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kingjames488 (Banned) Nov 6, 2023 @ 5:29pm
are you at all concerned about everything having bluetooth?
bluetooth is always "listening" for a connection...
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Originally posted by Sly Succubus:
I go into my devices and disable my bluetooth transmitter when its not in use, its rather easy to do.
How could you be so self-assured in believing that turning off Bluetooth on the device still means that it won't still be relatively active when it's idling with a source of power (i.e. the phone battery) still connected to it?

Just because the device says it's "off" doesn't mean that it is actually off when it is, in truth, hibernating until you have disconnected the battery. Batteries do not "turn off," as the electricity still actively needs to flow and go somewhere so it doesn't end up completely draining out and kill the battery. Your devices are always leaving a ping and bouncing off other smart technologies (incl. cell towers and satellites) until you've disconnected the battery so it doesn't idle and bleed out that energy through the device. This same philosophy will also apply for devices with Bluetooth; the battery must be disconnected so all its features are no longer operable because, in all likelihood, its Bluetooth is just hibernating like the phone itself, which leaves the possibility of its Bluetooth features still able to be pinged off of other devices.

Think of it as such: the WiFi connectivity on your phone still actively pings off of other routers even when you have "turned it off", and the GPS on your phone will still bounce off of the satellite regardless of whether you have enabled it or not. In this case, the same logic should be applied for Bluetooth as it does for WiFi and GPS. These features don't just stop functioning like you've pulled a switch on them; they are just hibernating as they are still very much powered by the device and are yet capable of sending pings and picking up connectivity even when turned "off" on the phone settings.

Originally posted by Pirate☠️Pocah:
In general I don't like everything connecting without my consent. It usually means it's collecting data on you, and that is something I do not approve of.
Consent to privacy and owning a smart phone at the same time is not a consensus that goes well together; your device is always going to track you and send data through the native operating system as long as there's a still-functioning battery idling inside of it. If you trust that Google—the number one biggest multinational company that monetises people's data—still wouldn't collect your data (especially with its unsurprising reputation of being willing to violate antitrust laws), then you truly are a lost cause for understanding any reason.

The last thing you should believe is that a big money-making corporation is going to want to respect your want of privacy.
Last edited by Barney, from Black Mesa.; Nov 7, 2023 @ 5:04am
Q-T_3.14.exe Nov 7, 2023 @ 12:03am 
Bluetooth asks for consent.
RustledJimm Nov 7, 2023 @ 12:04am 
bluetooth uses battery why are you just leaving it on
Originally posted by kingjames488:
Originally posted by Sly Succubus:
I go into my devices and disable my bluetooth transmitter when its not in use, its rather easy to do.
how do you do that on a blender?
Never seen a blender with bluetooth. Also you could you know unplug it from the wall when not in use.
Last edited by ↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect; Nov 7, 2023 @ 12:51am
Candyy Nov 7, 2023 @ 1:35am 
Disable It then :steambored:
Why the ♥♥♥♥ has a blender got bluetooth?
Originally posted by Whitespikes forever:
Why the ♥♥♥♥ has a blender got bluetooth?
For "firmware updates". lol
Last edited by TGC> The Games Collector; Nov 7, 2023 @ 5:34am
Mr_Blank Nov 7, 2023 @ 5:36am 
Google and steam and discord and opera gx all probably sell my information so why should I care when my phones doing it to
“There’s nothing we can do.” -Napoleon
Last edited by Mr_Blank; Nov 7, 2023 @ 5:36am
tyl0413 Nov 7, 2023 @ 1:17pm 
Originally posted by Mr_Blank:
Google and steam and discord and opera gx all probably sell my information so why should I care when my phones doing it to
“There’s nothing we can do.” -Napoleon
That's why you use Brave, Matrix and Librewolf (Steam actually does not sell your info but they still collect way more than they should)
Acetyl Nov 7, 2023 @ 1:25pm 
Originally posted by Mr_Blank:
Google and steam and discord and opera gx all probably sell my information so why should I care when my phones doing it to
“There’s nothing we can do.” -Napoleon
Martin Blank was a biophysicist prominent in the magnetobiology area. Known for suggesting that DNA may behave like a fractal antenna depending on its shape and layout.
Acetyl Nov 7, 2023 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by Acetyl:
Originally posted by Mr_Blank:
Google and steam and discord and opera gx all probably sell my information so why should I care when my phones doing it to
“There’s nothing we can do.” -Napoleon
Martin Blank was a biophysicist prominent in the magnetobiology area. Known for suggesting that DNA may behave like a fractal antenna depending on its shape and layout.
Wow, he was 31,151 days old. The 3355th prime. As seems to happen often his death date matches his birthday in one of the multiplicative methods.
Fajita Jim Nov 7, 2023 @ 2:05pm 
Originally posted by Acetyl:
Martin Blank was a biophysicist prominent in the magnetobiology area. Known for suggesting that DNA may behave like a fractal antenna depending on its shape and layout.

You need a frequency of at least 3,000mhz to penetrate the skin. 5G tops out at 300mhz, nowhere near.
No. I genuinely had to check, if my phone even has bluetooth. I haven't used it in like a decade.
Acetyl Nov 7, 2023 @ 2:18pm 
Originally posted by Fajita Jim:
Originally posted by Acetyl:
Martin Blank was a biophysicist prominent in the magnetobiology area. Known for suggesting that DNA may behave like a fractal antenna depending on its shape and layout.

You need a frequency of at least 3,000mhz to penetrate the skin. 5G tops out at 300mhz, nowhere near.
It's the inverse. The lower the frequency the greater the penetration depth, in organisms and water in particular. At higher frequencies there are absorption windows in water and some other effects, milllimeter wave sin particular have to enter by coupling to blood within superficial capillaries, receptors, and following the sweat glands into the body (as they act like helical antennas).

5G has mid low and high band, which I haven't kept track of but last I knew low band was proposed ~600 MHz, mid 2 - 6 GHz, and high 30 - 60 GHz. Auctions were ongoing. WiGig in particular will be 60 GHz however. Wi-Fi 6 uses 6 GHz.
GunsForBucks Nov 7, 2023 @ 2:27pm 
Originally posted by Acetyl:
Originally posted by Fajita Jim:

You need a frequency of at least 3,000mhz to penetrate the skin. 5G tops out at 300mhz, nowhere near.
It's the inverse. The lower the frequency the greater the penetration depth, in organisms and water in particular. At higher frequencies there are absorption windows in water and some other effects, milllimeter wave sin particular have to enter by coupling to blood within superficial capillaries, receptors, and following the sweat glands into the body (as they act like helical antennas).

5G has mid low and high band, which I haven't kept track of but last I knew low band was proposed ~600 MHz, mid 2 - 6 GHz, and high 30 - 60 GHz. Auctions were ongoing. WiGig in particular will be 60 GHz however. Wi-Fi 6 uses 6 GHz.
basically 5G enters microwave range
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