Opinions on the 'dont say gay' law in florida

[fender jag]

This is going to get controversial and ill prolly get banned but screw it. they suck at baseball and lsu is arguably better

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Origineel geplaatst door ZZZZZ:

as non american I dont know this law

Basically the governer of florida made a law that prevents schools from forcing lgbt propaganda on children

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Origineel geplaatst door SupressedBraincell:

Origineel geplaatst door ZZZZZ:

as non american I dont know this law

Basically the governer of florida made a law that prevents schools from forcing lgbt propaganda on children

yeah umm... how does that work in practice. like it's a law but a law is still a law.

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Origineel geplaatst door Dom:

Discrimination is wrong.

how is this any better then some of the middle east countries?

[craigsters]

Geesh Gay used to mean being happy and bliss, now even the Dictionary has the sexual innuendo related to LGBT definition

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Origineel geplaatst door sleeps:

Origineel geplaatst door SupressedBraincell:

Basically the governer of florida made a law that prevents schools from forcing lgbt propaganda on children

yeah umm... how does that work in practice. like it's a law but a law is still a law.

Kids who's parents don't really want them exposed to that stuff of course.

[fender jag]

Origineel geplaatst door craigsters:

Geesh Guy used to mean being happy and bliss, now even the Dictionary has the sexual innuendo related to LGBT definition

Its messed up imo. Ive interacted with gay and other people that are for the law. I dont like what they do, but i respect them. Some dont get mad at me. Remember when that bot in csgo casual went around and still is? I was talking to someone with a pride flag in their pfp, i didnt care, there was mutual respect. respect is earned, if you dont treat with respect, dont expect it. Its only the wokes that are like this

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personally, i don't give a damn. although it may be because i'm not florida man. maybe because even though it's discriminatory, it is more like an useless law rather than purely discriminatory. that people give a damn because of the word "gay" in it

[fender jag]

Origineel geplaatst door sleeps:

personally, i don't give a damn. although it may be because i'm not florida man. maybe because even though it's discriminatory, it is more like an useless law rather than purely discriminatory. that people give a damn because of the word "gay" in it

I dont find it discriminitory at all. Parents should be the ones talking to their kids about it, not the musty schools that everybody seems to rag on anyway

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Origineel geplaatst door SupressedBraincell:

Origineel geplaatst door sleeps:

personally, i don't give a damn. although it may be because i'm not florida man. maybe because even though it's discriminatory, it is more like an useless law rather than purely discriminatory. that people give a damn because of the word "gay" in it

I dont find it discriminitory at all. Parents should be the ones talking to their kids about it, not the musty schools that everybody seems to rag on anyway

maybe not for you but for others, any minor discrimination means you are in middle east or something

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

It is really interesting when you actually read the law.

"Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

It basically says not to teach overly young children up to "3rd grade" about sexual relationships.

After that, there is no restriction.

I actually agree with this as a gay person.

You should NOT be teaching kids ANYTHING about sexuality until they are old enough to understand/beyond puberty.

So people freaking out over it think we should be teaching kids under 8 years old about sex.

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Origineel geplaatst door sleeps:

Origineel geplaatst door SupressedBraincell:

I dont find it discriminitory at all. Parents should be the ones talking to their kids about it, not the musty schools that everybody seems to rag on anyway

maybe not for you but for others, any minor discrimination means you are in middle east or something

👍 Good opinion

[fender jag]

Origineel geplaatst door Sir Dookface McFerretballs:

It is really interesting when you actually read the law.

"Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

It basically says not to teach overly young children up to "3rd grade" about gay sexual relationships.

After that, there is no restriction.

I actually agree with this as a gay person.

You should NOT be teaching kids ANYTHING about sexuality until they are old enough to understand/beyond puberty.

So people freaking out over it think we should be teaching kids under 8 years old about sex. :SafeForWork:

Refer to one of my earlier replies

You have my respect sir.

[fender jag]

Honestly, i just want to be a kid again. No worries, didn't have many responsibilities, time flies man

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Origineel geplaatst door SupressedBraincell:

Origineel geplaatst door AD:

Telling people what they can and cannot say is a really stupid way to go about it. Like if a child asks a question about why they saw to girls kiss or something, the teacher should be able to respond honestly. Besides, schools should teach about normal human things, and gays/lesbians are included in that.

I dont like it. Im religious. I dont condemn it nor condone it. How would you feel if your kid was being forced religious beliefs. Same thing with lgbt. I wouldnt feel amazing if my future children had that stuff forced down thier throats. Saying that this is an offensive law is like saying something like dont say God should be illegal

Its not a religious belief, so I dont think its comparable. Its just human sexuality, not something anyone can push on your child, and simply admitting it exists doesnt force it down anyones throat and doesnt condone or condemn it. Im not saying teachers should go into details about the mechanics of how gay/lesbian sex works, just that we shouldnt censor them so they can respond to questions, talk about stuff that comes up and stuff. If they dont want it to be part of the curriculum then they should target that, not what teachers can say. Thats what I called dumb.

Not that I think they should censor the curriculum either, but thats a different topic.

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Origineel geplaatst door Sir Dookface McFerretballs:

It is really interesting when you actually read the law.

"Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

It basically says not to teach overly young children up to "3rd grade" about sexual relationships.

After that, there is no restriction.

I actually agree with this as a gay person.

You should NOT be teaching kids ANYTHING about sexuality until they are old enough to understand/beyond puberty.

So people freaking out over it think we should be teaching kids under 8 years old about sex. :SafeForWork:

Im of course not saying too young kids should be taught it. Just the same age as normal sex ed occurs. Think in my country thats between 13 to 15 years old. Not for kids in kindergarden or something, but I still think teachers should be allowed to answer why a kid saw two girls or two guys kiss (in an age appropriate way, so nothing about sexual relationships in kindergarden).

TLDR: I knew less about the law then I thought because I only picked up on it in online discussions. Its a really stupid name if this is what is says, though. Either way I will leave the discussion, because I dont know enough about the law to actually contribute anything substantial (if I want to be accurate, which I do, and I dont feel like reading a law).

[Dom]

Kids don't have to have sexual education until certain age but they should know early on that gay relationships exist if they are to be treated on an equal level with straight relationships.

Florida book banning goes beyond what would be considered specifically sexually explicit, they've been caught censoring books simply due to minorities being mentioned, regardless of the context.

These are actions to promote heteronormative thinking in the society, rather than protect from explicit material.

The problem is that gay relationships as a whole are treated as something sexually explicit whereas straight relationships are not.