Is it me or has Bill Maher become more conservative and cliche lately?

[Iggy Wolf]

I swear, if the guy isn't constantly and incessantly complaining about "wokeness", then he's complaining about young people and using typical right-wing talking points in order to push his narrative, despite the fact that his show is SUPPOSED to be about calling out both sides. Sure, his "Politically Incorrect" show was cancelled back in 2002, but his current show "Real Time" has been going strong for 20+ years, so his little diatribe against "wokeness" comes off hollow and shallow since he hasn't been cancelled himself, and his "examples" of "wokeness" include the worst parts of Twitter and TikTok.

I mean, who gives a ♥♥♥♥ what a bunch of idiots say on Twitter and TikTok?! I've watched now comedians like Jon Stewart, John Oliver, and even Jimmy Dore. While I'm sure they themselves also have their own shortcomings, they at least are well aware that they're comedians and that their shows are mostly about COMEDY. I can only count on hand the number of times Bill has actually made me laugh lately, which means he's become a terrible comedian, which is ironic, because that's exactly what you're NOT supposed to do when your whole show and shtick is about comedy.

If anything, I would think as a comedian, he'd be MORE fair and considerate to his guests, since his opinion is supposed to be more neutral and less important than what his guests have to say. The recent segment with Jon Stewart and his two guests on the Israel-Palestine war was more funny and fair than whatever and whenever Bill has anyone one talking about the war. It's funny, but it seems like age has made Jon Stewart more wise and reasonable, while Bill Maher has become more bitter, annoying, "old man yelling at clouds", and full of himself.

I dare say he's become the antithesis of that which he always criticizes. Namely, people who are so rich they are now out of touch with the average man and even their own audience, that they believe their own hype and censor/shut down any opinions they disagree with. I'd dare say it's been a while since any of Bill's guests have been able to push back on his opinion/point of view without him either cutting them off or verbally shutting them down.

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Why would I still watch mainstream media? Its all Propaganda.

It was never more clear that its government propaganda than when trump was president and every last talk show host talked about him non-stop in a negative light, then during covid trying to get everyone to do what the government wants and get the shot and social distance, and right now with Israel, try to make up all these "crimes of atrocity", and try to cancel Tucker carlson for the simple crime of wanting to hear putin's side, and on and on and on.

These are not things a free society does. A free society is told the truth and can speak the truth, and not be canceled for wrong think.

HEAR!

The growing problem --- I can only speak for America --- is dishonesty. Ignorance is understandable and excusable. We're all ignorant to some degree. Ignorance is easily remedied.

But way too many people are not interested in Truth. They are free to dismiss any fact or logic for any reason. They simply do not respect Truth as a principle. It is of course an issue of philosophy... a lack of (legitimate) principles.

An ignorant man can be convinced of the truth; a dishonest man can not. He must change of his own accord before that can happen.

This, along with simple ignorance and lo-eye-queue, is I believe why a selection of Americans don't just swallow, but seem to thrive on everything the Propaganda Consortium releases.

[Haruspex]

Bill Maher hasn't gone right wing, just like lots of left-leaning Americans who reject the rise of woke ideology aren't suddenly right wing.

It's just that the spotlight is now on a certain extremely left segment of the left wing. A segment that was usually ignored, along with the extreme right wing. The extremes are being amplified, even though most people are closer to the center.

I lean left, and on the political left/right scale, I would find more in common with someone who leans right than I would with one of these extreme leftists, even if we are on opposite teams.

Bill Maher's show launched in 1993 called Politically Incorrect. That hasn't changed at all, it's just that political incorrectness is now considered "alt-right" by people so far to the left that everyone else seems far-right to them.

I believe there are efforts being made to purposefully divide us, because a divided America is easier to control than a unified one. They want you to pick a side. I say let's fight a different fight. It's not about left vs right. It's about extremism vs reason and nuance.

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Idk, i don't follow celebrities .....like at all...

I don't even know who the ♥♥♥♥ that even is

[Spencer]

Of all the worst takes, the claim Maher is anything other than a democrat control op is laughable.

Like Chomsky he may make noises of protests from time to time, but the end of the day they scream vote left.

The man is as big a sell out as they come, no different from Bill Burr. Maher went from "making women nod" antifeminism to becoming as politically correct as they come, its why he's been on big corporate media's payroll for decades now as the fakest controlled opposition around, just the new Carlin, midwit t**d wranglers.

[Spencer]

Escrito originalmente por Haruspex:

Bill Maher hasn't gone right wing, just like lots of left-leaning Americans who reject the rise of woke ideology aren't suddenly right wing.

It's just that the spotlight is now on a certain extremely left segment of the left wing. A segment that was usually ignored, along with the extreme right wing. The extremes are being amplified, even though most people are closer to the center.

I lean left, and on the political left/right scale, I would find more in common with someone who leans right than I would with one of these extreme leftists, even if we are on opposite teams.

Bill Maher's show launched in 1993 called Politically Incorrect. That hasn't changed at all, it's just that political incorrectness is now considered "alt-right" by people so far to the left that everyone else seems far-right to them.

I believe there are efforts being made to purposefully divide us, because a divided America is easier to control than a unified one. They want you to pick a side. I say let's fight a different fight. It's not about left vs right. It's about extremism vs reason and nuance.

There is no rejecting it, it is the logical extension of their ideology.

They can only cope at this fact.

He was never politically incorrect which is why he was on tv.

Division is natural once you have mass immigration and universal suffrage as divisions become real and everything becomes political.

Just look at this guy, he wore the Haiti is not a sh**hole shirt like the rest of them, and now the place has devolved into cannibalism, Maher is always obediently wrong when it matters to the regime.
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1766799823473156441

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Division is natural once you have mass immigration and universal suffrage as divisions become real and everything becomes political.

This is true, but the consequences of universal suffrage aren't simply "organic". The Leftist has been taking full advantage of full-on democracy * --- he is the very reason why the Founding Fathers did not create a republic in which every man has the right to vote simply for being born.

It has been known for millennia that democracy is taken advantage of by dishonest demagogues, and that is precisely what the Democrat is.

* Not to be confused with "direct democracy".

[Grimmz]

Escrito originalmente por Haruspex:

Bill Maher hasn't gone right wing, just like lots of left-leaning Americans who reject the rise of woke ideology aren't suddenly right wing.

It's just that the spotlight is now on a certain extremely left segment of the left wing. A segment that was usually ignored, along with the extreme right wing. The extremes are being amplified, even though most people are closer to the center.

I lean left, and on the political left/right scale, I would find more in common with someone who leans right than I would with one of these extreme leftists, even if we are on opposite teams.

Bill Maher's show launched in 1993 called Politically Incorrect. That hasn't changed at all, it's just that political incorrectness is now considered "alt-right" by people so far to the left that everyone else seems far-right to them.

I believe there are efforts being made to purposefully divide us, because a divided America is easier to control than a unified one. They want you to pick a side. I say let's fight a different fight. It's not about left vs right. It's about extremism vs reason and nuance.

thats really well said sir. i couldn't agree more.

we need more conversations. like tucker and cuomo said. like, what happened to just sitting down and talking? no scripts or anything, just left and right talking.

these days its just off the context clips on tv or twitter claims that are based on nothing.

we really need people to sit down more and have heart to heart conversations.

[Dracoco OwO]

Idk why my Dad watch him to begin with.

[craigsters]

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Last thing I seen him in the news he was fighting for a 9/11 first responders health bill and talking to congress and it getting passed and won for all those involved

[Worldzworstgamer]

Bill Maher is the enemy of the sane people still left out there.

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

He changes "sides" every few years depending on where pop culture seems to be going.

The only thing the dude has been consistent on is being a pothead, everything else depends on what day it is.

[Duck Twacy]

Most people become more conservative as they grow older. They find that there are just too many people willing to con them out of their money.

Bill Maher is an actor by trade. He's not a politician nor expert on anything in particular.

[Mr. Tex]

Maher has always represented moderate democrats. He is also a critical thinker, not a puppet or mouth-piece for the government or the mainstream media.

The democrats you see and hear on television today are the extremists, the activists. So anyone who is not an extremist is perceived as "right-wing" by these activists, even moderate democrats like Maher, because they are just not "left enough".

[Iggy Wolf]

Well, some of the responses here certainly indicate why he's become popular with conservatives and right wingers. It also shows why people have no idea what they're talking about when they criticize "leftists". If anything, I figured people would at least notice that he's changed his opinion on things depending on whether it personally affects him or not. As a poster above me pointed out, the only thing he might be consistent about is being a pothead. And maybe said pot rots his brain a little.

I still find it funny how anyone though can come away from watching Bill Maher and think that Democrats are extreme and leftists are radicals. He criticizes censorship and "wokeness" but that's not the same thing as criticizing Democratic policies or liberal ideas. Hell, if anything, he cheerleads for Joe Biden and consistently hates Trump.

The "anti-wokeness" is the only thing that makes him seem conservative, and that's simply because he uses conservative arguments regarding that. I feel some people here only hear and see what they want about him. At worst, he might be a Libertarian to some extent, but that's NOT the same thing as supporting Republican ideas. Also, I don't know how someone can compare Tucker Carlson to him. I'm pretty sure Bill probably considers him an idiot and a grifter.

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Escrito originalmente por Iggy Wolf:

Well, some of the responses here certainly indicate why he's become popular with conservatives and right wingers. It also shows why people have no idea what they're talking about when they criticize "leftists". If anything, I figured people would at least notice that he's changed his opinion on things depending on whether it personally affects him or not. As a poster above me pointed out, the only thing he might be consistent about is being a pothead. And maybe said pot rots his brain a little.

I still find it funny how anyone though can come away from watching Bill Maher and think that Democrats are extreme and leftists are radicals. He criticizes censorship and "wokeness" but that's not the same thing as criticizing Democratic policies or liberal ideas. Hell, if anything, he cheerleads for Joe Biden and consistently hates Trump.

The "anti-wokeness" is the only thing that makes him seem conservative, and that's simply because he uses conservative arguments regarding that. I feel some people here only hear and see what they want about him. At worst, he might be a Libertarian to some extent, but that's NOT the same thing as supporting Republican ideas. Also, I don't know how someone can compare Tucker Carlson to him. I'm pretty sure Bill probably considers him an idiot and a grifter.

You are immature and very likely are just an indoctrinated child. You don't seem to understand that mature adults evolve politically based on how policies and the zeitgeist affects them.

"Anti-woke" and "anti-cancel" isn't some evil right-wing grift (a word many people like yourself overuse and don't understand) but something that pretty much every at this point is supportive of and has been for a while. From many comedians, actors and even President Obama.

It seems more that you're taking an absolute position of liking someone only when they peddle every idea support and discarding them when they don't. That is an immature way of living like and shows you need to grow as a person.