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ambi 21 jun, 2023 @ 4:31
Reddit begins FIRING its moderators!
reddit has gone FULL ELON MUSK!

reddit's ceo is on record saying that he admires the owner of twitter.

https://www.ndtv.com/feature/reddit-ceo-praises-elon-musks-cost-cutting-moves-amid-widespread-protest-4133130

Reddit CEO Steve Huffman has praised Elon Musk's handling of Twitter's finances, praising the aggressive cost-cutting and layoffs at the microblogging platform.

now he's mass-firing moderators who are resisting his attempt to reform reddit.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/reddit-removed-moderators-behind-the-latest-protests-before-restoring-a-few-of-them/ar-AA1cOEVc

Reddit has started removing moderator teams managing subreddits that switched the labeling on their communities to Not Safe For Work (NSFW) in the latest protests against the site.

r/interestingas♥♥♥♥ (11 million subscribers), r/TIHI (1.7 million subscribers), and r/♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (1.6 million subscribers), which had all gone NSFW or loosened their rules, are currently unmoderated.

Removal of mods is perhaps Reddit’s biggest action yet against its moderators, who are unpaid volunteers that sometimes dedicate years of their lives to managing these communities. Some mods said they felt threatened by messages sent by the company last week indicating it would unseat moderators who didn’t work to reopen their communities, and now that it’s a reality, the effects on those communities could be massive.

twitter fired their agenda-pushing moderators. reddit is following suit. what site is next?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPQFF0oqsto
Senast ändrad av ambi; 21 jun, 2023 @ 4:33
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LOL Reddit won't end till they ban the porn. :MMForFun:
Xero_Daxter 21 jun, 2023 @ 9:54 
Now they have to get real jobs.
Ulfrinn 21 jun, 2023 @ 10:17 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Dusk of Oolacile:
Ursprungligen skrivet av HulaGirl86:
Reddit mods deserve this
You think so? /r/steam is operated by the exact same people as this very discussion board. Let's say Valve would shut the entire discussion board down tomorrow, and all this here, all game hubs etc would be gone. Would you say "lul the mods deserve it"?

That's like saying if you fire the manager of a store, that store closes down. It's not a realistic comparison, they simply get someone else to replace them who is willing to follow company policies. Reddit is firing moderators who do not comply with new policies, meaning, they'll be replaced with ones that do.
Mathius 21 jun, 2023 @ 10:22 
Ursprungligen skrivet av CaptainG:
reddit is 99% forum and 1% social media since u can follow people.. besides the follow option it has no real social media functions

Jesus, people really are special these days. You think a site has to have a follow option to be social media?

What do you think the word social means, exactly?

Ursprungligen skrivet av Dusk of Oolacile:
You think so? /r/steam is operated by the exact same people as this very discussion board. Let's say Valve would shut the entire discussion board down tomorrow, and all this here, all game hubs etc would be gone. Would you say "lul the mods deserve it"?

Gee.... you're so close to understanding how capitalism works here.
Crystal Sharrd 21 jun, 2023 @ 10:32 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Aluvard:
Well, after all those "great" changes, Twitter is now worth 1/3 of what Musk paid in 2022.
Reddit will probably slowly follow the same footsteps.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Rio 21 jun, 2023 @ 10:34 
Course twitter is worth less now, the government stop giving it money.
Mathius 21 jun, 2023 @ 10:58 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Aluvard:
Well, after all those "great" changes, Twitter is now worth 1/3 of what Musk paid in 2022.
Reddit will probably slowly follow the same footsteps.

The term "worth" is highly subjective. One of the few and most valuable things my father taught me is that something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

You can get a price guide and tell me your baseball cards are worth x amount of dollars, but try taking them to a card shop and getting that price.

Much of what you're calling Twitter's "worth" is based on the market, which is a. subject to change, and b. highly swayed by public opinion.

In terms of logistics and profitability, if what Elon says is true (and I'm not saying it is), he made Twitter a lot more profitable by removing a lot of redundant staff.

This gives him two means to build the platform back up.

First, his own net worth affords him the ability to take a loss on certain projects to make up for, or even promote others.

Wal~Mart makes very little markup on their consumable goods, but it gets people in the store regularly where they charge you sometimes 200% markup on domestic goods.

Second, if Twitter is more profitable now, that means he can sustain it over the long haul and do damage control on their reputation.

You're seeing a push back now (finally) against certain types of behavior, but also there is a whole generation of children being raised a certain way. Things generally happen in cycles.

Elon is generally successful for doing two things... knowing when to take action, and generating his own hype.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ad Victoriam !:
Freedom of speech is non negociable !

You can yell whatever you want, that doesn't make it true. Twitter, or Reddit can ban you for whatever they want to.

You don't have a legal right to "Freedom of Speech" on a social media platform.

As much as you want to pretend your facebook friends are real, social media is a privately owned, private community where you have to be accepted as a member and subject to their rules.
Senast ändrad av Mathius; 21 jun, 2023 @ 11:00
Jackie Daytona 21 jun, 2023 @ 11:19 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Dusk of Oolacile:
Ursprungligen skrivet av HulaGirl86:
Reddit mods deserve this
You think so? /r/steam is operated by the exact same people as this very discussion board.
Your info might be out of date. Those people are gone. (From Steam, at least.)
Ursprungligen skrivet av Dusk of Oolacile:
Let's say Valve would shut the entire discussion board down tomorrow, and all this here, all game hubs etc would be gone. Would you say "lul the mods deserve it"?
Well, the old mods got kicked out for doing this exact thing on Steam that's now happening on Reddit. So, yes.

Their power is a privilege, not a right. A privilege they've wielded unfairly. For many years.

This has been a long time coming. The Reddit mods have no real power. And they are finally about to learn that.

Reddit mods have never been fair or reasonable. Even their identities were hidden to remove all accountability. They have benefited from undeserved power for far too long. I shed no tears for them.
Senast ändrad av Jackie Daytona; 21 jun, 2023 @ 11:19
Netaris 21 jun, 2023 @ 11:22 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Mathius:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Ad Victoriam !:
Freedom of speech is non negociable !

You can yell whatever you want, that doesn't make it true. Twitter, or Reddit can ban you for whatever they want to.

You don't have a legal right to "Freedom of Speech" on a social media platform.

Communism detected ! Tactical assessment : Red redditers victory ... IMPOSSIBLE !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urnw1nvox8M
kingjames488 21 jun, 2023 @ 11:25 
doesn't surprise me... they never did actually bother to tell me why they banned me...

you can be pretty sure when something that claims to be a "public forum" is stealthily banning people without explanation that there's something not quite right going on.
Ganger 21 jun, 2023 @ 11:29 
If the boss says he/she wants change, as a employee, you must do what they say or get the boot, simple as.

Personal views and opinions should be left at home when you come to work. Maybe it's just me, but im over the last couple of years. im sensing that left wing views and people are slowly being silenced.
Lambros 21 jun, 2023 @ 11:29 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Mathius:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Aluvard:
Well, after all those "great" changes, Twitter is now worth 1/3 of what Musk paid in 2022.
Reddit will probably slowly follow the same footsteps.

The term "worth" is highly subjective. One of the few and most valuable things my father taught me is that something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

You can get a price guide and tell me your baseball cards are worth x amount of dollars, but try taking them to a card shop and getting that price.

Much of what you're calling Twitter's "worth" is based on the market, which is a. subject to change, and b. highly swayed by public opinion.

In terms of logistics and profitability, if what Elon says is true (and I'm not saying it is), he made Twitter a lot more profitable by removing a lot of redundant staff.

This gives him two means to build the platform back up.

First, his own net worth affords him the ability to take a loss on certain projects to make up for, or even promote others.

Wal~Mart makes very little markup on their consumable goods, but it gets people in the store regularly where they charge you sometimes 200% markup on domestic goods.

Second, if Twitter is more profitable now, that means he can sustain it over the long haul and do damage control on their reputation.

You're seeing a push back now (finally) against certain types of behavior, but also there is a whole generation of children being raised a certain way. Things generally happen in cycles.

Elon is generally successful for doing two things... knowing when to take action, and generating his own hype.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ad Victoriam !:
Freedom of speech is non negociable !

You can yell whatever you want, that doesn't make it true. Twitter, or Reddit can ban you for whatever they want to.

You don't have a legal right to "Freedom of Speech" on a social media platform.

As much as you want to pretend your facebook friends are real, social media is a privately owned, private community where you have to be accepted as a member and subject to their rules.

Sure its their platform Reddit or Steam or Twitter, but legally should it be private as you say going into the future?

Cause its highly inflammatory to ban people when they just trying to express their opinion.

And its not like you or anyone knows everybody on those platforms and thus exclusion is not straightforward. As its mainly public forum on that basis.

We dont know everyone here and its unrealistic to say we can, thats why its public. Though the private entity can deplatform the forum they are paying for at any time.
kingjames488 21 jun, 2023 @ 11:36 
seems like we're approaching a time where some internet resources are so integral to so many things they should be held to a higher standard...

idk if anyone actually realises how many companies rely on platforms like reddit or twitch to be an integral part of their game (ex. fishing planet almost requiring twitch for drops and OSRS directly involving reddit in their development strategy).

not to mention people calling reddit "the front page of the internet" and almost anything you google leading to a reddit thread...

this is some massive social ****hole you've all dug.
Netaris 21 jun, 2023 @ 11:38 
To respond more seriously to Mathius :

- I'm fine with a no political subjects policy
- I'm fine with a "we-allow-all-opinions-if-it's-legal" policy
- I'm not fine at all with a "only-one-side-have-the-right-to-express-themselves-but-also-insult-threaten-harrass-without-any-punishment" policy

It's 1 or 0, either you allow all sides to speak, either you force them all to shut up, but allowing only one to speak is being a supporter of this side. The very mean of a private company is to make money, not to interfere with politics by favoring one side or another. So, either they start behaving better and stop their interferences or the problems they cause will be treated anyway, like the Twitter problem was.
ThemePark 21 jun, 2023 @ 11:39 
The whole blackout thing was akin to a child being used to get whatever candy they wanted from the store for years, but their parents suddenly growing a backbone and saying no. Then the child throws a temper tantrum, and the parents say "You'd better behave, or we're going home right now, and we won't go to the theme park". And instead of behaving, the child instead decides to trash the store, knocking down all of the goods, and then acting surprised when they and their parents are banned from the store.

And if you want an idea of how poorly the move went down, check this post (in Best comment mode) out. xD

https://old.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/14bvwe1/rsteam_and_reddits_new_policies/
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