Google and Amazon is destroying the gaming industry while filling its own pockets

[vapechimp]

Okay I made a post about video games losing their appeal and it went south.

Let's start from scratch and give it a new try.

Since YouTube began allowing LPs and walkthroughs of video games, buying and playing a video game became ancient.

Why buy the game, play it 100 hours, when a pro tuber will do it for you in 1080p while you leisurely watch plus can chat online socially.

Interestingly Google and Amazon are reaping bags of gold doing it

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originalmente postado por vapechimp:

Originalmente postado por Plaid:

remember when Steam failed because of YouTube?

Steam is not failing but it is bleeding tons of money to Google and Amazon

Steam has literally been growing and breaking their own revenue records for years.

[Duck Twacy]

Originalmente postado por vapechimp:

Okay I made a post about video games losing their appeal and it went south.

Let's start from scratch and give it a new try.

Since YouTube began allowing LPs and walkthroughs of video games, buying and playing a video game became ancient.

Why buy the game, play it 100 hours, when a pro tuber will do it for you in 1080p while you leisurely watch plus can chat online socially.

Interestingly Google and Amazon are reaping bags of gold doing it

Walkthroughs have always been around. They're for people who are having a hard time with a part of the game. I don't see the problem. If someone watches it or reads it somewhere, then that's their business.

[crunchyfrog]

A poor assertion.

If this were the case, then we'll have seen a massive drop off YEARS ago and we haven't.

What we did actually see is a bit of the opposite. Many games sold gangbusters out of the blue either by some Youtuber covering it, or by a Youtuber playing it out of nowhere and bringing it to the fore.

I'd go as far as to say it helps sales on the whoel as video of gameplay from an entirely consumer perspective is INCREDIBLY valuable. It's a major factor in me buying games today.

So where's your evidence for any of this claim?

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originalmente postado por vapechimp:

Originalmente postado por SlowMango:

Steam has literally been growing and breaking their own revenue records for years.

This is a lie. Steam is not a public company and you can't know their income. Nice try though Mango :)

You still can get a very close estimate from public documents.

We can also literally see the user base constantly growing which translates into more revenue.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Originalmente postado por ZZZZZ:

Originalmente postado por Heitor Villa-Lobos:

It means what south? Geomagnetic?

This is widely recognized as a supremacist expression, normalized among many others in the USA.

There is no reason to do mental gymnastics here. It just needs to be avoided.

no, it originally means south like in terms of state or data/charts and their graphs.. like my company goes south if it loses in value on a chart (it goes down which is the south direction).. and ppl just copy it from there
its in general used for going down..

ur issue would be more that south is down

No, my issue is uconsiderate jerks and supremacists. I don't need some trollface freak trying to tell what "my issue" is.

South is not "down", and believing it is makes you a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ person in general.

[Morkonan]

Originalmente postado por vapechimp:

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Interestingly Google and Amazon are reaping bags of gold doing it

It'd help if you checked first to see if your opinion was correct.

https://gamerant.com/twitch-not-profitable/

Twitch isn't profitable.

https://fortune.com/2024/01/30/google-has-a-surprise-moneymaker-people-are-paying-for-youtube-and-its-driving-a-15-billion-subscriptions-business/

Youtube is profitable.

And, since Twitch hasn't been profitable and Youtube is, plus Youtube pays creators less and has broadcast TV channels and all the major sports/etc... Youtube's subscription plan could end Twitch. Youtube has streaming gaming and chat and all that...

Twitch was just run incompetently from the start. I don't think it can make it without magic beans or a Beezos-fairy sprinkling cash all over it. (Or, a lawsuit that protects it) I can see Amazon selling it to Tencent... That's be hilarious.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Originalmente postado por vapechimp:

If you look at a map, there are 4 directions - east west north and south. On the map south is always shown down (by default) and north is up, so when people say something is gone south they mean it gone down in the south direction

That default is only because of historical geopolitical reasons, a.k.a. imperialism of the northern countris.
Arabs have defaulted the South to be upwards for centuries.
In fact, before this century and Google® Maps©, you'd always label a map with a Winds Rose, or an arrow pointing North.

Nothing makes North up besides pure arrogance of US+EU.

All of these facts only sum up to deliberate associations of negative imagery to southern countries, even within Europe itself.

The southern border of USA is treated as a limit that separates civilized society and "lesser" countries by millions of US-ians and the US media, which even steals the name of the continent to mean only the US.

This usage of the phrase "when things go south" is widely recognized as being racist/xenophobic/imperialist. I am not making things up. I am just telling you to improve your phrasing.

[Talby]

Originalmente postado por Heitor Villa-Lobos:

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"Went south" as an offense is supremacist/xeniphobic speech. Please check your vocab and expressions.

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[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Originalmente postado por Talby:

Originalmente postado por Heitor Villa-Lobos:

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"Went south" as an offense is supremacist/xeniphobic speech. Please check your vocab and expressions.

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I am, in no way, joking. I don't appreciate your disregard for other people. May you fall from your high horse on your privilleged arse.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Originalmente postado por vapechimp:

@ Heitor

No I think north and south are tied to the magnetic poles no ? Which I have heard change once in a million years but...he

Yes, they are tied to them in some sense, but those don't have to be oriented in any particular direction. For geopolitical reasons most maps put the North up, but that is not a general orientation of Earth.

Could you please just edit out that supremacist expression?

[Ganger]

Heard the same arguments against steam back in the day.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Originalmente postado por vapechimp:

I think while I tie north and south to the magnetic poles established by cartographers and explorers, you are tying north and south to the civil war in America. Am I right ?

No, I am not.

First: There has never been a civil war in all of America. You are confusing the US with the continent our countries are part of.

Second: I am saying you can orient a magnet to any direction you want. Every magnet has two sides, and one isn't better than the other.

*European* cartographers often aligned North to be up, but not always. Also, you always need an arrow to show which way is North. Its arbiratry: you can point North to your Left. This isn't hard to comprehend...

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Originalmente postado por vapechimp:

But I will take your position into consideration because you know what, this phrase "things go south" indeed exists only in the american language. Huh

There are hundreds of live languages in American. You mean American English.

The way you improperly use the word "America" is also part of linguistic imperialism. It is no coincidence: its part of your surroundings.

Please do edit your original post and remove the offensive bit.

[crunchyfrog]

Originalmente postado por Heitor Villa-Lobos:

Originalmente postado por Talby:

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I am, in no way, joking. I don't appreciate your disregard for other people. May you fall from your high horse on your privilleged arse.

I'm sorry but you lacked the understanding about this phrase and were wrong.

Going south is a well known phrase that means thinks are going wrong.

It is NOT anythign racist or bigoted in ANY way.

You'd need to demosntrate that claim.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Originalmente postado por crunchyfrog:

Originalmente postado por Heitor Villa-Lobos:

I am, in no way, joking. I don't appreciate your disregard for other people. May you fall from your high horse on your privilleged arse.

I'm sorry but you lacked the understanding about this phrase and were wrong.

Going south is a well known phrase that means thinks are going wrong.

It is NOT anythign racist or bigoted in ANY way.

You'd need to demosntrate that claim.

I did not understand wrong. That phrase is well known to be bigoted in MANY ways.