USA nutrition fact labels are the worst

[Michanicks]

They listing calories per SERVING! It's just so stupid. What if you eat more or less than one whole serving, what if serving size is lack any practical logic and put only for people to eat more of product without thinking much? What if you need to prepare big enough meal for multiple people who eat differently (simpliest case as having kids behind the family table)? What's wrong with listing nutrition per one set weight for every product so you can count by yourself how much of food do you need today? What wrong with the school-grade math in the everyday life, did you study it for nothing? Not even for your own health and conviniency?

No wonder they have such high rate of obesity if they can't even count their calories straight.

[GunsForBucks]

IDK it works pretty easy for me.

Look at label.
see serving size and amount and think of how realistic it is
see % of daily value per serving

Pretty easy to see when something is going to be bad for you.

As far as dieting and absolute caloric intake while buying food? IDK seems like it is more complicated, and if you are cooking at that level anyway chances are your diet is better than most.

All the info is there if you look you just have to use it how you want to.

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Gorilla glue now comes with a warning on the bottle to not use in hair.

Companies put warnings and other stuff on the label so they can't be liable if you do something stupid with it.

[GunsForBucks]

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Gorilla glue now comes with a warning on the bottle to not use in hair.

Companies put warnings and other stuff on the label so they can't be liable if you do something stupid with it.

For real?

What some people will do to be Goku

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Gorilla glue now comes with a warning on the bottle to not use in hair.

Companies put warnings and other stuff on the label so they can't be liable if you do something stupid with it.

For real?

What some people will do to be Goku

Some woman sued gorilla glue because she used it in her hair and it wouldn't wash out she thought it was hairspray.

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Some woman sued gorilla glue because she used it in her hair and it wouldn't wash out she thought it was hairspray.

what? Cut the hair off and stop being stupid. That should be the judgement.

After reading it more I think she did it on purpose for tick tock fame and for gofund me money.

[crunchyfrog]

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I don't particularly know what American serving sizes are as I've not looked.

But I am aware of some of the horrible crap they put in their food. Not saying other countries don't do this of course, just that some in the US food is pretty awful.

Things like corn syrup. Jesus the smell of that stuff alone gives me a headache.

Or palm sugar (not sure if that's still a thing). Never mind what passes for chocolate

Different for any product depending on manufacturer's wish.

You're missing the point.

Corn syrup is vile and used a hell of a lot in US products and not elsewhere. It isn't in Britain at all to my knowledge.

And palm sugar too.

[Michanicks]

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All right, measuring things in whole cups! Because with fractions if you will ever need them, you gonna confuse things as most people do on any type of diet (people always underestimate how much they really consume). And all these things assuming americans have only one size for cups, and they all count them the same way, without pouring too much or below the top level.

It's just as precise as "handful", "spoonful" and other similar types of measurements making people easely understimate how much they really taking. But you can't fool the scale. Scale will show you the precise weight of your product, too bad labels don't tell you calories per weight, so you have to do one extra step in america for no good reason.
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So, you want the portion size in grams? Milliliters? Do you want all food products measured by a specific gravity based on calorie count? Caloric Density per gram?

You've got to be trolling - It's as if you think nobody has ever measured stuffs before you thunked it up... Nobody gives two wet farts about a smidgen over or under a particular portion size for food. A kitchen isn't a pharmacy or a lab.

Supplemental reading material while you are portioning out moles of hydrogenated soybean oil for salt bae...

https://www.fda.gov/food/nutrition-education-resources-materials/nutrition-facts-label

Why the ♥♥♥♥ should i even want to have listed portion sizes to begin with? I set my own portion sizes depending on my needs and caloric intake, like the rest of the world. I don't need companies to spoonfeed me the info about how big my portions should be.

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PS: This is one of those "hate 'murica" threads, right?

No, i don't hate US and its people. One think is hating the whole nation, the other thing is hating one specific thing.

[Michanicks]

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Man, everyone who used nutrition labels even outside of US can do math since it's required. Don't talk ♥♥♥♥ about thing you don't understand.

And what has baking to do with this, it works even with regular cooking or eating fresh stuff.
But no, i don't bake much because most of baked food unhealthy.

if you were to do more cooking/baking, you might have a better understanding of how to do the math (which seems to be the core issue you are concerned with)

Oh... so much time passed and you still can't understand, that with the regular nutrition labels you also need to do math? No matter what for, even for cooking and baking?

[Michanicks]

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Seems to me doing by weight is a lot more complicated frankly.
May be easier for "you". Most people don't weigh their food, they wouldn't even have a frame of reference.

You don't even have to weight the food. The point of regular nutriotion labels is that if you have 5 version of products from diferent manufacturers, then no matter how much size, weight and "portion sizes" any of them has, you can in first glance figure out what's the best for you.

What about weighting the food - with regular labels you just do it and do the simpliest math if you need it, it's not even required, manufacturers know that people are smart enough to set their own portion sized. With US labels, you can't just weight the product, you need to do a whole new step to turn portion size weight into something more convinient, so you can't do math on the fly as fast as with simple nutrition labels.

[Michanicks]

Opprinnelig skrevet av HypersleepyNaputunia:

turning on the scale and putting in clean container complicated compared to just pouring out 2 cups from a can or eyeball half a can

You don't even need containers and scales, you can eyeball with the regular labels too, that's what people without scales do without any problem, since they are not afraid of everyday math.

[Michanicks]

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Ignore what the packages say... it's what I do.

I know what food / drink is good for me, not some expect. My own body tells me if im eating the right food or not. Take McDonlds for instance, after eating a big mac, my body is telling me, this food is crap and im going to punish you for eating it.

Once you realise people are making a ton of money from selling healthy food, then you know it's a scam.

Good way to go, but sadly not very clear. Without counting calories it's much harder to either gain quality weight or lose extra weight, because difference between caloric intake and caloric burn is most important thing in diet. In theory, if you count your calories well, you can often have cheat foods like pizza slices and burgers and still be healthy enough.

[Michanicks]

Opprinnelig skrevet av GunsForBucks:

IDK it works pretty easy for me.

Look at label.
see serving size and amount and think of how realistic it is
see % of daily value per serving

Pretty easy to see when something is going to be bad for you.

As far as dieting and absolute caloric intake while buying food? IDK seems like it is more complicated, and if you are cooking at that level anyway chances are your diet is better than most.

All the info is there if you look you just have to use it how you want to.

Daily value of many things, proteins in particular, are different for many people, dependig on their age, size and weight. One set daily value to fit them all is not gonna work, as opposed to one set measurement.

[Michanicks]

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Different for any product depending on manufacturer's wish.

You're missing the point.

Corn syrup is vile and used a hell of a lot in US products and not elsewhere. It isn't in Britain at all to my knowledge.

And palm sugar too.

Yes, it seems i did, you can elaborate more if you want, i'll read it.

[Ganger]

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Good way to go, but sadly not very clear. Without counting calories it's much harder to either gain quality weight or lose extra weight, because difference between caloric intake and caloric burn is most important thing in diet. In theory, if you count your calories well, you can often have cheat foods like pizza slices and burgers and still be healthy enough.

As long as you eat food in moderation, no reason to be counting calories. We are all grown up people and we know ourselves what to or what not to eat. And I firmly believe it's all a marketing ploy.

[Michanicks]

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The problem there is that accurate scales are not as easily available, or consistently accurate, as volumetric measuring cups.

Necessity > Absolute Accuracy

sorry, but anyone doing even a basic amount of cooking/baking should have a scale in their kitchen (and use it)

they are cheap and very accurate (mine is to the gram)

edit: i may be overdoing it since i even weigh coffee beans before grinding them

Why did we argue to begin with if it seems that we support the same thing?