Should I give up on movies?

[Devsman]

I can't seem to find a semi-recent one that's not full of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

And I'm not talking about your typical Internet "it's not the greatest thing in the universe, therefore it's crap" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

I'm talking, oh look there's a closeup of a dude's naked butt for some moronic reason. Oh look, the G-D word for some moronic reason. Oh look, a sex scene for some moronic reason.

Last week I did a search on the Internet for good movies I haven't seen yet, oh yeah, Django Unchained, that's supposed to be good, got one second in, the top of the screen says nudity and I'm just like WHAT IS THIS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. So I just didn't watch anything.

It's so dumb. The whole Internet will tell you it adds nothing to the movie. But they do it anyway.

[M͂͒̀λgi͡caℓ Ήo͓̽ﻇo̴]

i took some acid and . and i luv watching cool artistic movies coming down. i watched the lord of the rings cartoon and the movie vivarium.
luv my life

[Lunar Fang]

Messaggio originale di ⛧:

I don't watch horror

You poor thing...

[Kargor]

Messaggio originale di Devsman:

I can't seem to find a semi-recent one that's not full of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Well, that's easily a You-problem.

I've recently started to look into movies again, after taking a loooong break, filling up my list on Amazon and occasionally buying some. Still works for me.

I'm talking, oh look there's a closeup of a dude's naked butt for some moronic reason. Oh look, the G-D word for some moronic reason. Oh look, a sex scene for some moronic reason.

They generally avoid this kind of stuff in the movies I'm buying; it can quickly screw up the rating.

oh yeah, Django Unchained, that's supposed to be good

Oh yeah, I wouldn't touch that. Entirely not *my* kind of thing.

[Chaosolous]

I stopped watching movies well over a decade ago with a few exceptions. Movies have lost a lot of cultural nuance in favor of a global box office and as a result have boiled down to "Good Thing Vs. Bad Thing because."

I find a lot of movies (and other forms of media) to be wholly predictable at best and boring at worst. It's part of why I don't finish a lot of games TBH. "I've seen enough, I can figure what'll happen." then when I look it up, a lot of the times I'm right. Same with movies, books, etc.

Rarely is something well written/choreographed/thoughtful enough to hold my interest.

Even media I've enjoyed, I've often found predictable.

[Morkonan]

Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:

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It's one of the things that really gets me about how the US is rushing backwards thatnks to silly religiosity.
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I really despise this puritanical nonsense.

It's not "religiosity."

It's certain political groups that have pounded away at subcultures in an effort to gain support and will accept ANYONE that can vote... So, the same political factions that would seem to broadly and enthusiastically support "religiosity" folks.. also lovingly accept fringe-group Nazi's, racists, authoritarians, etc. They push political objectives in order to gain enthusiastic sub-culture votes, not because of some ideological principle or "religious" belief. They support local/regional candidates that may truly want such changes not because of a political platform, but for the political feedback mechanism it powers to attract even more of the religiously conservative/religiosity folks.

The opposition parties do the same thing for the same reasons.

That's the kind of tactic that produces the polarization we see happening in the US. None of these political decisions are made in the best interests of anyone, they're made in the best interest of attracting more support from the audience those actions targeted. (IMO - Not trying to turn it political, but just had to comment on that "religiosity" bit. :))

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In recent movies, there is an overwhelming algorithm-fulfilling goal to avoid female nudity, because it is thought that "objectifies women." That's why it's not seen in many popular flicks where it could rationally appear and the movie is focused at young adults. It has nothing to do with religion, since that's very much either avoided or derided in pop-culture these days.

It wouldn't be in a comic-book-movie, but could be in a horror/action film. And, since good dramas, thrillers, or romances need good writing... that's why you don't see them as often in highly publicity marketing these days when compared to the mass-peddled crapola that gets splurted up onto the screen. They paid the marketers, not the writers.


Just as an afterthought: I went through my cable channels to see what movies were coming on this evening and wanted to mention:

"Edge of Tomorrow" is probably the best science-fiction movie I've seen in the past decade. No nudity, no cheap thrills, no fluff, no political baggage... It's just good science-fiction/action. Cruise may be nutty, but he is often in good science-fiction movies. (Also in Oblivion, Minority Report, War of the Worlds, which are all good sci-fi. And, none of them have "adult situations" in them either, if that's anyone's worry.)

[Moogal™]

Rango is probably the best movie i watched in a good while. Definitely and highly recommend, it is on NF.

[crunchyfrog]

Messaggio originale di Morkonan:

Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:

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It's one of the things that really gets me about how the US is rushing backwards thatnks to silly religiosity.
...
I really despise this puritanical nonsense.

It's not "religiosity."

It's certain political groups that have pounded away at subcultures in an effort to gain support and will accept ANYONE that can vote... So, the same political factions that would seem to broadly and enthusiastically support "religiosity" folks.. also lovingly accept fringe-group Nazi's, racists, authoritarians, etc. They push political objectives in order to gain enthusiastic sub-culture votes, not because of some ideological principle or "religious" belief. They support local/regional candidates that may truly want such changes not because of a political platform, but for the political feedback mechanism it powers to attract even more of the religiously conservative/religiosity folks.

The opposition parties do the same thing for the same reasons.

That's the kind of tactic that produces the polarization we see happening in the US. None of these political decisions are made in the best interests of anyone, they're made in the best interest of attracting more support from the audience those actions targeted. (IMO - Not trying to turn it political, but just had to comment on that "religiosity" bit. :))

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In recent movies, there is an overwhelming algorithm-fulfilling goal to avoid female nudity, because it is thought that "objectifies women." That's why it's not seen in many popular flicks where it could rationally appear and the movie is focused at young adults. It has nothing to do with religion, since that's very much either avoided or derided in pop-culture these days.

It wouldn't be in a comic-book-movie, but could be in a horror/action film. And, since good dramas, thrillers, or romances need good writing... that's why you don't see them as often in highly publicity marketing these days when compared to the mass-peddled crapola that gets splurted up onto the screen. They paid the marketers, not the writers.


Just as an afterthought: I went through my cable channels to see what movies were coming on this evening and wanted to mention:

"Edge of Tomorrow" is probably the best science-fiction movie I've seen in the past decade. No nudity, no cheap thrills, no fluff, no political baggage... It's just good science-fiction/action. Cruise may be nutty, but he is often in good science-fiction movies. (Also in Oblivion, Minority Report, War of the Worlds, which are all good sci-fi. And, none of them have "adult situations" in them either, if that's anyone's worry.)

Soirry it absolutely is.
It's demonstrable. Go look up McCarthyism and learn how it was created and pushed.

[Rebecca]

Messaggio originale di Morkonan:

Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:

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It's one of the things that really gets me about how the US is rushing backwards thatnks to silly religiosity.
...
I really despise this puritanical nonsense.

It's not "religiosity."

It's certain political groups that have pounded away at subcultures in an effort to gain support and will accept ANYONE that can vote... So, the same political factions that would seem to broadly and enthusiastically support "religiosity" folks.. also lovingly accept fringe-group Nazi's, racists, authoritarians, etc. They push political objectives in order to gain enthusiastic sub-culture votes, not because of some ideological principle or "religious" belief. They support local/regional candidates that may truly want such changes not because of a political platform, but for the political feedback mechanism it powers to attract even more of the religiously conservative/religiosity folks.

The opposition parties do the same thing for the same reasons.

That's the kind of tactic that produces the polarization we see happening in the US. None of these political decisions are made in the best interests of anyone, they're made in the best interest of attracting more support from the audience those actions targeted. (IMO - Not trying to turn it political, but just had to comment on that "religiosity" bit. :))

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In recent movies, there is an overwhelming algorithm-fulfilling goal to avoid female nudity, because it is thought that "objectifies women." That's why it's not seen in many popular flicks where it could rationally appear and the movie is focused at young adults. It has nothing to do with religion, since that's very much either avoided or derided in pop-culture these days.

Urgh, they're actually saying that female nudity is objectifying in films and are taking it out? This is actually just code for their own repression and jealousy. So, first its sexy characters being taboo now in games to no nudity in films? This is crazy! Its as bad as religious people banning sex and nudity, it doesn't matter if its for a different reason. In fact its worse than when religious people do it, because this time people will actually listen.

Sex, sexiness and nudity are part of natural human desires, you can't just take that away. They're literally trying to strip sexuality out of everything. What exactly are they trying to achieve? To make everyone completely repressed and sexless? This is driven by sexual repression and jealousy. They need to sort they own sexual issues out and stop taking it out on media.

[Garou]

If you're into rewatching movies, create a list of all the ones that you don't hate and watch them whenever you feel like it.

[Kargor]

Messaggio originale di Rebecca:

Sex, sexiness and nudity are part of natural human desires, you can't just take that away. They're literally trying to strip sexuality out of everything.

Well, I don't know who "they" are and what "everything" is, but I *really* don't need characters in movies or games banging each other for no particular reason.

Also, fanservice has worked since forever -- and I don't notice it getting removed or anything.

[Sherasonni]

For the past several years, I've been waiting for the others' reviews before deciding to watch a movie at a cinema. I'm glad that I didn't watch 'Napoleon.' Both the people who are familiar and unfamiliar with the Napoleonic Wars disliked the movie.

[Rebecca]

Messaggio originale di Kargor:

Messaggio originale di Rebecca:

Sex, sexiness and nudity are part of natural human desires, you can't just take that away. They're literally trying to strip sexuality out of everything.

Well, I don't know who "they" are and what "everything" is, but I *really* don't need characters in movies or games banging each other for no particular reason.

Also, fanservice has worked since forever -- and I don't notice it getting removed or anything.

Its woke people doing it. They're taking sexy stuff out of games and now films too.

It is slowly getting removed though, Lara Croft had a boring redesign, same with Mortal Kombat female characters, they hid the sexy outfits in the new Dead or Alive and made them an absolute pain to unlock, they ruined Cammy's design in the latest Street Fighter. There's also a new trend of making female characters manly looking and ugly, like in the new Fable and Horizon games. There was also an advert by Dove advocating for ugly female characters in games and saying that sexy ones are bad.

[Kargor]

Messaggio originale di Rebecca:

It is slowly getting removed though

Well, I guess I'll have to wait until I encounter these things -- I'm always at least a few years behind, often more, since I'm waiting for complete packages and high discounts on games, and reasonably priced BluRays for movies (and I don't really have any kind of overview on movies either, which might delay things even further).

[Conor McNegor]

Yeah, movies are overrated anyway

[Devsman]

Messaggio originale di Kargor:

Messaggio originale di Rebecca:

Sex, sexiness and nudity are part of natural human desires, you can't just take that away. They're literally trying to strip sexuality out of everything.

Well, I don't know who "they" are and what "everything" is, but I *really* don't need characters in movies or games banging each other for no particular reason.

Also, fanservice has worked since forever -- and I don't notice it getting removed or anything.

I mean, if you literally just change it to something else, anything else, it reads like the worst most bizarre writing in the universe.

First the secret agent tries to take down the bad guy org and fails but meets a woman

Then the secret agent and the woman play basketball

Then he comes back and saves the day

Simple reason is because it IS the worst most bizarre writing ever but it's in every movie so people don't think about it anymore.