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shrinking products
anyone else notice stuffs shrinking and still rising in prices?

food / meals are shrinking
good example krispy kreme donuts are smaller than prior years

toilet paper is wider not longer.

stuff like meat is getting smaller
Originally posted by Professor:
The cost of production & delivery to markets has never gone backwards, it has always been increasing. Historical data indicates that the margins are greater today than in the past as well as more frequent rises rather than spread out over time they are now applied up to 4 times per year (quarterly).

It is these margins that are increasing rapidly, as in the past 20-50% was adequate to keep up with rising costs of production, where today is more like 50-100%. The retailers like supermarkets are always increasing margins above & beyond any price rise incurred by transporters, manufacturers & producers.

If cost goes up by 10% for the transporter, the retailers & producers increase margins by 15% or more, making an additional 5% for their troubles. It is never clear cut & it is never dollar for dollar & probably why we experience rapid price rises.
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MEGA MAN X Dec 20, 2023 @ 7:51pm 
Originally posted by Breathe:
Originally posted by < blank?!? >:
tbh slowly im gettin paranoid the more broke i get slowly. . . its creepy >.<* idk like a ghost walking in slowmotion or so
Please don't let this scare you. Let it help you make more careful choices, maybe plan and create a working budget that is manageable.

thx for your nice words and i will try to do a safety budget plan for now and the new year. but it still scares the crap out of me ngl >.<*
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Swarmfly Dec 20, 2023 @ 7:53pm 
At a certain point, the square cube law is definitely going to hit us hard. Imagine if inflation necessitates shrinking the average human being to the size of a Barbie doll! We have got to do something about it.
MEGA MAN X Dec 20, 2023 @ 7:55pm 
Originally posted by Zubovnikov:
At a certain point, the square cube law is definitely going to hit us hard. Imagine if inflation necessitates shrinking the average human being to the size of a Barbie doll! We have got to do something about it.

do we even have enough air left on earth to breath safely? or should we breath only like 30 times a minute maximum to safe oxygen maybe? >.<* this is kinda what i await for 2024
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Ulfrinn Dec 20, 2023 @ 7:56pm 
Originally posted by Zubovnikov:
At a certain point, the square cube law is definitely going to hit us hard. Imagine if inflation necessitates shrinking the average human being to the size of a Barbie doll! We have got to do something about it.

Well, learning what thinly veiled wealth redistribution policies actually are, what they do, why they're pushed, how to detect them, and how to avoid them is certainly a good start.
funewchie Dec 20, 2023 @ 8:19pm 
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

That's because Jurassic Park lacked a little thing called competition. The fast food industry has a lot of competition, so that doesn't quite work out. McDonald's cannot charge what ever they want because people would just go to Burger King, and if Burger King did the same, they'd just go to Wendy's.

They all are in cahoots, kid.
That's why you don't see Burger King constantly charging $3 less for a Whooper than the McDonald's equivalent.

They're not interested in competition, they can all overcharge you, and you have no options.
Go ahead, go eat at Wendy's, you'll be gouged just as bad as McDonalds.

Businesses: "They'll be back. They always come back."

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Why? As someone in a state with a low minimum where I can get a 4 bedroom home on an acre of land cheaper than those $15 minimum wage places can get a single bedroom apartment, I get those cheap Amazon prices AND still pay very little for housing. The only people it harms are the places stupid enough to constantly jack up their minimums.

...I get it now.
This was never about the rent or economy.

It was hatred that they now pay "those filthy second-class serfs" anything decent.

Man, I knew elitism still exists, but I always thought it was limited to just the 1%.
Ulfrinn Dec 20, 2023 @ 8:30pm 
Originally posted by funewchie:
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

That's because Jurassic Park lacked a little thing called competition. The fast food industry has a lot of competition, so that doesn't quite work out. McDonald's cannot charge what ever they want because people would just go to Burger King, and if Burger King did the same, they'd just go to Wendy's.

They all are in cahoots, kid.
That's why you don't see Burger King constantly charging $3 less for a Whooper than the McDonald's equivalent.

They're not interested in competition, they can all overcharge you, and you have no options.
Go ahead, go eat at Wendy's, you'll be gouged just as bad as McDonalds.

Businesses: "They'll be back. They always come back."

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Why? As someone in a state with a low minimum where I can get a 4 bedroom home on an acre of land cheaper than those $15 minimum wage places can get a single bedroom apartment, I get those cheap Amazon prices AND still pay very little for housing. The only people it harms are the places stupid enough to constantly jack up their minimums.

...I get it now.
This was never about the rent or economy.

It was hatred that they now pay "those filthy second-class serfs" anything decent.

Man, I knew elitism still exists, but I always thought it was limited to just the 1%.

No, they don't. You don't seem to get it. Minimum wage is completely and entirely superficial. It's only spoken about in politics because very low IQ people don't put a moment's thought behind it and just assume higher minimum wage means they'll all get more money. None ever realize it also means they'll also be paying more, going right back to where they were in the first place. Raise minimum wage to $10,0000/hr, and you'll be paying $20,000 for a Big Mac. And you will still struggle to link the two.

This isn't some evil corporation or the big bad 1%. It's simple mathematics. If employees are paid more, the business needs to bring in more revenue to write their checks, it means the cost of their products are going up, and that money is coming from the customers. Those customers are also active members of that economy. And so are those employees who are active customers at several other places of business where this happens.

You've been lead to believe in some fairy tale if you think some politician is going to wave a magical wand, take money from "the rich" and put it into your pocket. All they're doing is buying the vote of someone unable to do the basic math needed to figure it out.

Learn how the world actually works before you go around and call others "kid."
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crunchyfrog Dec 20, 2023 @ 8:53pm 
I've seen the reddit pages of shrinkflation and it's a very real thing - especially in the US.

As a Brit I can't get over how some of the things I've seen are legal, frankly.

My youngest daughter forever goes on how chocoloate keeps shrinkflating though - I don't eat chocolate so I wouldn't notice.

But plenty of other things I have noticed though.

The thing that has pissed me off more than anything is the British law to change taxation on sugary drinks. Being disabled with spina bifida I have certain digestive issues and sugary stuff really works well at getting energy in my body so greatly upping the price of them hit me.

But that's a bit off the topic.
funewchie Dec 20, 2023 @ 8:58pm 
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

It's simple mathematics. If employees are paid more, the business needs to bring in more revenue to write their checks,

Learn how the world actually works before you go around and call others "kid."

In other words:

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

It's simple mathematics. If employees are paid more, the business needs to bring in more revenue to write their checks, instead of giving ME all of that money.

I'm educated and deserve that money, not the plebeians! Send them back to the slums!

It's obvious to me, kid, you're either trolling, brainwashed or greedy.
(hopefully the first)

One simple look at restaurants and stores and such literally all charging the exact same price tag would prove there is no competition.
Meaning they're working together.

In any case, enjoy the block list.
I'm in my late 30s and have neither the time nor the patience to teach you about the real world.
Last edited by funewchie; Dec 20, 2023 @ 8:58pm
crunchyfrog Dec 20, 2023 @ 9:00pm 
Originally posted by funewchie:
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

It's simple mathematics. If employees are paid more, the business needs to bring in more revenue to write their checks,

Learn how the world actually works before you go around and call others "kid."

In other words:

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

It's simple mathematics. If employees are paid more, the business needs to bring in more revenue to write their checks, instead of giving ME all of that money.

I'm educated and deserve that money, not the plebeians! Send them back to the slums!

It's obvious to me, kid, you're either trolling, brainwashed or greedy.
(hopefully the first)

One simple look at restaurants and stores and such literally all charging the exact same price tag would prove there is no competition.
Meaning they're working together.

In any case, enjoy the block list.
I'm in my late 30s and have neither the time nor the patience to teach you about the real world.
I'd ignore Ulfrinn. He understand very little about even simple politics.

You are correct of course. As a general rule of thumb, wages tend to make up about 65% or so of a companies money (or should).

To make silly claims like he does shows he's never even looked at how companies operate or he'd realise how silly such a claim is.
funewchie Dec 20, 2023 @ 9:05pm 
Originally posted by crunchyfrog:
I'd ignore Ulfrinn. He understand very little about even simple politics.

You are correct of course. As a general rule of thumb, wages tend to make up about 65% or so of a companies money (or should).

To make silly claims like he does shows he's never even looked at how companies operate or he'd realise how silly such a claim is.

Apparently, I had before. No idea why he was unblocked.
Oh well, the issue is now remedied.

Yeah, companies have their management being paid $60k+, and joining golf clubs and work on their swing.
Meanwhile, employees barely able to pay rent or buy increasingly-expensive groceries.

And yet, people whine and blame the employees when they're getting paid enough to, you know, actually live on!
Last edited by funewchie; Dec 20, 2023 @ 9:06pm
Ulfrinn Dec 20, 2023 @ 9:06pm 
Originally posted by crunchyfrog:
Originally posted by funewchie:

In other words:



It's obvious to me, kid, you're either trolling, brainwashed or greedy.
(hopefully the first)

One simple look at restaurants and stores and such literally all charging the exact same price tag would prove there is no competition.
Meaning they're working together.

In any case, enjoy the block list.
I'm in my late 30s and have neither the time nor the patience to teach you about the real world.
I'd ignore Ulfrinn. He understand very little about even simple politics.

You are correct of course. As a general rule of thumb, wages tend to make up about 65% or so of a companies money (or should).

To make silly claims like he does shows he's never even looked at how companies operate or he'd realise how silly such a claim is.

Wages making up 65% of what a company spends has absolutely nothing to do with what that company is going to do to pay more if a law demands it. They don't fabricate their own money. It comes from customers. Tell me, how do you think a business gets additional money from the customers needed to pay their employees more?
WhiteKnight77 Dec 21, 2023 @ 3:47am 
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:
Originally posted by crunchyfrog:
I'd ignore Ulfrinn. He understand very little about even simple politics.

You are correct of course. As a general rule of thumb, wages tend to make up about 65% or so of a companies money (or should).

To make silly claims like he does shows he's never even looked at how companies operate or he'd realise how silly such a claim is.

Wages making up 65% of what a company spends has absolutely nothing to do with what that company is going to do to pay more if a law demands it. They don't fabricate their own money. It comes from customers. Tell me, how do you think a business gets additional money from the customers needed to pay their employees more?


Originally posted by funewchie:
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

It's simple mathematics. If employees are paid more, the business needs to bring in more revenue to write their checks,

Learn how the world actually works before you go around and call others "kid."

In other words:

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

It's simple mathematics. If employees are paid more, the business needs to bring in more revenue to write their checks, instead of giving ME all of that money.

I'm educated and deserve that money, not the plebeians! Send them back to the slums!

It's obvious to me, kid, you're either trolling, brainwashed or greedy.
(hopefully the first)

One simple look at restaurants and stores and such literally all charging the exact same price tag would prove there is no competition.
Meaning they're working together.

In any case, enjoy the block list.
I'm in my late 30s and have neither the time nor the patience to teach you about the real world.
As a mechanic, I often heard the complaint of that "I can buy that same part for $10.99 at the parts store. Why are you charging me $25.99 for it?" First and foremost they are paying for just the part and tax and nothing else. When you bring your car to me, my boss is charging you that $25.99 due to the overhead in running a business. You know, things such as rent, insurance, electricity, phone and TV (as customers want to watch something while waiting). Prices for parts have to be marked up at least 100% from what the wholesale price might be, anything less costs the shop money.

The same goes for burger places. I posted about what franchisee's pay for, and sometimes it is the whole kit, cut and caboodle. That is on top of paying McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King, etc. for all the necessary supplies. That, along with wages all have to come out of the price of the food that is sold, as well as a little profit for the franchisee. When wages go up, as well as the price of the goods being sold to the franchisee, prices will go up no matter how you look at it.
metamec Dec 21, 2023 @ 3:53am 
It has been happening forever but it's way more obvious in the age of online shopping because products on favoris list end up being discontinued. So you search and discover one that's lower weight and same price. You would most likely have missed the weight difference if you went to the store.

Far worse is when they tweak ingredients for cheaper ones in well known products because you're just not going to notice that. The product never seems to delist. They just carry on selling like it's exactly the same thing.
Xero_Daxter Dec 21, 2023 @ 4:41am 
“You shrink my fries I’ll shrink your lives.” -America… maybe…
Pieshaman Dec 21, 2023 @ 4:47am 
yes toblerone is smaller, I can easily stuff 3 of those smaller triangles in my maw at once. first I could barely do 2 or couldn't chew anymore.
also the cups with chocolate mousse or whatever it called are smaller now,
I not even feel sick anymore if I eat a big one fast. you supposed to feel sick a bit cause a big one is supposed to be a bit too much for 1 person, but not anymore:steambored:
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