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Dwolfin May 13, 2024 @ 7:56am
The Abyss of VRChat
Recently, my jump into VRChat has unveiled a disconcerting truth: it's a breeding ground for toxicity, capable of ensnaring individuals and plunging them into a deep abyss. Many users seem to forsake their real lives in favor of the virtual realm, leading them into perilous rabbit holes.

Consider this basic chemistry: individuals with loneliness, touch starvation, toxic behavior, and the cloak of anonymity. This volatile mix creates a host of disturbing activities, including grooming, excessive virtual intimacy to assuage the longing for physical contact, abusive relationships, inflated egos, emotional manipulation (particularly targeting underage individuals), threats, racism, and needless drama.

Moreover, while one might argue that similar issues plague various corners of the internet, such as the notorious "discord kittenry," my firm conviction is that VRChat serves as a far worse place of heightened levels of toxicity. It fosters a deceptive sense of longing, luring individuals into a virtual world where mind tricks such as phantom touch amplifies their longing for connection. This phenomenon has earned VRChat the unenviable reputation of a "degenerative cesspool," a title it tragically lives up to. The proliferation of minors within the game is particularly troubling, with some falling prey to manipulative tactics like love bombing, which I have seen with my very eyes. One guy will love bomb an underage individual, buttering them up until ultimately leading them into a private world where you can imagine what comes next. As an outsider seeking genuine friendships, navigating VRChat feels akin to searching for a needle in a haystack. The platform predominantly attracts a specific demographic of eboys, egirls, predators, manipulators and similar personas, rendering it increasingly challenging to find authentic connections worth pursuing. In the end, the effort expended in VRChat often fails to yield meaningful connections and instead exposes players to a murky world of toxicity, weirdos, and other sorts of infamous players, pointing out the importance of caution and discernment when considering even playing the game.

Finding a good funny, fun player to be around is rare, the others spam loud music, or meme avatars that are stale on arrival. A mass amount of the community in this game are mirror dwellers, making server counts pointless, as even if the numbers are large in a server the majority of them will be anti social and stare at themeselves in a mirror for centuries, staring at themselves as an act of intoxicating escapism.

In conclusion, many aspects of VRChat can be an intoxicating cesspool of horrendous acts, its a horrendous abyss that eats many individuals and if you are in the wrong headspace, it could even consume you.
Last edited by Dwolfin; May 13, 2024 @ 8:11am
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Aikiu May 13, 2024 @ 8:01am 
There are alot of videos about that lol
I only mess in there with a few of my friends in a private world and yeah since I know how many creeps I can find in public worlds.
Dwolfin May 13, 2024 @ 8:08am 
Originally posted by Hater of the world:
There are alot of videos about that lol
I only mess in there with a few of my friends in a private world and yeah since I know how many creeps I can find in public worlds.
Yeah it really is a cesspool, it can be great fun when you have the friends, if you are looking for friends then its quite a significant challenge and the majority you likely wont want to make acquaintances with at all. Its a shame really.
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Chaosolous May 13, 2024 @ 8:09am 
People bein' people?

Oh God! The humanity of it all!

Turrebull. Just turrebull.
Dwolfin May 13, 2024 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by Chaosolous:
People bein' people?

Oh God! The humanity of it all!

Turrebull. Just turrebull.
Well its not people being people, its people being toxic people. I dont think you got the point of the entire thing.
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jahpeg May 13, 2024 @ 9:03am 
imagine this, you're a meek fourteen year-old kid and you're not really having a good time in school, bullying has made you lonely and miserable, so in a desperate attempt to connect with someone you turn to the internet and end up discovering vrchat where everyone's as much of an outcast as you. you're like, "yeah, finally i can make some friends," only to fall in with adult men talking about how "boys make the best girls" and how much they wish it was possible to get boys pregnant, you get exposed to all kinds of weird ass porn by adult men, you get asked for pictures by adult men, and all that's just the beginning

vrchat is an absolute hellscape of discord, twitter and tumblr culture combined where it's groom or be groomed, just more proof (as if it were needed) that you shouldn't ever let your children on the internet
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Dwolfin May 13, 2024 @ 10:22am 
Originally posted by jahpeg:
imagine this, you're a meek fourteen year-old kid and you're not really having a good time in school, bullying has made you lonely and miserable, so in a desperate attempt to connect with someone you turn to the internet and end up discovering vrchat where everyone's as much of an outcast as you. you're like, "yeah, finally i can make some friends," only to fall in with adult men talking about how "boys make the best girls" and how much they wish it was possible to get boys pregnant, you get exposed to all kinds of weird ass porn by adult men, you get asked for pictures by adult men, and all that's just the beginning

vrchat is an absolute hellscape of discord, twitter and tumblr culture combined where it's groom or be groomed, just more proof (as if it were needed) that you shouldn't ever let your children on the internet
Absolutely you couldnt bes speaking any truer words sir. This place si capable of the worst, and its easier than discord, its easier that twitter, easier than them all through the vices given to you in vrchat. Very capable of terrible things.
Sixtyfivekills May 13, 2024 @ 10:24am 
What's the actual gameplay of VR Chat though? I mean yeah, the name suggests its "chat", but it has to be more than just bunch of avatars in a room, right?


I wonder if fighting is possible at all.
Hammer Of Evil May 13, 2024 @ 10:29am 
re: vrchat, its just a bunch of kids talking smack because they know you can't reach across the table and give them the slap of the century 🤣

ssdd, its just, the application is made for people who want e-socializing but dont want to/can't game.

but yea, can agree with all your points, tbh. cant refute anything there.



Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:
What's the actual gameplay of VR Chat though? I mean yeah, the name suggests its "chat", but it has to be more than just bunch of avatars in a room, right?


I wonder if fighting is possible at all.

i dont think it has object collision, you'd have to design a map with a pretty heavy plugin to put all that stuff in there (point registers/calcs/boundaries/etcetc)

the application itself is already pretty bogged down by itself, and fairly inefficient when i last had a peek at the undercarriage ages ago.

i'm not sure but i think 'second life' has a higher framerate, thats really lowering the bar though lol 😅 (disclosure: i only know about second life due to a meme posted by a guy who trolled some germans extremely hard, morrowind graphics meets mmo sims in first person)
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ナルゴ May 13, 2024 @ 11:01am 
Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:
What's the actual gameplay of VR Chat though? I mean yeah, the name suggests its "chat", but it has to be more than just bunch of avatars in a room, right?


I wonder if fighting is possible at all.
It's a virtual hangout/bar. Some maps have games and objectives. But most of them are just for facilitating social interaction.
Used to join media worlds and watch anime with random people in vrchat.
TwisterCat May 13, 2024 @ 11:03am 
So? What, exactly? I doubt anybody here is a stranger to toxicity. How many people play League of Legends on a daily basis? What about CS:GO? Nothing new under the sun.

Say something interesting *pokes you with stick.*
Psycho May 13, 2024 @ 11:05am 
second life is even worse. (SL is a super old virtual chat room game)
livinggg May 13, 2024 @ 11:11am 
Originally posted by Dwolfin:
Originally posted by Chaosolous:
People bein' people?

Oh God! The humanity of it all!

Turrebull. Just turrebull.
Well its not people being people, its people being toxic people. I dont think you got the point of the entire thing.

It's only toxic if you observe it. If their behavior forces you to observe it, then you could say they are toxic, but as it is, your choice to observe it and judge them makes you toxic by your own standard.
I spent a few hours on there and was trying to figure out why so many grown-ass men were running around as scantly-clad underaged anime children.

Hell, the furry cringe was tame in comparison to the weird guys with underage anime girl avatars literally freaking everywhere.

It's not often something can creep me out, but VRchat managed to make me NOPE the hell out of there. :MMForFun:
Dwolfin May 24, 2024 @ 12:37am 
Originally posted by Sir Dookface McFerretballs:
I spent a few hours on there and was trying to figure out why so many grown-ass men were running around as scantly-clad underaged anime children.

Hell, the furry cringe was tame in comparison to the weird guys with underage anime girl avatars literally freaking everywhere.

It's not often something can creep me out, but VRchat managed to make me NOPE the hell out of there. :MMForFun:
You dont know what I have seen... I hadnt even seen half the rabbit hole, but I knew it was time to never play the game ever again.
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