Console PC build?

[Nerd Gamer Buddy]

If you were gonna build a PC but make it look like a console what console would it look like? Which console interface would you use?

How would one build a PC that's as close to the consoles as possible? Hypothetically speaking. I'm curious if it could still play games and what sort of games it could play?

I would wanna build a handheld if all possible or a very portable desktop that the screen and controls are just right there even if it's a box you plug into. Personally steams big picture mode is such a great concept. Does windows have a big pic mode? I know you can have steam startup that way.

Ive heard of ppl gutting out a console and making a PC out of the shell. They get rpi and emulate the console but it's a soc. Is there a PC build that is more of a console PC?

[Kobs]

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How would one build a PC that's as close to the consoles as possible?

Buying cheap parts from 2 or 3 years ago loll

more like 15 years ago.

I was generous loll

[crunchyfrog]

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they actually have a pc case that looks like an xbox series x. which is epic. but what about software? steam does have a big pic mode and you can do that on startup but is that really the best way? could very well be the easiest.

i would like to build these and try to sell them. mass producing may not be possible as that would be a lot of money but itll be cool to sell some of these if they can be made. i want more players on the pc but in order to do this i need to make a pc thats super simple to use. maybe it can have retrobat, steam and gamepass/ ps now? it can be on the desktop too.

what other software would be good for this?

Not likely to be viable as plenty of options exist already.

You'd be on for a loser like everybody who used to things like do 3D printing for people before they were widely popular, or printing services before many people were familiar with modern word processors and such.

The fact is it's easy to get a small form factor PC from a wide variety of manufacturers right off the shelf now. You putting them in a case is easily done already and there are Github models for peope to 3D print their own cases too.

So you'd be on a hiding to nothing.

Not to mention what I've done - a simple Raspberry Pi in a game console case of your choice. Keeps things simple as can be and can play a wide variety of things, or be a small form factor PC at a pinch too.

It's cool to make it yourself, but don't be fooled into thinking you could make money out of it.

[crunchyfrog]

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more like 15 years ago.

I was generous loll

Not really.

Current gen consoles have never been that far behind.

Because it isn't as simple as processing power and pure grunt. Consoles are increidbly bespoke even if they are cut down in other ways.

It's why even today some consoles are hard to emaulate.

The Saturn was only recently worked out as it uses a different way of calculating polygons - it doesn't use triangles but squares (it's one of the reasons the original Tomb Raider when ported to the PS1, had weird graphical artifacts).

Or the PS2 with it's "Emotion" engine - that was really hard to emulate and code for. Or the PS3 with it's multicell architecture.

It simply doesn't work like that.

[Nerd Gamer Buddy]

Honestly I dont care if people think that I'm a loser from liking older games. If we want to really get to the console of choice it'll be Nintendo. So like a small factor brightly colored rgb rainbow box that is Zelda themed would be right up my alley!

Yes PC objectively has more features and games then consoles but is also the closest thing you can get to actually making a console. I've seen people taking consoles and just making PCs out of them.

Big o orgin exists too but not everyone is gonna spend 3k on that. It's a brilliant thought experiment. Honestly the shape of those fat monitors might be an even better case. Then you could get the screen led or something.

I love rpi but unsure how many steam games it'll be able to play. They even made a gamecube PC which uses the smallest mobo in existence.

I don't hate consoles. I understand PC is better in every way but in order to get ppl on the PC side I need a way to show just how easy it can be. I dont expect to make a ton of money from this if at all. Much more of a passion project. It's like if I get money for streaming would be nice sure but it's not why I'm curious about it.

For nintendo, being generous it might be more the 1050 GPU. The devs make the magic happen on having the games run. If you look at the specs of a console it's like an office of with 16 GB of ram. Nintendo is more like a smartphone tho. Might be harder to make spec wise tho. In fact Nintendo might just be too weak to be made into a PC

[crunchyfrog]

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Honestly I dont care if people think that I'm a loser from liking older games. If we want to really get to the console of choice it'll be Nintendo. So like a small factor brightly colored rgb rainbow box that is Zelda themed would be right up my alley!

Yes PC objectively has more features and games then consoles but is also the closest thing you can get to actually making a console. I've seen people taking consoles and just making PCs out of them.

Big o orgin exists too but not everyone is gonna spend 3k on that. It's a brilliant thought experiment. Honestly the shape of those fat monitors might be an even better case. Then you could get the screen led or something.

I love rpi but unsure how many steam games it'll be able to play. They even made a gamecube PC which uses the smallest mobo in existence.

I don't hate consoles. I understand PC is better in every way but in order to get ppl on the PC side I need a way to show just how easy it can be. I dont expect to make a ton of money from this if at all. Much more of a passion project. It's like if I get money for streaming would be nice sure but it's not why I'm curious about it.

For nintendo, being generous it might be more the 1050 GPU. The devs make the magic happen on having the games run. If you look at the specs of a console it's like an office of with 16 GB of ram. Nintendo is more like a smartphone tho. Might be harder to make spec wise tho. In fact Nintendo might just be too weak to be made into a PC

Excelelent points.

I've never cared what the ♥♥♥♥ other people think about anything, as it doesn't affect (and shouldn't) what I like.

I'm in my fifities, retired and disabled. Been playing games since the start.

And yet I will happily and proudly play Hello Kitty Roller Rescue on the PS2 because it's a decent enough ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ platformer.

[Dutchgamer1982]

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I was generous loll

Not really.

Current gen consoles have never been that far behind.

Because it isn't as simple as processing power and pure grunt. Consoles are increidbly bespoke even if they are cut down in other ways.

It's why even today some consoles are hard to emaulate.

The Saturn was only recently worked out as it uses a different way of calculating polygons - it doesn't use triangles but squares (it's one of the reasons the original Tomb Raider when ported to the PS1, had weird graphical artifacts).

Or the PS2 with it's "Emotion" engine - that was really hard to emulate and code for. Or the PS3 with it's multicell architecture.

It simply doesn't work like that.

true consoles lagged 15 years begind in 2000.

sadly due the crappy multiplatform games.. new games now also work on 15 year old computers
(it used to be if you pc was older than 3 year you could forget it even booting any new game)

this may give the impression that consoles are less far behind.. but compared to the best pc gaming has to offer they still are 15 years behind... it's just that now the average pc gamer has an older pc with lower stats than they used to.

basicly todays games due the multiplatform don't UTILISE anything the newer pc hardware has to offer.. aside from "higher fps and resolution"

but if you made a proper pc only game for todays hardware you'd see the gap still excist hardware wise.


what I do haave to add is though consoles at launch already use hardware 15 years old.. they are very much optimalised.. having 1 set of parts for ALL users allows coding much closer to machine language.. and that in turn allows that old hardware to perform much more efficient.
hence why out of 15 year old hardware, they manage to push performance thats more like 5 to 7 years behind.

[crunchyfrog]

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Not really.

Current gen consoles have never been that far behind.

Because it isn't as simple as processing power and pure grunt. Consoles are increidbly bespoke even if they are cut down in other ways.

It's why even today some consoles are hard to emaulate.

The Saturn was only recently worked out as it uses a different way of calculating polygons - it doesn't use triangles but squares (it's one of the reasons the original Tomb Raider when ported to the PS1, had weird graphical artifacts).

Or the PS2 with it's "Emotion" engine - that was really hard to emulate and code for. Or the PS3 with it's multicell architecture.

It simply doesn't work like that.

true consoles lagged 15 years begind in 2000.

sadly due the crappy multiplatform games.. new games now also work on 15 year old computers
(it used to be if you pc was older than 3 year you could forget it even booting any new game)

this may give the impression that consoles are less far behind.. but compared to the best pc gaming has to offer they still are 15 years behind... it's just that now the average pc gamer has an older pc with lower stats than they used to.

basicly todays games due the multiplatform don't UTILISE anything the newer pc hardware has to offer.. aside from "higher fps and resolution"

but if you made a proper pc only game for todays hardware you'd see the gap still excist hardware wise.


what I do haave to add is though consoles at launch already use hardware 15 years old.. they are very much optimalised.. having 1 set of parts for ALL users allows coding much closer to machine language.. and that in turn allows that old hardware to perform much more efficient.
hence why out of 15 year old hardware, they manage to push performance thats more like 5 to 7 years behind.

Cool present evidence to support your claim they lagged 15 years behind please.

[Dutchgamer1982]

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true consoles lagged 15 years begind in 2000.

sadly due the crappy multiplatform games.. new games now also work on 15 year old computers
(it used to be if you pc was older than 3 year you could forget it even booting any new game)

this may give the impression that consoles are less far behind.. but compared to the best pc gaming has to offer they still are 15 years behind... it's just that now the average pc gamer has an older pc with lower stats than they used to.

basicly todays games due the multiplatform don't UTILISE anything the newer pc hardware has to offer.. aside from "higher fps and resolution"

but if you made a proper pc only game for todays hardware you'd see the gap still excist hardware wise.


what I do haave to add is though consoles at launch already use hardware 15 years old.. they are very much optimalised.. having 1 set of parts for ALL users allows coding much closer to machine language.. and that in turn allows that old hardware to perform much more efficient.
hence why out of 15 year old hardware, they manage to push performance thats more like 5 to 7 years behind.

Cool present evidence to support your claim they lagged 15 years behind please.

2000 :
me on pc : cossacs on 1600x1200 from a cdrom.
they on console : street fighting in pixelated crap from caardridges

me : working and saving to buy the next pc
meanwhile while delivering newspapers 2 utter trailer trash hanging outside.. talking what console they will buy from their welfare"

thats the image consoles have for me
things for "those" kind of people..

while pc is for those who work in IT, have iq of 120+ etc..

I remember the era.. I know how WIDE the gap between the games on console and pc was.
oh and than that time red alert 1 was ported to the first PS and how HORRIBLE it ran on it.
while we on pc already played yuri's revenge...

[MADWACZ]

I saw some interesting pre-builds post era Steam Machines back late 2010s from MSI that everything stuffed into mini towers that had same size as consoles, I can see them having fallen out of fashion. Now my smallest build besides my laptop is my mini tower pc I build back 2019 as its serves as my big Swiss knife of LAN parties, multimedia player and of course pc console gaming.

[Nerd Gamer Buddy]

I'm the type to make a table into a PC or like something hidden like the inner workings but make it look like something else. Maybe a giant switch TV. And have my phone linked up or a tablet and play games on the go. But console gamers want really simple. If I give them that with PC and show how easy PC is they will come over to the PC side