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New Assassin's Creed game finally happening in JAPAN! Though...
The trailer for the new Assassin's Creed game just dropped!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vovkzbtYBC8



Wait a minute...




Something seems "off" in the trailer that I can't quite place my finger on...




Anyway...




Who's excited...




For the comments section? :steamhappy:
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Yes, but Ezio was in Italy....you can't be a "White savior" if you're a White guy in a White country....lol.

While it's not the same as the Far Cry games where an "American" man liberates minorities and third world countries, it is rewriting the history.

Similar to what Ubisoft are doing here with Yasuke.

I don't think there's any issue with it as it's historical fiction and the have been many stories of white men in foreign lands.

The Last Samurai and Shogun for example.
Sure, but "American" doesn't mean White. In Far Cry 2, you had your pick of multiple protagonists, including non-White ones. Far Cry 4 was, as you said, a native. Far Cry 5 takes place in the US and Far Cry 6 had a brown protagonist. Also, sorry to nit pick, but such people are not "minorities". White people are one of the smallest racial groups in the world, so the "minorities" term has never made sense.
What next? A black Chinese Emperor? or a Black Soviet agent?
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While it's not the same as the Far Cry games where an "American" man liberates minorities and third world countries, it is rewriting the history.

Similar to what Ubisoft are doing here with Yasuke.

I don't think there's any issue with it as it's historical fiction and the have been many stories of white men in foreign lands.

The Last Samurai and Shogun for example.
Sure, but "American" doesn't mean White. In Far Cry 2, you had your pick of multiple protagonists, including non-White ones. Far Cry 4 was, as you said, a native. Far Cry 5 takes place in the US and Far Cry 6 had a brown protagonist. Also, sorry to nit pick, but such people are not "minorities". White people are one of the smallest racial groups in the world, so the "minorities" term has never made sense.

Perhaps the term American saviour complex is the term to use if we're nitpicking.

Far Cry 1 to 6 features American protagonists despite the franchise visiting different continents across the globe.

How about Assassins Creed: Revelations? The Italian Ezio Auditore travels to Constantinople and puts to rest the conflict between two sons of the Sultan.

I really don't see how that is any different than a black man travelling to Japan and resolving conflicts between warring shoguns.

Generally speaking, when Americans enter regions of conflict, they usually make things worse.

While they aren't minorities in the global sense, they are minorities in the developed "First World" which is the target market and audience of these games.

Canada: Approximately 72% of the population identifies as white.
France: Roughly 85% of the population identifies as white.
Germany: Around 80% of the population identifies as white.
Italy: Over 90% of the population identifies as white.
Japan: Nearly 98% of the population identifies as Japanese.
United Kingdom: Approximately 86% of the population identifies as white.
United States: Roughly 60% of the population identifies as white.
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What next? A black Chinese Emperor? or a Black Soviet agent?

How about the whitewashing in these films? Did you complain when they came out?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film
Fans have been asking for an AC game in feudal Japan for a while. Surprised it finally came.

Though I have zero desire to support Ubisoft in recent times.
Ghost of Tsushima and Rise of the Ronin beat Assassin's Creed. They should remake Assassin's Creed 1 and 2.
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The trailer for the new Assassin's Creed game just dropped!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vovkzbtYBC8



Wait a minute...




Something seems "off" in the trailer that I can't quite place my finger on...




Anyway...




Who's excited...




For the comments section? :steamhappy:

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Perhaps the term American saviour complex is the term to use if we're nitpicking.
I think that's both appropriate and accurate, yes.

How about Assassins Creed: Revelations? The Italian Ezio Auditore travels to Constantinople and puts to rest the conflict between two sons of the Sultan.
Little bit of a grey area. White people were represented in Constantinople and there are many people of Greek descent in Turkey today.

I really don't see how that is any different than a black man travelling to Japan and resolving conflicts between warring shoguns.
It's far more of a stark contrast, but I get you.

Generally speaking, when Americans enter regions of conflict, they usually make things worse.
No argument there, fully agree.

While they aren't minorities in the global sense, they are minorities in the developed "First World" which is the target market and audience of these games.

Canada: Approximately 72% of the population identifies as white.
France: Roughly 85% of the population identifies as white.
Germany: Around 80% of the population identifies as white.
Italy: Over 90% of the population identifies as white.
Japan: Nearly 98% of the population identifies as Japanese.
United Kingdom: Approximately 86% of the population identifies as white.
United States: Roughly 60% of the population identifies as white.
True, but that's only a contextual minority and one that's rapidly growing while the White population shrinks rapidly. And in Canada, the UK, the US, the overwhelming majority of births are from POC - I wouldn't be surprised if it's like that in the rest of the countries (except Japan, obviously). So, as a result, I wouldn't even apply the term to the US, especially when the US lumps in people from MENA as White, even if they are visibly brown.
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What next? A black Chinese Emperor? or a Black Soviet agent?

How about the whitewashing in these films? Did you complain when they came out?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film
I wasn't even born back then.

Besides, two wrongs don't cancel each other:

You can't do blackwashing for Industries under the guise of diversity just because of earlier examples of whitewashing.

You can't vaporize thousands of Japanese civilians with Nuclear bombs because of the earlier Pear Harbor attack.

You can't goad the crowds to be bisexual starting from childhood just because of earlier oppression on Trans people.


Is it THAT HARD to understand what we are saying? (almost all of the contributers here share this view)
I'm done with Assassins Creeds.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Monnsteri; 16 Μαϊ 2024, 3:35
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He was, however, not a samurai.
Good thing creative liberty exists.
Yes i agree and i am all for creative liberty, but both you and i know why we have a black dude and a strong female shinobi while the native Japanese population will be portrayed as warmongering evil barbarian male driven society. The Japanese cultural adviser working with Ubisoft is a raging feminist. This is just blatant racism and very, very disrespectfull to the Japanese people and culture.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από PinkPanzer; 16 Μαϊ 2024, 3:44
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What next? A black Chinese Emperor? or a Black Soviet agent?
hey as long as they don't make oda nobunaga black american guy or something, we japanese don't give ♥♥♥♥.... hell even then we might not even care

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Good thing creative liberty exists.
Yes i agree and i am all for creative liberty, but both you and i know why we have a black dude and a strong female shinobi while the native Japanese population will be portrayed as warmongering evil barbarian male driven society. The Japanese cultural adviser working with Ubisoft is a raging feminist. This is just blatant racism and very, very disrespectfull to the Japanese people and culture.
strong female shinobi? we japanese already made something similar in manga anyway, and that manga has barbarian male doods and whatever as well. while i do think that raging feminazis that forgot their origin should not even have a job as an advisor, you can't possibly disrespect us for something we have already done ourselves lmao
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από hi friends; 16 Μαϊ 2024, 20:40
is this game run on a 6090? with some type of 96 core cpu or what?
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