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Dungeon Crawler (Zbanowany) 19 kwietnia 2020 o 19:02
Will cat girls really exist?
Elon Musk said that they are getting closer and closer to making it a reality. ARE you excited?
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🐠🍑 2 lutego 2021 o 16:50 
Also thank you for sharing this heartwarming video. I will be sure to mention papa Elon in my nightly prayer 4 catgirls.
crunchyfrog 2 lutego 2021 o 23:05 
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why not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU0g-WcYcz0

I am concerned that he has lost focus. I'm worried he's smoking too much weed because he's been busy with that vidya game playing monkey. Elon needs to log off twatter, put down the bong, and get back in the Tesla™ catgirl research lab.

Catgirls will be the biggest scientific breakthrough of the 21st century and if anyone can make it a reality, Elon can.

Thing is, he hasn't "lost focus".

He's always been like this. Go look up some simple wiki or something on his history.

He got famous/rich due to creatinga piece of software that facilitated online payments, which was bought by Payapl and so on.

All his talent is PURELY in coding. He also funds these ventures with other people's money. He's good at that too.

But the issue is people LOVE to idolize and think that because he's involved with things like SpaceX, he's some sort of poly-genius. He isn't.

As far as his knowledge of science goes, he's WOEFULLY ignorant. He makes loads of stupid ♥♥♥♥ up and always has done. Part of this might be WHY he has had success in getting funding as he can talk the talk.

But it's wrong to say he's now lost focus. He's always been like this.
Is OP perma-banned?
God, I wish they do.
crunchyfrog 2 lutego 2021 o 23:30 
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Is OP perma-banned?
Not sure, and we're not going to be able to find out for certain.

He has been banned some time though - a few weeks to my knowledge so it is safe to say that he's repeatedly been a naughty boy to have escalated to that long of a ban.
🐠🍑 2 lutego 2021 o 23:40 
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I am concerned that he has lost focus. I'm worried he's smoking too much weed because he's been busy with that vidya game playing monkey. Elon needs to log off twatter, put down the bong, and get back in the Tesla™ catgirl research lab.

Catgirls will be the biggest scientific breakthrough of the 21st century and if anyone can make it a reality, Elon can.

But it's wrong to say he's now lost focus. He's always been like this.
Im not the biggest fan of him as a person either, but when the richest man on earth promises cat girls are the future it is a great step for what we all hope and dream of.

Im scared that vidya monke will distract elon from the cat girls. My theory is that elon tolerates by making grimes wear a bag over her head when they are in bed but i know he must dream of the catgirls and the glorious future a world with them holds.
crunchyfrog 2 lutego 2021 o 23:48 
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But it's wrong to say he's now lost focus. He's always been like this.
Im not the biggest fan of him as a person either, but when the richest man on earth promises cat girls are the future it is a great step for what we all hope and dream of.

Im scared that vidya monke will distract elon from the cat girls. My theory is that elon tolerates by making grimes wear a bag over her head when they are in bed but i know he must dream of the catgirls and the glorious future a world with them holds.

No I'm sorry, that's a logical fallacy.

Just because someone ehas money it doesnot make them possible to break the laws of physics, biology or whatever.

And again, he has a REALLY bad understanding of even basic science.

Having money just means you have money. I don't know why people think it gives people something extra. I've never understood that.
🐠🍑 2 lutego 2021 o 23:59 
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Im not the biggest fan of him as a person either, but when the richest man on earth promises cat girls are the future it is a great step for what we all hope and dream of.

Im scared that vidya monke will distract elon from the cat girls. My theory is that elon tolerates by making grimes wear a bag over her head when they are in bed but i know he must dream of the catgirls and the glorious future a world with them holds.

Just because someone ehas money it doesnot make them possible to break the laws of physics, biology or whatever.
What law of science says catgirls are not possible. Ha there is none.

Sometimes it takes someone with money and a dream to get things done even if they lack technical knowlege about catgirls that we real gamers have.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: 🐠🍑; 3 lutego 2021 o 0:05
crunchyfrog 3 lutego 2021 o 2:06 
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Just because someone ehas money it doesnot make them possible to break the laws of physics, biology or whatever.
What law of science says catgirls are not possible. Ha there is none.

Sometimes it takes someone with money and a dream to get things done even if they lack technical knowlege about catgirls that we real gamers have.

For a start I never said they weren't possible. I merely said that does not make them possible. There's a distinct difference.

One is saying a categorical "it's not possible" and one is saying "it hasn't been done yet". As I cannot know everything and know the future, this means I went with the "it hasn't been done yet".

And I'm afraid it is not possible currently. Simlpe biology as speciation does NOT work like this.

Boom. there you go. Corss breeding or "mixing" species can only ever happen from close neighbours (ie. species that haven't long bracnhed off from the "tree"). You can't jump across a load of different species and mix them together.

So no, I can absolutely state it is currently not possible at all.


However, the mistake here is thinking I have the burden of proof. I do not. I simply rather do not believe it IS possible as nobody has remotely demonstrated that.

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1mm0rtaL 3 lutego 2021 o 2:24 
I will believe and wait for this day:steamthumbsup:
TwisterCat 3 lutego 2021 o 2:27 
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I will believe and wait for this day:steamthumbsup:
NeonNyx 3 lutego 2021 o 2:54 
Most def
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However, the mistake here is thinking I have the burden of proof. ...
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I don't really think anyone here does have such burden.

"Burden of proof" is a concept meant for court-rooms & research labs.
(More-so court-rooms, as research sometimes utilizes strongly supported conjectures to further related subjects.)

It should also apply in situations of accusations but if that goes on for long enough, it'll just wind up in a court-room. (& half a dozen people will lose their jobs before that - this isn't such a situation, though.)


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One is saying a categorical "it's not possible" and one is saying "it hasn't been done yet". As I cannot know everything and know the future, this means I went with the "it hasn't been done yet". ...
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Yet in the very same post you contradict that statement with the following statement:
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You can't jump across a load of different species and mix them together. ...
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Either you're taking the stance of "I don't know" (with a "maybe" or "maybe not leaning), or you're simply taking the stance of "It's not possible". These two positions are mutually exclusive & yet both statements appear within your post.

If you want to argue strict semantics, you should at least endeavor to stay consistent about it.


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... it is a great step for what we all hope and dream of.
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I'm not really interested in people possibly creating "Apex" from the TV series "The Crossing", which is something that might happen if people start messing around with the vast unknowns in genetic alterations for recreational reasons.

(Though, more realistically to be of higher likelihood, they'd probably just create some people with degenerative illnesses & hopefully those genes wouldn't propagate into the general population & give large portions of future generations degenerative illnesses.)


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Do I have to explain with wrecking ball force why this is not only biologically unethical and very dangerous? Lets begin with the biologically unethical aspect. Cross species genetics in an uncontrolled manner, allowing for feline characteristics to be applied to human beings has so many risks, we do not and can not have the ability to know the trajectory of a human-feline hybrid. In attempts at doing this may result in deaths why? Because we have 46 chromosome cats have 38, trying to mix human DNA with feline DNA is dangerous, why? Lets say there is a virus that felines are able to catch e.g feline AIDS, there is not anything really preventing a virus from learning via evolution to cross that species barrier. Viruses often leave lasting genetic impressions on our DNA, and also pickup mutations from our DNA which either make it more successful or less. This may lead to creating a pandemic as worse COVID-19 or far worse.

Furthemore India tried to bring to dead back to life using stemcell researach yes you heard me right, they attempted to revive dead cells using stemcells the most disturbing part is it kind of worked, but fortunately cells knew they were dead, and just resumed the process of their slow death.


Genetic modification can be very very dangerous. People have already attempted normal human level genetic modification it was conducted in China in an attempt to make two children born to parents with AIDS, resistant to it. They do not know if it was successful, yet there is a nasty little fact that comes with the genetic modification made, the children will have a potentially higher mortality rate.


Unless you have a legitimate reason to modify a human being with cross species genetics it should not EVER be used for personal physical alterations outside of what a medical board would deem as ethical. There are billions of cells in our body all very fine-tuned molecular machinery if you disrupt it in anyway, you could even give people cancers felines can develop.

Japan approved the cross-species genetic research on LOW level genetics, in organs or tissues, there is no complex life research allowed, beyond maybe bacteria.

There is an old quote.


"Just because you can does not mean you should"

I mean, we don't know that we can, but those similar experiments, that have already been conducted, make it seem plausible.

Overall, your post is pretty much my point exactly but because I muse that it might be possible (specifically because I used that word "possible") in an informal discussion about the subject, I hear that I should "prove" it (which the only way to actually prove it - instead of just running on the conjecture of "probably possible" due to similar experiments with genetics - would be to actually attempt it. As you point out, this is a wholly irresponsible thing for people to attempt.)

Every advancement in science is because someone said "what if" about something previously considered impossible, thus allowing them the motivation to even attempt it, or because someone set out to prove something, that was unproven either way, and actually succeeded (or perhaps failed if they were trying to prove the opposite).

Some things are best left unknown, though.


:seewhatyoudid:
NeonNyx 3 lutego 2021 o 3:41 
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However, the mistake here is thinking I have the burden of proof. ...
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I don't really think anyone here does have such burden.

"Burden of proof" is a concept meant for court-rooms & research labs.
(More-so court-rooms, as research sometimes utilizes strongly supported conjectures to further related subjects.)

It should also apply in situations of accusations but if that goes on for long enough, it'll just wind up in a court-room. (& half a dozen people will lose their jobs before that - this isn't such a situation, though.)


Początkowo opublikowane przez crunchyfrog:
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One is saying a categorical "it's not possible" and one is saying "it hasn't been done yet". As I cannot know everything and know the future, this means I went with the "it hasn't been done yet". ...
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Yet in the very same post you contradict that statement with the following statement:
Początkowo opublikowane przez crunchyfrog:
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You can't jump across a load of different species and mix them together. ...
...

Either you're taking the stance of "I don't know" (with a "maybe" or "maybe not leaning), or you're simply taking the stance of "It's not possible". These two positions are mutually exclusive & yet both statements appear within your post.

If you want to argue strict semantics, you should at least endeavor to stay consistent about it.


Początkowo opublikowane przez C O R N:
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... it is a great step for what we all hope and dream of.
...

I'm not really interested in people possibly creating "Apex" from the TV series "The Crossing", which is something that might happen if people start messing around with the vast unknowns in genetic alterations for recreational reasons.

(Though, more realistically to be of higher likelihood, they'd probably just create some people with degenerative illnesses & hopefully those genes wouldn't propagate into the general population & give large portions of future generations degenerative illnesses.)


Początkowo opublikowane przez Product ∏:
Do I have to explain with wrecking ball force why this is not only biologically unethical and very dangerous? Lets begin with the biologically unethical aspect. Cross species genetics in an uncontrolled manner, allowing for feline characteristics to be applied to human beings has so many risks, we do not and can not have the ability to know the trajectory of a human-feline hybrid. In attempts at doing this may result in deaths why? Because we have 46 chromosome cats have 38, trying to mix human DNA with feline DNA is dangerous, why? Lets say there is a virus that felines are able to catch e.g feline AIDS, there is not anything really preventing a virus from learning via evolution to cross that species barrier. Viruses often leave lasting genetic impressions on our DNA, and also pickup mutations from our DNA which either make it more successful or less. This may lead to creating a pandemic as worse COVID-19 or far worse.

Furthemore India tried to bring to dead back to life using stemcell researach yes you heard me right, they attempted to revive dead cells using stemcells the most disturbing part is it kind of worked, but fortunately cells knew they were dead, and just resumed the process of their slow death.


Genetic modification can be very very dangerous. People have already attempted normal human level genetic modification it was conducted in China in an attempt to make two children born to parents with AIDS, resistant to it. They do not know if it was successful, yet there is a nasty little fact that comes with the genetic modification made, the children will have a potentially higher mortality rate.


Unless you have a legitimate reason to modify a human being with cross species genetics it should not EVER be used for personal physical alterations outside of what a medical board would deem as ethical. There are billions of cells in our body all very fine-tuned molecular machinery if you disrupt it in anyway, you could even give people cancers felines can develop.

Japan approved the cross-species genetic research on LOW level genetics, in organs or tissues, there is no complex life research allowed, beyond maybe bacteria.

There is an old quote.


"Just because you can does not mean you should"

I mean, we don't know that we can, but those similar experiments, that have already been conducted, make it seem plausible.

Overall, your post is pretty much my point exactly but because I muse that it might be possible (specifically because I used that word "possible") in an informal discussion about the subject, I hear that I should "prove" it (which the only way to actually prove it - instead of just running on the conjecture of "probably possible" due to similar experiments with genetics - would be to actually attempt it. As you point out, this is a wholly irresponsible thing for people to attempt.)

Every advancement in science is because someone said "what if" about something previously considered impossible, thus allowing them the motivation to even attempt it, or because someone set out to prove something, that was unproven either way, and actually succeeded (or perhaps failed if they were trying to prove the opposite).

Some things are best left unknown, though.


:seewhatyoudid:
I am quite disturbed at the fact that you wrote this whole thing over cat girls. Nice work mate
crunchyfrog 3 lutego 2021 o 3:43 
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However, the mistake here is thinking I have the burden of proof. ...
...

I don't really think anyone here does have such burden.

"Burden of proof" is a concept meant for court-rooms & research labs.
(More-so court-rooms, as research sometimes utilizes strongly supported conjectures to further related subjects.)

It should also apply in situations of accusations but if that goes on for long enough, it'll just wind up in a court-room. (& half a dozen people will lose their jobs before that - this isn't such a situation, though.)


Początkowo opublikowane przez crunchyfrog:
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One is saying a categorical "it's not possible" and one is saying "it hasn't been done yet". As I cannot know everything and know the future, this means I went with the "it hasn't been done yet". ...
...
Yet in the very same post you contradict that statement with the following statement:
Początkowo opublikowane przez crunchyfrog:
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You can't jump across a load of different species and mix them together. ...
...

Either you're taking the stance of "I don't know" (with a "maybe" or "maybe not leaning), or you're simply taking the stance of "It's not possible". These two positions are mutually exclusive & yet both statements appear within your post.

If you want to argue strict semantics, you should at least endeavor to stay consistent about it.


Początkowo opublikowane przez C O R N:
...
... it is a great step for what we all hope and dream of.
...

I'm not really interested in people possibly creating "Apex" from the TV series "The Crossing", which is something that might happen if people start messing around with the vast unknowns in genetic alterations for recreational reasons.

(Though, more realistically to be of higher likelihood, they'd probably just create some people with degenerative illnesses & hopefully those genes wouldn't propagate into the general population & give large portions of future generations degenerative illnesses.)


Początkowo opublikowane przez Product ∏:
Do I have to explain with wrecking ball force why this is not only biologically unethical and very dangerous? Lets begin with the biologically unethical aspect. Cross species genetics in an uncontrolled manner, allowing for feline characteristics to be applied to human beings has so many risks, we do not and can not have the ability to know the trajectory of a human-feline hybrid. In attempts at doing this may result in deaths why? Because we have 46 chromosome cats have 38, trying to mix human DNA with feline DNA is dangerous, why? Lets say there is a virus that felines are able to catch e.g feline AIDS, there is not anything really preventing a virus from learning via evolution to cross that species barrier. Viruses often leave lasting genetic impressions on our DNA, and also pickup mutations from our DNA which either make it more successful or less. This may lead to creating a pandemic as worse COVID-19 or far worse.

Furthemore India tried to bring to dead back to life using stemcell researach yes you heard me right, they attempted to revive dead cells using stemcells the most disturbing part is it kind of worked, but fortunately cells knew they were dead, and just resumed the process of their slow death.


Genetic modification can be very very dangerous. People have already attempted normal human level genetic modification it was conducted in China in an attempt to make two children born to parents with AIDS, resistant to it. They do not know if it was successful, yet there is a nasty little fact that comes with the genetic modification made, the children will have a potentially higher mortality rate.


Unless you have a legitimate reason to modify a human being with cross species genetics it should not EVER be used for personal physical alterations outside of what a medical board would deem as ethical. There are billions of cells in our body all very fine-tuned molecular machinery if you disrupt it in anyway, you could even give people cancers felines can develop.

Japan approved the cross-species genetic research on LOW level genetics, in organs or tissues, there is no complex life research allowed, beyond maybe bacteria.

There is an old quote.


"Just because you can does not mean you should"

I mean, we don't know that we can, but those similar experiments, that have already been conducted, make it seem plausible.

Overall, your post is pretty much my point exactly but because I muse that it might be possible (specifically because I used that word "possible") in an informal discussion about the subject, I hear that I should "prove" it (which the only way to actually prove it - instead of just running on the conjecture of "probably possible" due to similar experiments with genetics - would be to actually attempt it. As you point out, this is a wholly irresponsible thing for people to attempt.)

Every advancement in science is because someone said "what if" about something previously considered impossible, thus allowing them the motivation to even attempt it, or because someone set out to prove something, that was unproven either way, and actually succeeded (or perhaps failed if they were trying to prove the opposite).

Some things are best left unknown, though.


:seewhatyoudid:

No burden of proff applies to ALL OF REALITY.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

It's basic philosophy. You're confusing it with the courtroom standard. While they are essentailly the same logic, that DOES NOT mean they are used exclusively in those realms.

Burden of proof, like all logic, is absolute. There is NOTHING it does not apply to in reality, always.

And someone DID say I had had to prove something. I was referring to and answering that point, so don't confuse that either.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: crunchyfrog; 3 lutego 2021 o 3:44
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