WatchmenWakeUpOnYT 2023 年 12 月 14 日 下午 12:59
To the guys who thinks that christmas is christian
December 25 - Babylonian/Egyptian/Roman sun god birthdays
Christmas Gifts - Breaks the 10th commandment
Christmas trees - Breaks the 2nd commandment (Jeremiah 10:1-5 + Deuteronomy 16:21-22)
Santa Claus - Breaks the 1st commandment
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Dal420 2023 年 12 月 16 日 上午 7:19 
引用自 WatchmenWakeUpOnYT
Christmas is not a pagan holiday in the same way someone born in London today isn’t “Anglo Saxon”. Culture changes and adapts from other cultures. All because you weren’t the capital F first group to have a particular tradition doesn’t mean that tradition isn’t also yours
Mark 7:6-9
King James Version

6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Yeah, keep throwing out your meaningless Bible quote and ignoring everyone who makes a proper counter-argument against you.

I'm surprised you haven't given up yet.

Everyone sees through your bs.
Dal420 2023 年 12 月 16 日 上午 7:23 
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Pretty amazing that you can get banned on Steam for dropping a fart, yet some people are allowed to go on for days literally calling for the boycott of an entire religion.

I guess it's only okay because it's Catholicism/Christianity though, eh?

Try making a thread like this about the Muslim or Jewish religion.

Sick of double standards that only apply to politically motivated agendas.
Dal420 2023 年 12 月 16 日 上午 7:25 
And who's the clown that gave op a wholesome and mad scientist award? Why would you encourage someone like this?

I lose more interest in humanity on a daily basis.
Chunkster_Monki 2023 年 12 月 16 日 下午 12:56 
factually Christmas is a pagan holiday and it in now way represents Christ at all. The whole idea is a poncy scheme and Christians only say it to represent the birth so they don't feel bad about celebrating a pagan holiday. I on the other hand just enjoy the gift giving. I believe the only way to celebrate Christ is to take part in Passover and recognize his death and Resurrection.
The Impractical Engineer 2023 年 12 月 16 日 下午 3:35 
引用自 Chunkster_Monki
factually Christmas is a pagan holiday and it in now way represents Christ at all. The whole idea is a poncy scheme and Christians only say it to represent the birth so they don't feel bad about celebrating a pagan holiday. I on the other hand just enjoy the gift giving. I believe the only way to celebrate Christ is to take part in Passover and recognize his death and Resurrection.
And modern day Italians are ancient Roman’s amirite? Because it’s not like culture ever changes or adapts…
Electric Cupcake 2023 年 12 月 16 日 下午 3:38 
引用自 Chunkster_Monki
factually Christmas is a pagan holiday and it in now way represents Christ at all. The whole idea is a poncy scheme and Christians only say it to represent the birth so they don't feel bad about celebrating a pagan holiday. I on the other hand just enjoy the gift giving. I believe the only way to celebrate Christ is to take part in Passover and recognize his death and Resurrection.
And modern day Italians are ancient Roman’s amirite? Because it’s not like culture ever changes or adapts…

I love me some dona nobis pasta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eck_CFvsJjk

Though the Pig Latin joke falls flat, considering the Kyrie Eleison is a Greek prayer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xa6R18iXGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f72CTDe4-0
最後修改者:Electric Cupcake; 2023 年 12 月 16 日 下午 3:40
WatchmenWakeUpOnYT 2023 年 12 月 16 日 下午 6:20 
引用自 Chunkster_Monki
factually Christmas is a pagan holiday and it in now way represents Christ at all. The whole idea is a poncy scheme and Christians only say it to represent the birth so they don't feel bad about celebrating a pagan holiday. I on the other hand just enjoy the gift giving. I believe the only way to celebrate Christ is to take part in Passover and recognize his death and Resurrection.
You need to read Deut 12 and 16, Hosea 8:11-14, and Isaiah 22:12-14. We are not allowed to be doing the feasts in captivity. We are tl warn christians of breaking the 10 commandments not partying at the end of the world. Look at Daniel10:1-4 fasting in Passover in captivity.
WatchmenWakeUpOnYT 2023 年 12 月 16 日 下午 6:27 
引用自 Chunkster_Monki
factually Christmas is a pagan holiday and it in now way represents Christ at all. The whole idea is a poncy scheme and Christians only say it to represent the birth so they don't feel bad about celebrating a pagan holiday. I on the other hand just enjoy the gift giving. I believe the only way to celebrate Christ is to take part in Passover and recognize his death and Resurrection.
Also you're not suppose to accept gifts because it's teaching people to stumble if they see you doing it and they think its doing christmas

Read this

1 Corinthians 8
9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.

10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
Dal420 2023 年 12 月 18 日 上午 5:15 
引用自 WatchmenWakeUpOnYT
引用自 Chunkster_Monki
factually Christmas is a pagan holiday and it in now way represents Christ at all. The whole idea is a poncy scheme and Christians only say it to represent the birth so they don't feel bad about celebrating a pagan holiday. I on the other hand just enjoy the gift giving. I believe the only way to celebrate Christ is to take part in Passover and recognize his death and Resurrection.
Also you're not suppose to accept gifts because it's teaching people to stumble if they see you doing it and they think its doing christmas

Read this

1 Corinthians 8
9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.

10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
You fully had a clown award on this post.

How did you manage to get rid of it?

Shady character.
Original Cast Recording 2023 年 12 月 18 日 上午 5:20 
It's a persistent fallacy to think that cultural syncretism is automatically disqualified.
Dal420 2023 年 12 月 18 日 上午 5:33 
引用自 neopolaris
I haven't celebrated a Christmas since 2010 and it's been a huge relief. The first year was kinda odd, but since then I get to live my normal life while other people get all worked up about this or that and maybe even go deeper into debt. I'll pass thanks. I'm not Pagan.
You're fully entitled to do so, Christmas is not mandatory for anyone outside of the Christian faith, though all are welcome to participate.

It is a significant cultural holiday and an important religious festival, and it should be respected as such just the same as every other culture expects the same level of respect for themselves and their religious holidays (something Steam clearly doesn't give a flying f* about unless it affects their bottom line in some way).
Dal420 2023 年 12 月 18 日 上午 6:06 
引用自 neopolaris
To me, as a Christian, it's like this. You give your mother a birthday cake. On the cake it says Happy Birthday Denise. The problem is that your moms name isn't Denise and it's not her birthday. Your mom would obviously be insulted.
My mom probably would have laughed about it.

But I doubt God cares as long as we are celebrating the birth of His Son. Whether it's December 25th or August 5th, it's the SPIRIT of the season that matters.

God is all-powerful.

If He doesn't want Christmas to exist and it offends Him that greatly, I'm sure He would have done something about it by now.

What about all the Tiny-Tims in the world?

Who wants to tell them Christmas is cancelled because, "it's not the right date", or some other bs along these lines?

Seriously.

It's a time to celebrate the birth of Jesus and give glory to God and wish the best for your fellow man (no matter how misguided, like say, op possibly...?).

It's mind blowing and heavily unsettling to me that people are so threatened by such a peaceful and joyous holiday.

Everyone talks about how stressful it is and all this over nonsense, when most people don't even realise why they are doing it. Nobody is forcing anyone to participate (unless you're Christian, then it's obligatory. At least, it is with Catholics).
If it bothers you, don't do it, but let everyone else enjoy it (not you specifically Neopolaris, I'm just saying this in general).
crunchyfrog 2023 年 12 月 18 日 上午 8:49 
引用自 Dal420
引用自 neopolaris
I haven't celebrated a Christmas since 2010 and it's been a huge relief. The first year was kinda odd, but since then I get to live my normal life while other people get all worked up about this or that and maybe even go deeper into debt. I'll pass thanks. I'm not Pagan.
You're fully entitled to do so, Christmas is not mandatory for anyone outside of the Christian faith, though all are welcome to participate.

It is a significant cultural holiday and an important religious festival, and it should be respected as such just the same as every other culture expects the same level of respect for themselves and their religious holidays (something Steam clearly doesn't give a flying f* about unless it affects their bottom line in some way).
Demonstrable rubbish.

Respect is not automatic for anything.

Just exactly what do Valve do to offend things? By not mentioing Christmas in their sales and instead appeal more to a global market by making it seasonal instead? It's always been that way, and if you think that you're utterly twisting what you think is respect and pushing your beliefs instead.

Because this is exactly like so many other cases in the US - if you think that Valve need to offer something specifically mentioing Christmas then they need to also offer the same for ALL religions, including ones you might not like, like Satanism.


See how that works?
WatchmenWakeUpOnYT 2023 年 12 月 18 日 上午 8:59 
引用自 neopolaris
To me, as a Christian, it's like this. You give your mother a birthday cake. On the cake it says Happy Birthday Denise. The problem is that your moms name isn't Denise and it's not her birthday. Your mom would obviously be insulted.
That's exactly what Yeshua thinks of this pagan Christmas day and easter in Mark 7:6-9.

And why he's gonna tell alot of these fake Christians "depart from me I never knew you" in Matthew 7:21-23
funewchie 2023 年 12 月 18 日 上午 9:23 
引用自 Dal420
You're fully entitled to do so, Christmas is not mandatory for anyone outside of the Christian faith, though all are welcome to participate.

It's not mandatory for anyone IN the faith, either.
Where in the Bible does it say to celebrate Christmas?

(As I recall, in the whole book, there's only two birthdays ever mentioned.
Both were for pagans... and both end up with a guy being executed (Pharaoh's baker, and John the Baptizer being beheaded).
You think it might be trying to tell you something about birthdays?)

引用自 neopolaris
To me, as a Christian, it's like this. You give your mother a birthday cake. On the cake it says Happy Birthday Denise. The problem is that your moms name isn't Denise and it's not her birthday. Your mom would obviously be insulted.

And on the wrong date, too.

Reading the Bible, it said at the time of his birth, that shepherds were living outdoors with their flock (i.e. camping outdoors among their sheep).
The thing is, in Israel, December was when the rainy season starts, and so was usually cold and rainy.
In December, shepherds aren't living outdoors, they're back in their homes with the flocks in their barns.

Plus, Caesar Augustus wouldn't have been stupid enough to make people trudge through muddy roads in cold weather in the winter to register for a census (Which was why Mary and Joseph were in Bethlehem to begin with).

Along with other areas of the book, it seems Christ was likely born in the autumn, probably around October.

Plus, Christ never commanded anyone to celebrate his birthday. Hence why the Bible didn't give the exact date.
He did command people to honor his death, which is why it was specific to when that happened.

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Besides which, Christmas was around before Christ was on earth.
It started as the Saturnalia, a harvest festival for Saturn, Roman god of agriculture.
It was a 2-week festival featuring gift-giving, heavy drinking, and merry-making.

During that festival, around December 25 they included the Natalis Sol Invicti (roughly "Birthday of the Invincible Sun"), as sun worship was popular in Rome at the time.

And the festival ended on New Years with the festival to Janus, the two-faced Roman god of endings and beginnings. (And where the month of January gets its name from)

Centuries after Christ, some pagans decided to try and camouflage their festivals with a thin veneer of Christianity. And apparently succeeded.
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So yeah, it's a pretty intense subject.
And the OP really should have been more tactful.

I mean, I don't care what anyone does, but knowledge is power.
最後修改者:funewchie; 2023 年 12 月 18 日 上午 9:25
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