Should the homeless be given tiny houses ?

[WhiteKitt]

Hi,

that kinda sounds like a solution. Or if you use a white festival tent and attach it to a porta potty and some camping stuff it could give people some form of dignity

and if you put these tents on a nice field they can form a society and maybe cultivate veggies and potatoes or something idk

i think ppL just wanne keep discussing the issue instead of dishing out some stuff or just create some kind of homeless camp idk

just messed up that people in our "modern" society feel the need to defecate on the streets to make a point... i mean: really ?

I Hope to start a more mature discussion that actually make people see that this is not actually funny. People on the streets. Also for your lives! ( a crazy homeless person on crack could attack you randomly )

Maybe think about that before "jumping a homeless" for some tiktok S

This is f-ing bs bros

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAlAflY0c6c&ab_channel=SP343

[Bad Aim]

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There isn't a solution because the Left idealize the homeless. They are sacred to them or something weird. As such, the Left won’t allow a homeless camping area (will call a gueto) or any form financially viable collective habitation. You have to give then mansions or they will complain a lot.

Homeless people are homeless people because they dislike the notion of modern lives in society. They want freedom and can’t adapt to a strict word with rules. Many have some sort of mental issues. So, they usually don’t like the shelters because there are rules there.

I think a camping area would be great for everybody, you cant camp in public squares. They are public and do not belong to homeless. On the other hand, camping areas are somewhere the homeless can enjoy their life without rules.

I heard it was tried in NY, I don’t know what happened there.

I don't know where to start on this one. This reply is so full of assumptions, logical errors, and stereotypes.

"Homeless people are homeless people because they dislike the notion of modern lives in society" This statement is much like "all black people are good at sports" or "all asian people are good at math". You are taking a group of people and placing a stereotype onto them. Not only are you wrong but this is rather offensive. Do some homeless people dislike the notion of modern lives? Probably. I have worked with a couple where that was defiantly the case. A lot of people with this mindset (not all) will often go into a forest or other nature setting and attempt to live their lives there.

"They want freedom and can’t adapt to a strict word with rules" Where the hell is this coming from? Again, you are over generalizing and making assumptions. Most all people can adapt to different situations. The state (and city) I live in already has a tiny house program. They are very full and have a waiting list, prompting the city to look for more places to set up tiny houses. With help, most of these people are adapting pretty well.

"Many have some sort of mental issues" The one point we can agree with, but I would point out that I believe most people over estimate the whole homelessness and mental issues thing. If you ever get a chance to either work with or volunteer working with the homeless population, please do it. I think you might be surprised at what you find.

"I think a camping area would be great for everybody, you cant camp in public squares. They are public and do not belong to homeless. On the other hand, camping areas are somewhere the homeless can enjoy their life without rules." My city tried camping area's before settling on the tiny home concept. What ended up happening was a large collection of trash as the area had no or inadequate trash bins. Camping in the dead of winter causes problems, so the homeless were making camp fires. Sometimes these campfires would not be put out properly or made to big, causing tents to be consumed in flames. Also causing injuries and a couple of deaths. Camping is a bad idea. And do you honestly think that the city saying "no fires even if it is 20 degrees F (-7 degree C)" is going to stop them? And do you think it would be ethical to try to stop them. A tent does not offer much warmth.

Tiny homes work. There are rules that the residents have to follow, but most of them do and those that don't get help or are evicted if they are unwilling to follow the rules. Tiny homes offer heat.

I really don't see why this is such an issue, unless there is a lot of misinformation about what is actually happening. And based on what I have read in this thread alone, I would say that there is misinformation.

[MEGA MAN]

ha snails are the real winners bec they can afford housing!

[TGC> The Games Collector]

Another way to give them an address is by handing out smartphones.

[Ulfrinn]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Candyy ♡:

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That might explain why I haven't seen any homeless people in my life. They all got homes. (o_o)
It gets could out there. I can confirm. I was outside today. It was cold.

Me when 17 degrees outside: 🥶🥶

The idea is that goverment gives them houses for free, and then when they get a job they start paying it or at least that is what I understood 🤷‍♀️

Why would they get a job and start paying for it if they are getting hot for free when they don't work?

[ShadowShifterMarlith]

I have the Solution to the issues here:

Should the homeless be given tiny houses ?


No, the Homeless should give Single Floor Homes that hold up to like 3 Bedrooms...

The Immigrants should get tiny Homes... Just not in America,
we can put them at the border of Mexico maybe...

[Sidakte]

Początkowo opublikowane przez ᛋᚺᚨᚾᛞᛟᚱ:

Has no one considered that we potentially do not have to provide support for these individuals who have been dealt a particularly challenging hand in life? Allow the nation-level entity to determine the action they seek to pursue with respect to this portion of the population and their housing circumstances. Why do we continually have to impose a responsibility on our own shoulders? I am thoroughly convinced that everyone has adequate anxieties, obligations, and matters requiring management that exist within their individual sphere of life.

this is true enough.
to me it boils down to individuals. states will do their part but that is relying too much on what kind of government runs X nation.
it's not like someone enforces said responsibility to anyone either imho.

[TGC> The Games Collector]

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Another way to give them an address is by handing out smartphones.

How is a smartphone going to give someone an address?

These things have an internet, and thus an email address.
Finally tax offices can send their demands then!

[Majestic Turkey]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dom:

Yes, housing is a recognized right in the UN declaration and it must be upheld. There's still a lot to do but countries across the world have signed this and are committed to the agenda.

Roof is not a privilege.

There are clear studies that providing housing is less costly than the problems that homelessness causes to the society. Particularly when it comes to crime, drugs and diseases. People who are worried about taxpayer money should support housing for all. It's cheaper.

Taking the most common example: US spends approximately $15 billion a year on homeless people. $50,000 per year per homeless. That's alone for the support services that don't provide a roof; when you combine crimes and other problems, this costs multiplies by a lot.

It costs $31,065 a year to criminalize a homeless - $10,051 per year to provide them housing.
Would you choose cruelty or the humanitarian approach, once the cost is considered?

UN declarations have no standing, it may as well be pulled out of ones behind, certainly those who voted for such things aren't opening their mansions for homeless and refugees.

You can't provide a roof for the mentally ill without institutionalizing them, the "human rights people" decided their freedom mattered more so don't bring on the arbitrary human rights arguments, they are responsible for what we see now.

All these words like humanitarian and human rights are laced with leftist assumptions which have proven to do more harm than good, and are applied constantly out of any context they belong.

The cost figures are again just nonsense, the cost to incarcerate and institutionalize are based on red tape from exactly the people who claim to have humanitarian solutions.

And all this is made absurd by flooding in millions of further dependents through open borders.

Why do you think glorious socialist paradises like Canada are now giving people the assisted yeet solution, best you go away because they are broke.

[Reddit]

Początkowo opublikowane przez fbx2 Ravenclan.EU :

Hi,

that kinda sounds like a solution. Or if you use a white festival tent and attach it to a porta potty and some camping stuff it could give people some form of dignity

and if you put these tents on a nice field they can form a society and maybe cultivate veggies and potatoes or something idk

i think ppL just wanne keep discussing the issue instead of dishing out some stuff or just create some kind of homeless camp idk

just messed up that people in our "modern" society feel the need to defecate on the streets to make a point... i mean: really ?

I Hope to start a more mature discussion that actually make people see that this is not actually funny. People on the streets. Also for your lives! ( a crazy homeless person on crack could attack you randomly )

Maybe think about that before "jumping a homeless" for some tiktok S

This is f-ing bs bros

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAlAflY0c6c&ab_channel=SP343

i think yes

[Candyy]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ulfrinn:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Candyy ♡:

Me when 17 degrees outside: 🥶🥶

The idea is that goverment gives them houses for free, and then when they get a job they start paying it or at least that is what I understood 🤷‍♀️

Why would they get a job and start paying for it if they are getting hot for free when they don't work?

They HAVE to get the job :V

[↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Candyy ♡:

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Why would they get a job and start paying for it if they are getting hot for free when they don't work?

They HAVE to get the job :V

You make it sound like a disease.

[Ulfrinn]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Candyy ♡:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ulfrinn:

Why would they get a job and start paying for it if they are getting hot for free when they don't work?

They HAVE to get the job :V

And if they don't?

[Irene ❤]

San Francisco has no more homeless people on the street. It is suddenly cleaned up and it's very different all because Xu visited.

It's clear evidence that the government can do it if they want to. But they only do it when their rich friends visit.

[↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Irene ❤:

San Francisco has no more homeless people on the street. It is suddenly cleaned up and it's very different all because Xu visited.

It's clear evidence that the government can do it if they want to. But they only do it when their rich friends visit.

Did they also buy them new suits so they don't look all raggy?

[Xero_Daxter]

Fun fact but a handful of homeless people are homeless by choice and don't want to work. I said some, not all.