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Psycho 8/out./2023 às 16:35
John Wick - Overrated?
I just watched John Wick 4 with my family... and.. I've gotta say, that was definitely an underwhelming movie. It was 2 hours and 40 minutes long, and only had maybe 5 total action sequences?

But it has a 94% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes!

Not to mention Keanu's acting in all the John Wick movies. Don't get me wrong, I love Keanu Reeves, but his dialogue in all the movies has been cheesy, especially John Wick 4... I don't know if it's intentional or not, it makes the movies kinda humerous with the way he delivers his lines, but he just doesn't display good acting skills.

I liked John Wick 1 because it was full of action and not that much dialogue, but the 4th chapter is pretty much the opposite... way too much filler dialogue and not enough action, in my opinion.

But do you think John Wick is overrated? At the very least, after seeing John Wick 4 I think it is WAY too highly rated. If you've seen the 4th one, what are your thoughts on it? I can't be the only one who thought it was really lackluster.
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Angel 8/out./2023 às 17:52 
Escrito originalmente por nullpo:
If you want narrative, I say go away from john wick. But for action it's one of the best.
I've always thought John Wick 4 got influenced by Hong Kong cinema as they usually lack storyline but have non-stop action for hours i.e. Jackie Chan old school movies.

John Wick 5 is coming. I just wish they made a decent game instead of "Hex".
Kamiyama 8/out./2023 às 17:54 
I've never seen a John Wick movie.

I watch Escape from New York yesterday. I wish there were more Snake Plisskin films.
Nekoborg 8/out./2023 às 17:55 
Escrito originalmente por Psycho:
I just watched John Wick 4 with my family... and.. I've gotta say, that was definitely an underwhelming movie. It was 2 hours and 40 minutes long, and only had maybe 5 total action sequences?

But it has a 94% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes!

Not to mention Keanu's acting in all the John Wick movies. Don't get me wrong, I love Keanu Reeves, but his dialogue in all the movies has been cheesy, especially John Wick 4... I don't know if it's intentional or not, it makes the movies kinda humerous with the way he delivers his lines, but he just doesn't display good acting skills.

I liked John Wick 1 because it was full of action and not that much dialogue, but the 4th chapter is pretty much the opposite... way too much filler dialogue and not enough action, in my opinion.

But do you think John Wick is overrated? At the very least, after seeing John Wick 4 I think it is WAY too highly rated. If you've seen the 4th one, what are your thoughts on it? I can't be the only one who thought it was really lackluster.

Keanu Reeves is a good actor.

Not long ago I stumbled across one of his first real movies with other famous actors like Crispin Glover and Dennis Hopper.

The movie is called River's Edge.

It is about a close knit group of high school friends in their junior and senior year. One of them murders another one. The rest of them are more concerned about loosing another friend to police so they try to do everything to keep their murderous friend out of prison. The only one from the group who is thinking straight is the character played by Keanu Reeves.

The movie is loosely based on a real life incident not unlike is portrayed in this thriller crime drama.

I recommend watching it.
Kargor 8/out./2023 às 17:57 
Not everyone likes the same movies.

I've never even heard that name, and a quick check with Wikipedia suggests that it will never go on my shopping list.

Are these good movies? Some people might like them.
Do I like them? No.
Tonepoet 8/out./2023 às 18:47 
Probably not based upon what I am reading here to be honest. I mean, I never watched John Wick, and to be honest, I do not watch movies much in general, including many of the ones I am about to mention, but the 4th installment of most movie franchises is kind of doomed to have poor critical reception.

How many people like Star Wars: The Phantom Menace, Indiana Jones and The Crystal Skull, The Matrix Resurrections or Peter Jackson's hobbit trilogy? Rocky 4 is considered something of a guilty pleasure, perhaps even more-so than the average Rocky movie, and even Toy Story 4 isn't as well received as the first three movies.

Heck, The Terminator and Ghost Busters only had two good outings a piece. I'm also skeptical of Bill & Tedd Face the music since what I've seen of the trailer seems to undo much of what made Bogus Journey's climax so epic.

You only need two or three good outings for a series to achieve cinematic prestige, so it seems to me that the series likely isn't overrated if you're only finding something to complain about by the fourth entry.

You only have a very limited timeframe in which new entries of a series can be stylistically consistent with themselves, and insofar as movies go, the fourth entry is where production studios start getting weary of repeating the formula for success, and either start trying more experimental things or attempting to update and reboot the series for a new audience.

Basically, what I am saying is that you should expect to be disappointed in the fourth film of a franchise. John Wick might not ever be as good as it once was again, but if we're treating it fairly, it shouldn't have to be if those first three films lived up to the hype. You earn your legendary status by the third movie, and anything past that is just an overtime bonus round.
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kharille 8/out./2023 às 18:59 
Got bored with all the double taps, felt like enter the dragon with double taps. And him holding up his jacket to shield himself felt like a low budget prop.
LoveAndPeace 8/out./2023 às 19:06 
huge fan
zeke 8/out./2023 às 19:10 
I got dragged along to a few of them. They are 'all flash and no substance' kind of movies (though the flash, the choreography is admittedly very good - still not my cup of tea). It made WAY too much sense when I learned the movies were directed by a stuntman.
tmwfte 8/out./2023 às 19:14 
John Wick pales in comparison to Susan Cooper.
Haiku's Knife 8/out./2023 às 19:26 
All those John Wick movies are stupid. Generic power fantasy garbage.
Arvaos 8/out./2023 às 19:29 
If you enjoy nonstop action, try The Night Comes for Us and The Raid.

You will be blown away by both.

Both are on Netflix.
Sharkster_00 9/out./2023 às 1:16 
I don’t think for me it’s overrated I enjoy all 4 of the movies so far and I recently finished The Continental spinoff about Winston’s backstory from the movies. Which I highly recommend watching cause the stunts and violence are great just like the movies.

I can’t wait to see the future of John wick since there are 2 more spinoffs in the works like one about Sophia Halle baileys character from the third movie and one about the crime family that John wick was from in John wick 3.
And of course John wick 5 is still coming so I can’t wait to see it depending if it still gonna have keanu reeves because of the 4th ones ending.
Última edição por Sharkster_00; 9/out./2023 às 1:16
Candyy 9/out./2023 às 1:56 
Idk I was never interested in that movie v:
TruebornJester 9/out./2023 às 3:10 
IP Man is better
They are dumb fun movies to watch.

Not everyone wants every movie to be some preachy French art-house thinly veiled porno that was made just to buy out the critics and get the top "Movie Snob" awards. :SafeForWork:
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