Is it true that God killed more people than Satan in the Bible?

[Apteryx]

I remember once seeing a bar graph of people God killed vs. people Satan killed and Satan killed like 20 people while God killed like 2.6 million people. Is that true?

[vkobe]

Bernard The Gurnard님이 먼저 게시:

Does this geezer know next weeks lottery number?

he can cheat and manipulate the result

[Pierce Dalton]

Zef Davenport님이 먼저 게시:

Pierce Dalton님이 먼저 게시:

If God already knows the future, there's no such thing as free will, though.

Some people can know the future too. Do they have free will?

I mean, sometimes the future is a bit obvious lol. But people can't know all the future like God.

[Bernard The Gurnard]

You could fill a concert hall with this material :-)

[Fajita Jim]

Pierce Dalton님이 먼저 게시:

But people can't know all the future like God.

Lots of verses in The Bible suggest that God does not have foreknowledge. Here's just one:


If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

[Bernard The Gurnard]

I think you should all finish with a song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35K6vQRt67g

[Stingray_tm]

Fajita Jim님이 먼저 게시:

Lots of verses in The Bible suggest that God does not have foreknowledge. Here's just one:


If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

Yeah, the Bible tends to contradict itself. But apologists usually ignore the part they don't like at that particular moment. God is at the same time all knowing and not all knowing, just what the current argument demands.

[Fajita Jim]

Stingray_tm님이 먼저 게시:

Fajita Jim님이 먼저 게시:

Lots of verses in The Bible suggest that God does not have foreknowledge. Here's just one:


If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

Yeah, the Bible tends to contradict itself. But apologists usually ignore the part they don't like at that particular moment. God is at the same time all knowing and not all knowing, just what the current argument demands.

It's worse in Hebrew. He literally says "if they repent, I'll think about it."

[apathy]

Crusader (Banned5x)님이 먼저 게시:

There's nothing contradictory or illogical about being all-powerful, all-knowing, and benevolent. Maybe if you can present a case why you believe they are I can at least see your perspective.

Then you don't understand the paradoxes that arise with the word "omni". Most Christians I spoke to in the past, who cared about what they believed, avoided the terms, simply stating god was the most powerful, not all-powerful. That god would like all to come to repentance, but is unable to bring all to reconciliation. That god didn't want robots, but is unable to make another god like himself for companionship.

Truth makes right, not might.

You follow him for his power and status, not for his "integrity" or "inability to lie". An uncomfortable fact of life is many people do willingly follow tyrants, because they love their power, and would give anything to be them.

It seems you can't accept the idea of the Biblical God because worshiping and obeying Him would mean setting your own ego and desires aside, which is too much for you to do.

Embracing existential nihilism and realizing the universe is nothing but meaningless chaos, has already set my own ego aside. I have suffered ego death already. You're on a slippery slope too, because Buddhists set their own desires aside, and they don't believe in your favourite brand of tribal desert god.

Maybe you've had negative experience with people associated with Christianity, and that contributes as well.

There are many horrible Christians running around, yes, you would label them as "false Christians", probably. Problem for you is they make up the vast majority of Christians. To quote the wide road to destruction.

Misunderstanding God, then rejecting Him out of anger is what started my journey, and opened my eyes to our spiritual reality. We could argue back and forth, but I'm not interested in that. The Lord did say few would make it, and I've made my peace with that. No use trying to make a liar out of Him and convince every single human on earth; it'll never work.

Dude, he directly killed 2.3 million people in the Bible. Ask him yourself if you're truly in communion with him and not full of BS. He's proud of it.

[Stingray_tm]

apathy님이 먼저 게시:

Then you don't understand the paradoxes that arise with the word "omni". Most Christians I spoke to in the past, who cared about what they believed, avoided the terms, simply stating god was the most powerful, not all-powerful. That god would like all to come to repentance, but is unable to bring all to reconciliation. That god didn't want robots, but is unable to make another god like himself for companionship.

Yep. I still don't have seen proof for that assertion that a God exists in the first place, but the version described by you makes a lot more sense and is internally more consistent. it is not the God that is described in the Bible, though. Which is why many Christians (like most Catholics) are not Biblical literalists. The Bible makes no internal sense.

[Shadow]

Yes. Which is why we always say "fear God" "fear the wrath of God" "fear His judgement" etc, we don't say the same for Lucifer. God ain't merciful, on the day of judgement everyone will have to stand before Him and beg not to be thrown into hell.

[Not Big Surprise]

Grynn님이 먼저 게시:

Doesn't matter.

You can kill anyone you want so long as you have the moral high-ground, and God will always have the moral high-ground.

this is a rather concerning mindset

[Fajita Jim]

Stingray_tm님이 먼저 게시:

apathy님이 먼저 게시:

Then you don't understand the paradoxes that arise with the word "omni". Most Christians I spoke to in the past, who cared about what they believed, avoided the terms, simply stating god was the most powerful, not all-powerful. That god would like all to come to repentance, but is unable to bring all to reconciliation. That god didn't want robots, but is unable to make another god like himself for companionship.

Yep. I still don't have seen proof for that assertion that a God exists in the first place, but the version described by you makes a lot more sense and is internally more consistent. it is not the God that is described in the Bible, though. Which is why many Christians (like most Catholics) are not Biblical literalists. The Bible makes no internal sense.

I mean, everything God in the Bible creates rebels. Even the Angels. Hmmm...

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

Yes...

If this supposed god created "EVERYTHING" then this god is responsible for suffering and death and evil being a thing in the first place.

Otherwise, it would not be a "perfect being".

[Polski_Gnom]

Grug님이 먼저 게시:

Probably. I'm sure some butthurt atheist will chime in and answer.

Dear friend we shouldnt use bad words and we are called to love and respect each other, not to call each other badly, there is nothing fullfiling in it, it will only lead you to destruction of others or yourself♥️✝️

[sandokanski]

I don't believe in the supernatural, but if you assume it's real why would Satan kill people? People will die anyway. Longer life, more sins, higher probability to get in hell. But also, why am I assuming Satan knows math? It's written nowhere.

It's a paradox. I'm back to not believing in supernatural.