Grim Reaper 2023 年 4 月 7 日 上午 7:19
Why don't Nintendo just port their old games
Ever since yesterday I got this urge to play Ocarina Of Time, I played it a few years back and I do own it just don't got the charger for my 3DS anymore so I'd have to get a new one. Regarding their old N64 titles however, I seriously don't get why Nintendo still just holds onto them? It's not like you can even get an N64 anymore lol, other than that one shop in Japan or if you don't live in Japan you just find it from a third party.

Wouldn't it just be more profitable to port these old games to PC and potentially other systems? I mean it can't possibly be that hard and probably a hell of a lot more profitable than just holding onto them. Especially considering the respect these games still have.
最後修改者:Grim Reaper; 2023 年 4 月 7 日 上午 7:22
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MinionJoe 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 12:50 
引用自 Raelic
There's a reason you don't see a bunch of Youtube videos playing Nintendo games on PC.
Because Nintendo may decide to start claiming all monetization of gameplay videos again.

Or because they know they've not ported any games to PC and will levy litigation against the channel.

Plenty of reasons there are relatively few Nintendo gameplay videos on YouTube, but they all pretty much come down to Nintendo being tight-fisted with their IP.

And porting their products to PC will loosen that grip. Which is why they will never do it.
kingjames488 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 12:52 
引用自 Dracoco OwO
引用自 kingjames488
they do? or did?
The problem is that many games are still left out and Nintendo doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about many of these hence why this thread potentially exist to begin with. Because so many of these games aren't available in legality as well.
well ofc not, they're a cashgrab company... check out my rant about pokemon in the other thread.
ZZZZZ 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 12:54 
引用自 crunchyfrog
引用自 CaptainG
it solely restricts unrightful distribution, it does not forbid me from playing it on my toaster or on my christmas sock
No it doesn't as it's unenforceable, but try to do anything to it like redistribute it....

The point is it has NOTHING to do with that upload you said.
but thats what I wanted to say, I can extract the files to whatever gadget I want without violating any law aslong as I dont distribute it to a 3rd party, I can also access the files from these gadgets without any violations.. aslong as OP owns the 3DS cards he can play them on any device he wishes
crunchyfrog 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 12:56 
引用自 CaptainG
引用自 crunchyfrog
No it doesn't as it's unenforceable, but try to do anything to it like redistribute it....

The point is it has NOTHING to do with that upload you said.
but thats what I wanted to say, I can extract the files to whatever gadget I want without violating any law aslong as I dont distribute it to a 3rd party, I can also access the files from these gadgets without any violations.. aslong as OP owns the 3DS cards he can play them on any device he wishes
Oh fair enough then. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Dracoco OwO 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 12:57 
引用自 kingjames488
引用自 Dracoco OwO
The problem is that many games are still left out and Nintendo doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about many of these hence why this thread potentially exist to begin with. Because so many of these games aren't available in legality as well.
well ofc not, they're a cashgrab company... check out my rant about pokemon in the other thread.
Nah but that's what i'm saying though they care about their most popular franchise but some obscure af games no. Not counting basically portable console games that aren't Pokémon specifically because good luck finding them on the Switch.
最後修改者:Dracoco OwO; 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 12:57
Basarab Laiota 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 1:00 
Nintendo is all about innovating with older technology, not doing the same thing over and over on new hardware
Raelic 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 1:02 
It's always the broke people that seem to like to advocate pirating and seem the most obsessed with this kind of thing. I mean non-broke people dabble from my experience, but it's always my broke friend that tries to justify playing games they don't actually pay for.
Tonepoet 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 1:05 
Nintendo's whole backlog of games are going to be reserved for re-releases on their own consoles if made available at all. They use their games to incentivize sales of their hardware.

Something else people neglect to consider is that keeping copies of old games scarce does come with a few indirect benefits. The first is that the scarcity keeps the value of secondhand copies high for one thing, which benefits Nintendo by adding collector's value to their games, making you more likely to buy them due to fear of missing out on them. The second is that keeping their backlog of old games off the market means they do not necessarily necessarily compete with newer games for sales.

Also, in the case that Nintendo does decide to rerelease an older game, they can charge more for it due to the relatively low supply to demand.

Other companies have heavily diluted the value of their games with constant rereleases

For example, you can be pretty certain that with each passing console generation since the playstation II, that Sega will rerelease a rather expansive compilation of their older games for the newest consoles. Each each of the individual games in the Sega Genesis Classics collection are only being sold for 99 cents each (or about 33 cents each if you buy the whole bundle of available games at once), and Sega decided to delist most of the Genesis Sonic games that used to be available[www.gamespot.com] just so they could sell Sonic Origins for a higher price on steam.

Even so, it is going to be a tough sell since I don't think the games were removed from the console versions of Sega Genesis Classics (Although S.G.C. never had Sonic C.D.).

Meanwhile, nobody would really have thought twice about buying Super Mario 3D All Stars for the Nintendo switch 'cause there were never really any other options for buying those games new this generation anyway.


引用自 Kamiyama
I'm not going to link roms or emulators here.

Emulators are considered legal under current U.S. jurisprudence thanks to Sony v. Connectix[www.copyright.gov] and Sony v. Bleem[www.copyright.gov], so I'll link to an emulator:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1118310/RetroArch/

That's as far as I'll go though 'cause that's as far as I'm certain about any legal matters. You're on your own for figuring out how to get any games legally working with it.
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kingjames488 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 1:07 
引用自 Dracoco OwO
引用自 kingjames488
well ofc not, they're a cashgrab company... check out my rant about pokemon in the other thread.
Nah but that's what i'm saying though they care about their most popular franchise but some obscure af games no. Not counting basically portable console games that aren't Pokémon specifically because good luck finding them on the Switch.
so you want a version of that crappy men in black game I had in the 90s for the switch?
Dracoco OwO 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 1:08 
引用自 kingjames488
引用自 Dracoco OwO
Nah but that's what i'm saying though they care about their most popular franchise but some obscure af games no. Not counting basically portable console games that aren't Pokémon specifically because good luck finding them on the Switch.
so you want a version of that crappy men in black game I had in the 90s for the switch?
Obviously no i don't really dwell on the past but i guess some do?
kingjames488 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 1:10 
引用自 Dracoco OwO
引用自 kingjames488
so you want a version of that crappy men in black game I had in the 90s for the switch?
Obviously no i don't really dwell on the past but i guess some do?
I don't even want a switch... for me the apex of nintendo was in the late 90s/early 2000s with donkey kong country and perfect dark.
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Boblin the Goblin 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 1:11 
引用自 Raelic
It's always the broke people that seem to like to advocate pirating and seem the most obsessed with this kind of thing. I mean non-broke people dabble from my experience, but it's always my broke friend that tries to justify playing games they don't actually pay for.


This is false.

When a game that is no longer produced(for this example, I will use Xenogears) can cost anywhere from $70 to $150 depending on the seller and requires a console that is no longer being made(PS1), there is no reasonable expectation from an average consumer to pay that money that the developer and publisher will never get.

The argument of "Only broke people argue for this." has been proven wrong by Steam itself as once they started making buying games easy, piracy drastically went down.

Piracy is always a convenience problem, not a price problem.
Dracoco OwO 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 1:12 
引用自 kingjames488
引用自 Dracoco OwO
Obviously no i don't really dwell on the past but i guess some do?
I don't even want a switch... for me the apex of nintendo was in the late 90s/early 2000s with donkey kong country and perfect dark.
I honestly don't want a Switch either, most of the games they have i'm not interested in. they just don't release anything actually good.
Tonepoet 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 1:21 
引用自 SlowMango
引用自 Raelic
It's always the broke people that seem to like to advocate pirating and seem the most obsessed with this kind of thing. I mean non-broke people dabble from my experience, but it's always my broke friend that tries to justify playing games they don't actually pay for.


This is false.

When a game that is no longer produced(for this example, I will use Xenogears) can cost anywhere from $70 to $150 depending on the seller and requires a console that is no longer being made(PS1), there is no reasonable expectation from an average consumer to pay that money that the developer and publisher will never get.

The argument of "Only broke people argue for this." has been proven wrong by Steam itself as once they started making buying games easy, piracy drastically went down.

Piracy is always a convenience problem, not a price problem.

Um, if it wasn't a price problem, then you wouldn't have to mention just how highly priced xenogears was secondhand because that would not be a factor. However, with that having been said, its generally my experience that it's not just poor people. I've had the whole piracy debate with plenty of people before. It's not a debate to be had here though, so I'm not going to go through the talking points.
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Grim Reaper 2023 年 4 月 7 日 下午 1:28 
引用自 SlowMango
引用自 Raelic
It's always the broke people that seem to like to advocate pirating and seem the most obsessed with this kind of thing. I mean non-broke people dabble from my experience, but it's always my broke friend that tries to justify playing games they don't actually pay for.


This is false.

When a game that is no longer produced(for this example, I will use Xenogears) can cost anywhere from $70 to $150 depending on the seller and requires a console that is no longer being made(PS1), there is no reasonable expectation from an average consumer to pay that money that the developer and publisher will never get.

The argument of "Only broke people argue for this." has been proven wrong by Steam itself as once they started making buying games easy, piracy drastically went down.

Piracy is always a convenience problem, not a price problem.
I mean it's still technically a price problem. But like buying a new console for a game which isn't native to that system and came out in the 1990's well yeah I mean it's just an absurd ask.
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