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I think there were around 8-12 people in his actual band ?
But due to his rank, he hada " Zug " with him which were a lot more people.
He played numerous instruments, guitar, trumpet and so on, unfortunately I suck at all instruments so I would not know all the names. But I think he could play most instruments pretty well.
He did not play so much in the military marching group, it was more about officer mess and such, music in pubs and such, when soldiers wanted to drink and have fun. The official songs he only played at the beginning, during the war no one wanted to hear this and you won't believe it, but he mostly played American Jazz/blues music, which was what the German soldiers wanted to hear the most.
Yes he performed as a PoW, in fact he had to perform. He was also allowed to leave the PoW camp and play for local civilians and soldiers in pubs to earn some extra coins. The Americans treated him super human and never felt like an enemy to him, he even taught U.S soldiers to play.
Yes, he kept being a musician after the war.
He unfortunately lived in East-Germany, so funny enough, they wanted him to get a new certificate to be allowed to work as a musician...its a joke really ! But yeah, he stuck to it until the day he died and my father learnt everything he knows about music from him
His band by the way, played also in the USSR during the 70s and 80s, his son, so my grandfather, met them in soviet Ukraine in some worker's camp, he was sent to as a German worker. Its funny, he greeted them and was surprised to see his fathers band playing, since his father retired.
I could probably write a book about all this and I eventually will.
And how do you know he's not a robot? He might be working for the King.
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That's true. I brought my wife flowers every single Friday. :) After awhile, I changed it up a bit and would pick up something different on Fridays. (Am now divorced, so I guess the whole "demonstrating love, affection, and thoughtfulness" thing didn't work so great? :))
On wounded - Yeah, I thought as much. And, yes, leaving wounded to the care of the "enemy" was a thing between professional militaries... Well, up to a point, because there were some one did not leave the wounded behind, for.
By all accounts, PoWs of the US generally had it much better than some others. Part of that was that they could be shipped overseas with little possibility of escaping and returning to combat. In many PoW camps in the US, PoWs were paroled daily to take up actually paying jobs (not at full rate, I don't think) in the nearby community. Some even volunteered for community projects - A street where I once lived had a wide median and the nearby German PoWs took up a "beautification" project for it. AFAIK, there was never a bad report of German PoWs in such parole programs where I used to live.
On wounded - I know they couldn't get shipped to Europe, but it just seemed nearly impossible to get a load of wounded to any nearby kind of catchment area that's suitable for further treatment. (I don't know enough about Africa, obviously. :)) I can certainly see being pressed and forced to leave the wounded behind for enemy medical teams to deal with. (PoW Medics were, AFAIK, treated well by both sides and Medics treated the injured in their care, regardless of their uniform as best as I understand it.)
Yeah I didn't even start that habit :D
Regarding the wounded, I assume you are right. But he was a musician so I truly don't know how they handled the wounded part in Africa. I know he became SUPER SICK at some point in Africa.
My other family members ,so my mother's side's grandparents or my grans brothers were all fighting in Europe not in Africa. Mostly eastern frontline. So the stories are completely different.
All I know is, ALL of my grandparents and great-grandparents only spoke in the highest tones about U.S soldiers. Every single one of them had only positive experiences with them.
They were very humane and respected us Germans to the core.
This is very different when it comes to Soviet soldiers and the British as well as the French.
You are welcome btw, I wish more people would ask decent questions.
Yup, I've heard that as well - Jazz was extremely popular on all fronts. :)
History dies if it is not written down.
This is a truism and we all do well to remember it. Nothing on the Internet is forever and it will ALL go away, eventually. A book is the most accessible, longest-lived, form of communication outside of stone tablets... Well, maybe safely stored bronze, but that's getting a bit fancy. :)
Stories that could be told of these experiences are priceless.
I listened to a remembered a German neighbor of mine's stories with something of that intent. Her family had it rough, as many Germans did at the height of the war. They got by on trading potatoes to soldiers and, then, making vodka out of them and trading that to whoever would trade.
In another place I lived, my neighbor was one of the first women who landed on the beach at Normandy. (General staff)
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana
He was talking about... libraries. :)
Man..I could tell you some stories.. its insane.
Now my wife is Ukrainian, so the stories expanded, now we have soviet and modern era UA stories, its crazy.
2. During which years did he serve? Was he in Poland, the Netherlands and France before he went to North Africa? Did he take part in Czechoslovakia before WWII?
3. Does he know Bert Kaempfert and/or Charly Tabor?
4. Did he play this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqelq9NfvxU
5. It has been said that on the arrival date of the Afrika Korps, the military vehicles went around in circles (around one or more blocks?) to make them look more numerous. Has your grandfather ever mentioned this?
6. What did he say about his Italian allies?
7. What did he say about the British/Australians and the Americans in North Africa?
hah, what is his opinion on "Entry of the gladiators", and what it's used for now?
1. He was married and had kids, but we are all certain he had numerous girlfriends outside of Germany.
2. He was right there in 39, invasion on Poland, France, Netherlands I don't know.
3. Maybe by hearing about them? But I don't think he met any of them.
4. I am 100% certain he did.
5. No. And it does not sound anything the German military would do.
6. I can't remember him ever mentioning Italians.
7. Nothing about Australians. He mentioned the British and Americans. He said the Brits did not treat him well while the Americans did treat him very well.
No, just a musician who happened to also become a musician during the war :)
I never heard him mentioning this song, keep in mind, I did not discuss particular songs with my grandfather, he was a musician, I mostly wanted to know about his experience during the war and read his diaries.
Its possible. I did not read it though.
interesting to hear a song I not yet knew..
there is a song that my dad remembered the germans singing in ww2.. that I never quite heared anywhere..
he offten metioned a strofe :
wir sind von k und von k infratrieregiment, wir sind heimmaster numbero EINZ
wir sind von k und von k infratrieregiment, wir sind heimmaster numbero EINZ
wir wollen weiter machieren uber der ganzer welt
heute geheurd uns Deutchland, morgen der ganzer welt.
das k&k song however if you find it today is some tiroler carnaval song..
how he remembered it is was a marching song..
the layer of dust they under is as thick as the sahara desert by now though, somewhere in the garage attic of my parents house.
With a bit of bad luck they been put in the same box as the US marine corps, fighting over the garage for almost 3 decades now.
The battlefront in North Africa moved back and forth in great distances multiple times. I heard that El Alamein was the furthest that the Afrika Korps and the Italian divisions reached into Egypt. Did your grandfather witness or hear about the British artillery barrage against the Afrika Korps at El Alamein? Britain's counterattack began after that. The Afrika Korps withdrew all the way to Tunisia.
If he was captured in 1944 or 1945, then he must've escaped to Europe before getting captured. The Axis forces in North Africa surrendered in 1943.
Was your grandfather's brother in Stalingrad? Where in the USSR did he get captured?
That reminds me of this movie...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YibBVIYwQWs
...and a documentary about the popularity of US and British jazz and culture in Germany during that time.
Did he talk about the USSR's occupation of eastern Germany during that war?