of why it is not "totally subjective".

my bad then

[Shadow]

Medified님이 먼저 게시:

ur mom!!!!!!

Lol

[Goldias]

Maybe they want the mass to appreciate ugly people.
They won't succeed.

[Val]

Goldias님이 먼저 게시:

Maybe they want the mass to appreciate ugly people.
They won't succeed.

They want working class and middle class men to be attracted to ugly females while "THE RULING ELITES" have all the beautiful women, that's the true purpose of the propaganda

[Barney, from Black Mesa.]

Pikumii님이 먼저 게시:

That is totally subjective by the way... Even "fit" under some circunstances is subjective... So yeah, this is just you having a specific problem

Alright, yet naturally, the 'grand majority' of people wouldn't find others who poorly neglect their health and body attractive; you cannot deny what is hardwired into us as to what has innately guided us to be drawn to healthy and attractive-looking primates rather than skinny, skinny-fat, or obese people (fetishes do not count).

Furthermore, having a fit body is not "subjective"; body types are not "subjective" either. If you were living in the real world, you could tell the difference between an unhealthy and an athletic body type—someone can occasionally "look" average but be fairly strong; this does not, however, mean that your body's build is subjective. None of this requires some sort of esoteric knowledge to recognise any of this.

Gosh forbid that you believed any of these things that you had said, and not even twenty years ago, you would have sounded insane for undermining what is otherwise objectively observable. Also, I'm not going to 'not' acknowledge the hostility in you stating that anyone who disagrees with you must have a "specific problem"; I'm sure types like you love to pigeonhole others, but just recognise me as somebody who was willing to waste their time in pointing out the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the wall. (Yes, I revoked your Reddit spacing from this exchange).

[Tonepoet]

Sans games with custom sliders for body-size where making the character look however you want is the point, and non-human characters who aren't realistic anyway, how many fat female characters are featured in video games? It's surely not a non-zero number, but you make it sound like an edemic of obesity has been unleashed and I'm just not seeing it.

The only ones I can think of are, Ellie in Borderlands 2, Buttercup from Bleeding Edge and Fat Princess and looking for more I have found Auntie Poulet. Maybe Aloy has a pudgy face and a stout neck, but below the neck she looks quite toned. So maybe four and a half, if we're being generous?

Some of those characters are more comedicly stylized than realistic. Meanwhile, Auntie Poulet bears a striking resemblance to Miss Cleo[mashable.com].

Where's this great onset endemic of moribid obesity?

Moreover, the only character who really looks unkempt is modern Lara, but that vaguely makes sense. Where is a girl going to find a shower in the deserts of egypt or the Amazon after mucking about in those dusty old tombs and the muddy swampy jungle?

[Devsman]

vkobe님이 먼저 게시:

Devsman님이 먼저 게시:

You kidding me? Gamers whine but they still buy. For example, when was the last time you heard a nice comment about EA?

did ea only survive with apex and fifa

their other game just fail ?

Hell if I know. Regardless, I haven't heard a nice comment about EA in a long time yet mysteriously they keep making money hand over fist.

[Tonepoet]

PaulKrawitz님이 먼저 게시:

I don't care what they are as long as they're Dommy Mommies like Ada Wong. 😂

But I mean, Ada Wong isn't even chubby, much less fat nor is she unkempt. If anything she looks like some stylish bar hopper who got ready for night out on the town.

That kind of reminds me though. There was a bit of a controversy regarding the Dragon's Crown[www.forbes.com] character designs despite some of them having a shall we say, more buxom figure. Just goes to show that you can't please everybody. :-P

[miakisfan]

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Val님이 먼저 게시:

Keep voting with your wallets and make it known to them that we don't tolerate them hijacking our religion / hobby to push their political agenda

Voting with your wallet is almost as useless as real voting. How are they supposed to know WHY people don't like it?

The point is to get them to realize something is wrong and it may be them that is the issue.

If you are bleeding money and you don't come to the conclusion that it may be your fault you can find out from your base why they are upset and try to change it. Any good business person knows they have to rely on the purchasing power of others to stay in business.

I don't care if the girl is fat or skinny as long as she fits the character profile for the game.

Now here's a truth some may not like. If the game calls for running, some type of exercise, or in the case of RPGs the ability to fight a long battle a heavy set woman isn't getting very far. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out which speaks volumes about the people who think heavy set women should be in those types of games.

The best way to let developers develop great games is to stay out of how they are making them ... especially those who are known for making excellent games to begin with. That usually begins with the characters. I'd stay away from developers who are just nodding their heads and sheepling along with this crap.