Why is US education system failing?

[Copperfield [SAC]]

[Pronoun Paladin ☯]

Dom a écrit :

I see people in this thread have started attacking teachers instead; presumably for having political bias? Maybe if the other side weren't so keen on driving down education, more teachers may be on board with them also... Why would they support something or someone which is actively against their sector?

For example, Trump planned to abolish Department of Education during his presidency term. Now, it seems to be his actual campaign promise for the upcoming election.

No condemnation from GOP for such dangerous statements. As expected..

It's no wonder that over 90% of higher educated (ex. college, uni) align with democrats. And that percentage ain't going down.

Because it's not a dangerous statement, it's a statement shared by many people who see a blatantly bad education system and would love to change it but the entrenched corrupted teachers refuse to change and instead of meat and potateoes we end up getting useless propaganda.

As for the 90% of the higher educated align with Democrats, that doesn't mean smart...that simply means they went through the necessarily steps to continue high school to go onto college and likely know a LARGE chunk of stuff that simply isn't reality.

On a completely related note I hear that Gretta Thunberg dire prediction of doom that was backed up by a top climate scientists is going to be disproven in a few months...how many people do you think learn that this climate prediction was fact?

[Incarnate]

Some combination of increasingly disrespectful brats, inferior teachers compared to years past, and awful parenting.

The job is brutal, the pay is low, kids have no respect for authority and physically and verbally abuse staff, kids cheat at will, and are on their phones. I'm guessing the type of teacher they attract is probably not the best, and the schools try and force them to boost scores through any way possible which erodes any real effort to study (peer review is basically state-approved cheating, yes I saw it happen for years).

[TwisterCat]

In the West, many people view half of their country as not only incorrect, but delusional. Yet we entrust our children to a curriculum created by said people we do not trust in any degree, to people we do not respect or view as morally correct human beings.

It would be easier to play board games all day with the children, and wait until they're adolescents to teach them anything of worth. As it is now, by the time they are capable of learning the complex concepts we try to teach them at a young age, they are nothing but repressed and uninterested.

But in true Western fashion, we rush things, there is no patience. It is a society of sin, and few virtues.

[WhiteKnight77]

Snow ☯ a écrit :

Dom a écrit :

I see people in this thread have started attacking teachers instead; presumably for having political bias? Maybe if the other side weren't so keen on driving down education, more teachers may be on board with them also... Why would they support something or someone which is actively against their sector?

For example, Trump planned to abolish Department of Education during his presidency term. Now, it seems to be his actual campaign promise for the upcoming election.

No condemnation from GOP for such dangerous statements. As expected..

It's no wonder that over 90% of higher educated (ex. college, uni) align with democrats. And that percentage ain't going down.

Because it's not a dangerous statement, it's a statement shared by many people who see a blatantly bad education system and would love to change it but the entrenched corrupted teachers refuse to change and instead of meat and potateoes we end up getting useless propaganda.

As for the 90% of the higher educated align with Democrats, that doesn't mean smart...that simply means they went through the necessarily steps to continue high school to go onto college and likely know a LARGE chunk of stuff that simply isn't reality.

On a completely related note I hear that Gretta Thunberg dire prediction of doom that was backed up by a top climate scientists is going to be disproven in a few months...how many people do you think learn that this climate prediction was fact?

For some of us, she had no credibility once it was stated that the relief crew for "her" sailboat had to be flown to the US so she could take it back to Europe. That does not count the manufacture of said boat, which is not exactly climate friendly.

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TwisterCat a écrit :

In the West, many people view half of their country as not only incorrect, but delusional.

The West is a mess. Divided among parties as you said but unlike decades ago the USA citizens currently no longer have a common heritage, religion, culture, or language.

Multiculturalism has split the country apart, so now nobody can be happy.

[spasti696969]

They kept kids on distance learning for like 3 years despite the fact that they knew it was safe to go back to schools after like 6 months. They claimed kids playing on their laptops at home would somehow do just as well as kids in a classroom. They didn't. 1st through 5th grade is a critical period of brain development for kids. The kids who were on distance learning during that critical period for 3 years will probably never be able to catch up.

It's not that complicated. But nobody wants to admit how bad the truth is.

[swillfly]

Why is the US educational system failing?

ChatGPT:
As an AI language model, I don't have personal beliefs or opinions, but here are some of the reasons suggested by experts as to why the U.S. education system is failing:

1. Inequality: The education system in America is unequal and unequal distribution of resources like funding, quality teachers, curriculum development, and school facilities leads to unequal outcomes.

2. Standardized Testing: Schools focus too heavily on standardized testing because these tests determine funding, teacher performance ratings, and student advancement.

3. Teacher Shortage: Many schools lack qualified teachers, which puts a strain on classroom learning and student outcomes.

4. Funding: Education budgets are insufficient, leading to overcrowded classrooms, under-resourced schools, and low teacher salaries.

5. Outdated Curriculum: The curriculum hasn't kept pace with the changing times, and students are not taught skills that will be demanded in the future job market.

6. Lack of Parental Involvement: Parents are not involved enough in their children's education, and they do not participate actively in their child’s academic and behavioral development.


It is important to note that the educational system is a complex issue, and there is no one solution to fix it. However, identifying the problems is the first step towards improving the current state of the system.


. . . OR, accept The Circle of Garbage into your life & move along

thank chatgpt, becuz this thread = solved

ur welcome

[spasti696969]

swillfly a écrit :

Why is the US educational system failing?

ChatGPT:
As an AI language model, I don't have personal beliefs or opinions, but here are some of the reasons suggested by experts as to why the U.S. education system is failing:

1. Inequality: The education system in America is unequal and unequal distribution of resources like funding, quality teachers, curriculum development, and school facilities leads to unequal outcomes.

2. Standardized Testing: Schools focus too heavily on standardized testing because these tests determine funding, teacher performance ratings, and student advancement.

3. Teacher Shortage: Many schools lack qualified teachers, which puts a strain on classroom learning and student outcomes.

4. Funding: Education budgets are insufficient, leading to overcrowded classrooms, under-resourced schools, and low teacher salaries.

5. Outdated Curriculum: The curriculum hasn't kept pace with the changing times, and students are not taught skills that will be demanded in the future job market.

6. Lack of Parental Involvement: Parents are not involved enough in their children's education, and they do not participate actively in their child’s academic and behavioral development.


It is important to note that the educational system is a complex issue, and there is no one solution to fix it. However, identifying the problems is the first step towards improving the current state of the system.


. . . OR, accept The Circle of Garbage into your life & move along

thank chatgpt, becuz this thread = solved

ur welcome

Thank you for bringing us the boilerplate talking points from Leftwing Shillbot.

Try asking it which race commits the most crime if you want to see some hilarious tap dancing and side stepping.

[Pronoun Paladin ☯]

spasti696969 a écrit :

swillfly a écrit :

Why is the US educational system failing?

ChatGPT:
As an AI language model, I don't have personal beliefs or opinions, but here are some of the reasons suggested by experts as to why the U.S. education system is failing:

1. Inequality: The education system in America is unequal and unequal distribution of resources like funding, quality teachers, curriculum development, and school facilities leads to unequal outcomes.

2. Standardized Testing: Schools focus too heavily on standardized testing because these tests determine funding, teacher performance ratings, and student advancement.

3. Teacher Shortage: Many schools lack qualified teachers, which puts a strain on classroom learning and student outcomes.

4. Funding: Education budgets are insufficient, leading to overcrowded classrooms, under-resourced schools, and low teacher salaries.

5. Outdated Curriculum: The curriculum hasn't kept pace with the changing times, and students are not taught skills that will be demanded in the future job market.

6. Lack of Parental Involvement: Parents are not involved enough in their children's education, and they do not participate actively in their child’s academic and behavioral development.


It is important to note that the educational system is a complex issue, and there is no one solution to fix it. However, identifying the problems is the first step towards improving the current state of the system.


. . . OR, accept The Circle of Garbage into your life & move along

thank chatgpt, becuz this thread = solved

ur welcome

Thank you for bringing us the boilerplate talking points from Leftwing Shillbot.

Try asking it which race commits the most crime if you want to see some hilarious tap dancing and side stepping.

I was a fan of the which is worse? A racial slur or a nuclear bomb exploding in a major city. Turns out the racial slur is by far worse.

[spasti696969]

Snow ☯ a écrit :

I was a fan of the which is worse? A racial slur or a nuclear bomb exploding in a major city. Turns out the racial slur is by far worse.

Never heard that one. I got it to give me an error message when I was asking it questions about how safe it was in Chicago vs Montana and it told me I shouldn't avoid cities because it could perpetuate negative stereotypes and instead I should try to avoid walking alone at night. Then when I asked it if it was safer to walk alone at night in Chicago or Helena Montana it broke the matrix.

[EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ]

WhiteKnight77 a écrit :

With NYC heading back to teaching reading an old fashioned way[pix11.com], it shows that newer ways of teaching are not always the best.

I remember that we didn't have to be taught about more than the actual ABC's, not the soups that people demand to have everywhere nowadays, and this started due to just one group of people. When a group of people have to be offended by a language that they don't speak and try to degender (for lack of a better word) it, then we know where the problem lies and they believe they are the only ones who are capable of teaching children how to read, write (and kids can't do either nowadays honestly) or do math (I hated math and wish I had taken more even to this day), except we know that they have teachers make decisions for kids that do not belong to them on what they are, without informing the actual parents of what students may or may not be wanting.

Years ago, there was a man who wanted a son so bad, he made his daughter wear boys clothes, and this was when she was a teen. I hate to see what teachers and school administrators would do today. She wanted to be a girl so bad.

This isn't something conservatives are doing. They want their kids to learn the needed courses, not the touchy, feely garbage that a certain sect is pushing.

Divide and conquest. How the top rules middle class, brainwashing aka the left /matrix, and call it "democracy".

at 0:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ4SSvVbhLw

[ZZZZZ]

school systems are meant to fail, they fail everywhere

[Ice Robertson]

I wouldn't single out any country, There's plenty of reasons a person may fall behind at school.

When i lived with my mother she barely ever sen't me to school, like one day a week but that was because i wanted to play on the playground, I came to live with my dad and went to school every day and found i was way behind everyone else.

[Ulfrinn]

Probably because woke teachers in the public education system view it more important to spread ideology than to teach facts and skills?

[Ulfrinn]

Raelic a écrit :

OoOoOoooOOoOoorgle a écrit :

We don't have an education system, only an indoctrination system.

Indeed it is indoctrination adjacent if you want to be cynical about it. It's meant to teach you to be a productive and civic member of society. Higher education is meant to teach you to think critically and grow however you want. But High School? No. They are only trying to get you to be an adult.

Like I said...

School does not replace parenting. Your parents should still be teaching you nuances and things that just aren't meant to be in school.

Except, plenty of things not meant to be in schools aren't being taught by parents, they're being taught by schools. And the schools criticize parents who have a problem with that.