Fatphobia

[Arvaos]

How do you feel about fat people?

Do you think mandatory exercise by law is fatphobic or do you promote fat people?

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Mandatory exercise doesn`t help anyone when your countries entire food culture is tied to making people as fat as possible for maximum profit.

[DoomsDay]

grooming is bad, a balanced and reasonable diet is good.

[76561199676067268]

Idk how can you even post this without facepalming yourself across the room and back. But I kinda like that this is a thing, because it makes it even more obvious how bonkers the whole thing is.

[Triple G]

I guess most fat people feel bad about themselves to begin with, except they have reached a certain age and don´t care any more. I have no opinion. If You want a partner who is good in shape, You probably care for Yourself and see that You´re good in shape as well, also else certain activities could be difficult and no fun. I personally wouldn´t promote fat people, and they can do whatever they want to do - but i´m not really into fat people either. While i´d see a different in being a bit out of shape, like a bit overweight - or being fat.

Mandatory exercise by law can´t happen, as there would always be exceptions - but it probably couldn´t harm if the people had free access to gyms - instead of paying a monthly fee in some 24 months contract.

[Shlim Sady]

Messaggio originale di Arvaos:

How do you feel about fat people?

Do you think mandatory exercise by law is fatphobic or do you promote fat people?

This is inherently flawed.

It's not a binary stance of "I think exercise should be enforced by law" or "I think we should promote being fat"

The same way it's not "Smoking should be illegal" or "I smoke 25 cigarettes a day"

These are extremist, bipolar views that resort to very strange, extreme views. It's not a black and white issue- rarely anything is.

I think everyone should be able to do what they want with their own bodies as long as it doesn't impose on other people. Education is key. Let people buy cigarettes- but in Canada and other places, they have warning labels directly on the box depicting what it typically results in.

This is why there's Physical Education in most schools. Also, so many people have misconceptions about how they gain weight.

Messaggio originale di https://www.calculator.net/bmr-calculator.html:

The basal metabolic rate (BMR) is the amount of energy needed while resting in a temperate environment when the digestive system is inactive. It is the equivalent of figuring out how much gas an idle car consumes while parked. In such a state, energy will be used only to maintain vital organs, which include the heart, brain, kidneys, nervous system, intestines, liver, lungs, sex organs, muscles, and skin. For most people, upwards of ~70% of total energy (calories) burned each day is due to upkeep. Physical activity makes up ~20% of expenditure and ~10% is used for the digestion of food, also known as thermogenesis.

From my own experience, you don't need to exercise rigorously. You simply eat less than your body burns, causing your body to use your stored energy instead of what you've ingested. This makes you lose weight- the inverse makes you gain.

It's about education- not weird overbearing extremes. Teach people how and why it happens in school, show them how to count calories, etc. People who make informed decisions make better decisions. The same way people used to smoke cigarettes, 45% of American adults in 1949, before they found out about all of the adverse health effects. Now, adult cigarette smokers in the United States more recently, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the adult smoking rate hit a historic low of 11.5% in 2021.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMzjJjuxQI

It's about education- not law

[Sixtyfivekills]

It makes me want to play a tuba while following one.

[Electric Cupcake]

All I will say is that the controversy over the Bluey Exercise episode is complete bullcrap.

[ƝՕϹ]

I would never want to mandate exercise in most cases, I think people should be allowed to destroy themselves or exist in a state of physical weakness if they choose to. As long as they don't special treatment over healthy people. If someone doesn't care about something, you can't make them want to care about it long-term.

The only time I can think of that it is okay to mandate exercise is if you are enlisted in the army or have some kind of mountain climbing related job.

[D. Flame]

Being fat is unhealthy, but everyone's health should be their own decision.

[SvarogX]

Messaggio originale di Arvaos:

How do you feel about fat people?

Do you think mandatory exercise by law is fatphobic or do you promote fat people?

I respect individuals' choices regarding their body weight; it is their personal decision. However, I find it problematic that I have to contribute a substantial amount to mandatory insurance each month, which also funds the treatment of lifestyle-related health issues. This concern about the economic impact of lifestyle diseases is legitimate and worth discussing.

Your question is problematic because it presents a false dichotomy, forcing us to choose between supporting mandatory exercise laws or promoting obesity. It's important to acknowledge that there are alternative solutions to address this issue. For instance, promoting healthy lifestyles through education and community support can be far more effective and less intrusive.

To address obesity, I support initiatives like providing healthy food in schools, funding fitness and sports clubs to make exercise accessible to everyone, and implementing yearly health checks for all citizens. Additionally, healthcare providers should be encouraged to proactively address obesity with their patients rather than ignoring it.

I also believe that individuals who engage in higher-risk behaviors, such as smoking or excessive drinking, should contribute more to their insurance costs, similar to what is proposed for obesity. This approach aligns with the principle of personal responsibility and fairness in public health financing (CDC, 2021; WHO, 2020).

Overall, we need a comprehensive approach that promotes health and well-being without resorting to punitive measures or oversimplified choices.

Sources:

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). (2021). "Obesity and Overweight." Link
World Health Organization (WHO). (2020). "Obesity and overweight." Link

[SvarogX]

Messaggio originale di Shlim Sady:

Messaggio originale di Arvaos:

How do you feel about fat people?

Do you think mandatory exercise by law is fatphobic or do you promote fat people?

This is inherently flawed.

It's not a binary stance of "I think exercise should be enforced by law" or "I think we should promote being fat"

The same way it's not "Smoking should be illegal" or "I smoke 25 cigarettes a day"

These are extremist, bipolar views that resort to very strange, extreme views. It's not a black and white issue- rarely anything is.

I think everyone should be able to do what they want with their own bodies as long as it doesn't impose on other people. Education is key. Let people buy cigarettes- but in Canada and other places, they have warning labels directly on the box depicting what it typically results in.

This is why there's Physical Education in most schools. Also, so many people have misconceptions about how they gain weight.

Messaggio originale di https://www.calculator.net/bmr-calculator.html:

The basal metabolic rate (BMR) is the amount of energy needed while resting in a temperate environment when the digestive system is inactive. It is the equivalent of figuring out how much gas an idle car consumes while parked. In such a state, energy will be used only to maintain vital organs, which include the heart, brain, kidneys, nervous system, intestines, liver, lungs, sex organs, muscles, and skin. For most people, upwards of ~70% of total energy (calories) burned each day is due to upkeep. Physical activity makes up ~20% of expenditure and ~10% is used for the digestion of food, also known as thermogenesis.

From my own experience, you don't need to exercise rigorously. You simply eat less than your body burns, causing your body to use your stored energy instead of what you've ingested. This makes you lose weight- the inverse makes you gain.

It's about education- not weird overbearing extremes. Teach people how and why it happens in school, show them how to count calories, etc. People who make informed decisions make better decisions. The same way people used to smoke cigarettes, 45% of American adults in 1949, before they found out about all of the adverse health effects. Now, adult cigarette smokers in the United States more recently, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the adult smoking rate hit a historic low of 11.5% in 2021.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMzjJjuxQI

It's about education- not law

It's not about enforcing exercise by law or promoting obesity. Like smoking, which isn't illegal but comes with strong warnings, we need a balanced approach. People should make their own choices as long as they don't harm others. Education is key. Schools have PE classes, and we need to teach proper nutrition and calorie counting. Informed decisions lead to better health outcomes. For instance, smoking rates dropped from 45% in 1949 to 11.5% in 2021 due to increased awareness (CDC). Let's focus on education and accessible health programs instead of extreme measures.

Sources:

CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p1109-cigarette-smoking.html
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-eating-plate/
WHO: https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and-overweight

[craigsters]

The satisfied full hunger pill wont be invented Any time soon and as long as cheap fast food restaurants are around, there well be people with eating disorders

I've seen people get Gastric bypass surgery and they fall back into there old eating routine and gain the weight back

[Arvaos]

Messaggio originale di Noc:

I would never want to mandate exercise in most cases, I think people should be allowed to destroy themselves or exist in a state of physical weakness if they choose to. As long as they don't special treatment over healthy people. If someone doesn't care about something, you can't make them want to care about it long-term.

The only time I can think of that it is okay to mandate exercise is if you are enlisted in the army or have some kind of mountain climbing related job.

What about something focused on calisthenics and walking?

Examples include:

1. Japan: The government promotes "Rajio Taisō" (radio calisthenics), a set of exercises broadcast on national radio and TV. These exercises have been part of daily routines for many since the 1920s.

2. South Korea: The government has introduced various initiatives to promote exercise, including mandatory physical education classes in schools and workplace fitness programs.

3. Singapore: The "National Steps Challenge" encourages citizens to increase their daily step count through incentives and competitions.

4. Finland: Finland's government has integrated physical activity into everyday life through urban planning and public health campaigns, promoting activities like cycling and walking.

5. China: The Chinese government promotes physical activity through national fitness campaigns and public exercise sessions, especially among the elderly.

[Mauserich]

I pity fat people and feel sorry for them. If the opportunity arises, I give subtle tips on nutrition and sport, motivation or not to compensate for stress with food intake. I am glad that I am not fat.

Media campaigns that call on people to tolerate being fat are fatal for their health. Being fat is a huge health risk, a huge loss of quality of life, an immense waste of food and money and creates immense social costs for health insurance.

[TGC> The Games Collector]

Mandatory gym alone won't help. People also need to eat halal.