Study: Gen Z make difficult employees

[Fajita Jim]

This issue has been discussed in a few different topics lately, but since I read this article today I figured I'd give it it's own thread this time.

Apparently, Gen Z are spoiled brats. What say you, Gen Z?


https://thehill.com/business/4074677-gen-zers-make-difficult-employees-managers-say/

Excerpt:
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Three-quarters of bosses find Generation Z workers a trifle difficult, a corporate survey has found.

A poll of 1,344 managers and business leaders by ResumeBuilder.com found that 74 percent consider Gen Z employees more challenging than older staffers.

Pressed for specifics, employers did not mince words.

“They think they’re better than you, smarter than you, more capable than you, and they will tell you to your face,” said Akpan Ukeme, head of human resources at SGK Global Shipping Services.

...

On the brighter side, employers have found that Gen Z staffers report to work brimming with ideals and ambitions.

“Compared to other generations, I find Gen Z to be highly innovative and adaptable,” said Adam Garfield, marketing director at Hairbro. “They are not afraid to challenge the status quo and bring new ideas to the table. They also value authenticity and transparency and expect companies to be socially responsible and ethical.”

[Pierce Dalton]

And that surprised... 0 people

[ShadowShifterMarlith]

Xero_Daxter eredeti hozzászólása:

They say Gen Z is struggling. Well I have news for you. I’m actually Upper Middle Class with the money that I make and that’s not including my parents.

Not all Gen Z & Children are Woke enugh to fall into what we call a crumbling society.

Some are ashamed or disappointed they fit into this Category.



Also, just cause you make good money doesn't mean your handling
the world better then people who don't make good money.

Some people don't care about money enough to work for it.
To some people, trying to get rich only puts you in the same shoes as a rich person?
A Stuck Up Loser that only knows the world around the Dollar Bill.
A Someone who gloats about having too much money all the time.

Someone who bashes Corporate Political Greed only to fall into it, themselves.


I dunno, everyone sees the World differently.

[Tito Shivan]

Fajita Jim eredeti hozzászólása:

“They think they’re better than you, smarter than you, more capable than you, and they will tell you to your face,” said Akpan Ukeme, head of human resources at SGK Global Shipping Services.

Thing is they most probably are.
And it's the last part of the sentence what gets that boomer/GenX stuck in middle-management for years to pull their hairs at them.

It's not they're difficult employees. They're difficult for the way older management are used to work.

Mind women were also once 'difficult to work with'. But it was just because they were calling on the BS they had to bear with, the kind of stuff we now find out-of-place and cringe happening in a work enviroment.

ShadowShifterMarlith eredeti hozzászólása:

Extremely Lazy, Toxic Online, A Problem in Public, Doesn't Work Well With Others,
Is Destructive All Around Them, Hates Culture, Is On Social Networks & TikTok way too much,
Has Social Issues, Can't Get Along With Others, Invades Everyone Elses Problems,
Thinks They Always Have A Solution To Problems That Aren't Their Own,
Don't Work Well On The Jobs, & Most Importantly Can't Even Afford Schooling.
They report people anytime they Disagree with them & hates neutral oppinions.

“Children; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. They no longer rise when elders enter the room, they contradict their parents and tyrannize their teachers. Children are now tyrants.”
Socrates. 470BC.

[Chalupacabaras]

GenZ does not innovate, they only appropriate from others.

Take illustrative styles, for example. Their "OC's" are so indistinguishable from each other that they're copyright-claiming each others' works on Deviant, Pinterest, Patreon, etc. like some all-out free for all tea-spilling contest. They have no idea how copyright laws work, but they have no problem telling professional artists to "shut up and do your homework, boomer".

Then there's the lack of basic life skills. GenZ has very little interest in learning to cook. They don't see the need when they can just order it through an app. They don't think about the health issues caused by their choices of processed food, both physically and psychologically. They don't question why they "need" to vape or e-juice, but they have no problem telling you to your face that your allergies to the toxic chemicals is "fake science, boomer".

Employment wise, okay, I'll give them a bit of slack because they're still not old enough to understand how the game works. Been there, did plenty of stupid things when I was their age. But GenZ isn't better than GenX when it comes to "being difficult". We were difficult by intelligence and ambition, GenZ is only difficult because nobody's ever told them "no, you can't fire your manager for terminating your employment because you openly made threatening or sexually inappropriate comments during inbound customer calls."

Also, GenX didn't end up solely relying on working in the adult entertainment industry before they were old enough to buy a drink at said establishments. GenZ's becoming a major demographic, as they didn't see the importance of learning from history before thinking it was a good idea to repeat it.

GenX can function normally without noise-cancellation earbuds. GenZ is so overwhelmed by external stimuli that "agoraphobia" is an understatement. You can hold a conversation with GenX'ers easily, not so much with GenZ's lack of attention span.

GenZ has a very, very long way to go before they can claim superiority. They'll need to make some incredibly difficult decisions just to get started, the first being that they have to accept being held to the same rules and standards they forced on everyone else.

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

You were raised for a future that no longer exists.

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

Sir Seanicus, Esq. eredeti hozzászólása:

You were raised for a future that no longer exists.

Indeed.

People forget or don't even know that at one point, not too long ago, it was NORMAL for MILLIONS of Americans to support a family, a house, 2 cars, save for retirement, and have vacations on a single person's low to mid-level job income WITHOUT a college education.

Just a few years ago, apartment costs were under $700 a month average, and 3 bedroom 2 bathroom houses could be had in decent suburban areas for under $250,000. Now those exact same apartments are averaging over $1200 to $2500, and those $200k houses are all above $1.2MILLION.

Not to forget in just 3 years gas went from less than $1.50 in some areas to a $3.50 average and OVER $5 in the more "blue" states.

The dream of home ownership and supporting a family on single income is gone, but people are still being raised to believe it is easily obtainable, only to be smacked down by reality that they will never be able afford to own a home or have a family in the "Build Back Better" economy.

Many college degrees are also absolutely worthless, but no one is told this going into college because a semester in many state run colleges is well over $5000 a semester, and the same people , mainly boomers and older Xers keep saying "College is worth it no matter what" because when they went to college it was under $1000 A YEAR!

So a lot of people are stuck in limbo with nothing realistic to hope or strive for because education and home ownership are so far out of reach right now that they would rather just tik tok and wear pajamas in public, because they have no reason to "pull up their boot straps and work hard" for anything because there really is not any more realistic upwards mobility. Everything in the corporate world has become minimum wage algorithms and Human Resources. There are no more "firm handshakes" and "bootstraps".

[Mathius]

Sir Dookface McFerretballs eredeti hozzászólása:

Indeed.

People forget or don't even know that at one point, not too long ago, it was NORMAL for MILLIONS of Americans to support a family, a house, 2 cars, save for retirement, and have vacations on a single person's low to mid-level job income WITHOUT a college education.

Just a few years ago, apartment costs were under $700 a month average, and 3 bedroom 2 bathroom houses could be had in decent suburban areas for under $250,000. Now those exact same apartments are averaging over $1200 to $2500, and those $200k houses are all above $1.2MILLION.

Not to forget in just 3 years gas went from less than $1.50 in some areas to a $3.50 average and OVER $5 in the more "blue" states.

The dream of home ownership and supporting a family on single income is gone, but people are still being raised to believe it is easily obtainable, only to be smacked down by reality that they will never be able afford to own a home or have a family in the "Build Back Better" economy.

Many college degrees are also absolutely worthless, but no one is told this going into college because a semester in many state run colleges is well over $5000 a semester, and the same people , mainly boomers and older Xers keep saying "College is worth it no matter what" because when they went to college it was under $1000 A YEAR!

So a lot of people are stuck in limbo with nothing realistic to hope or strive for because education and home ownership are so far out of reach right now that they would rather just tik tok and wear pajamas in public, because they have no reason to "pull up their boot straps and work hard" for anything because there really is not any more realistic upwards mobility. Everything in the corporate world has become minimum wage algorithms and Human Resources. There are no more "firm handshakes" and "bootstraps".

It was normal before that (actually, only 30-40 years ago) for only one adult to work, only one car per household, and siblings shared a room.

The entitlement is real. So many people have no idea how good they have it on a regular basis, and the ones that do seem to conveniently have forgotten.

If you decide you don't need these things in your life. Guess what? Your bills go down... the people selling them make less, so the prices go down...

But that's not what the holy church-of-Instagram teaches us.

[Devsman]

Tito Shivan eredeti hozzászólása:

ShadowShifterMarlith eredeti hozzászólása:

Extremely Lazy, Toxic Online, A Problem in Public, Doesn't Work Well With Others,
Is Destructive All Around Them, Hates Culture, Is On Social Networks & TikTok way too much,
Has Social Issues, Can't Get Along With Others, Invades Everyone Elses Problems,
Thinks They Always Have A Solution To Problems That Aren't Their Own,
Don't Work Well On The Jobs, & Most Importantly Can't Even Afford Schooling.
They report people anytime they Disagree with them & hates neutral oppinions.

“Children; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. They no longer rise when elders enter the room, they contradict their parents and tyrannize their teachers. Children are now tyrants.”
Socrates. 470BC.

Meaning what?

[Under there]

i don't blame them, the future is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bleak unless you were grandfathered in and unless you're rich, parents are often a net drain
im glad they're able to see the scam for what it is.

[Plaid]

Devsman eredeti hozzászólása:

Tito Shivan eredeti hozzászólása:

“Children; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. They no longer rise when elders enter the room, they contradict their parents and tyrannize their teachers. Children are now tyrants.”
Socrates. 470BC.

Meaning what?

I think the point is people have been saying this ♥♥♥♥ for centuries. I remember my grandparents being absolutely disgusted with my generation. Or, at least my grandfathers, lol.

[Fajita Jim]

Plaid eredeti hozzászólása:

Devsman eredeti hozzászólása:

Meaning what?

I think the point is people have been saying this ♥♥♥♥ for centuries. I remember my grandparents being absolutely disgusted with my generation. Or, at least my grandfathers, lol.

But that quote is actually from like the 1950's. No one can attribute it to Socrates.

https://www.bartleby.com/lit-hub/respectfully-quoted/socrates-469399-b-c/

This use prompted Malcolm S. Forbes to write an editorial on youth.—Forbes, April 15, 1966, p. 11. In that same issue, under the heading “Side Lines,” pp. 5–6, is a summary of the efforts of researchers and scholars to confirm the wording of Socrates, or Plato, but without success. Evidently, the quotation is spurious.

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

It is really sad that a lot of people's futures depend on their parents dying so they can finally have a house and some sort of retirement or equity without working into the grave.

I remember reading recently that over 45% of people believe they will NEVER be able to retire from working because of the way the economy is going currently.

And I'm not saying this about the lazy or druggie people, I'm saying this about all the people that were led to believe hard work and saving up and going to college and all those things they were told as kids would make them successful and make middle class or better lives for people.

There will be a massive wealth inheritance and population transfer as people immediately sell off their boomer parent's currently over-valued suburban and city homes for high prices and move to more affordable areas...

That is assuming their parents aren't idiots that fall for the whole "reverse mortgage" scam.

[Plaid]

Fajita Jim eredeti hozzászólása:

Plaid eredeti hozzászólása:

I think the point is people have been saying this ♥♥♥♥ for centuries. I remember my grandparents being absolutely disgusted with my generation. Or, at least my grandfathers, lol.

But that quote is actually from like the 1950's. No one can attribute it to Socrates.

https://www.bartleby.com/lit-hub/respectfully-quoted/socrates-469399-b-c/

This use prompted Malcolm S. Forbes to write an editorial on youth.—Forbes, April 15, 1966, p. 11. In that same issue, under the heading “Side Lines,” pp. 5–6, is a summary of the efforts of researchers and scholars to confirm the wording of Socrates, or Plato, but without success. Evidently, the quotation is spurious.

lol. You could both be lying and I wouldn't know.

Oh, well, I'm sure it's been going on for a long time. Except maybe that time we had rampant child labor.

[Fajita Jim]

Chalupabaras eredeti hozzászólása:

GenZ would've made him buttchug the hemlock, strictly for having a difference of opinion.

Haha, ♥♥♥♥.

Though I'm still in the Diogenes fan club. Sleep in a jar, bark at people, tell Alexander the Great to move out of your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ light.

[swillfly]

Hey Fajita!

There are actually quite a few studies and articles about the difficulty in staffing iGen kids.

But why read some articles when you can get direct empirical knowledge right from managers?

I have chatted with many fast food, retail, and restaurant managers about staffing and the consensus about younger folks they employ is they:

1. have great expectations about what employers owe them
   
2. are not very flexible for scheduling
   
3. are unwilling to hustle/work as much as other employees
   
4. frequently are no-call/no-shows
   
5. have difficulty working in team environments
   
6. have an overwhelming number of maladies that prohibit them from working

In this republic large companies (such as Mickey D's) are willing to acquiesce to whatever demands iGen make - and they pay them paychecks for doing essentially nothing.

It is unfair to judge all individuals by the majority as there are always exceptions to the rule . . . but make no mistake -- the exceptions are very few and far between in this nation.

I bet that if some fried chicken fast food joint also had an in-house dispensary and ample rooms with couches/bean bags that they would put KFC, Popeye's, Chick-Fil-A, etc. right out of business.

This is the best our country has to offer.