For those who claim that the metric system is better than the imperial one
You say that metric units are easier to operate. However, aren't you bothered to remember how many seconds in one minute and how many days in one year? You say that is simple, but your favorite "metric" time isn't actually better than the units you hate. Can you recall how many weeks in one year? Or how many hours in January? Actually, months are a real pain since every month has its own length. Oh, and look at this dumb leap year. But no one complains. Why? The answer is simple, everyone got used to this mess. The same goes to imperial units. You would rather use "five tomatoes" for your needs than learn this metric Esperanto.
Still want the US to adopt the French invention? Ok, here we go. A kilofoot, a milligallon, a deciacre. Are you satisfied?
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funewchie původně napsal:
but roughly 2-3 car-length between you and the guy in front, depending on road conditions and your tires and brakes.

And depending on speed.

:qr:
Bigger number on the meter to make driving fun. The reason why it goes that higher is because they wanted the pin to be at the center of the driver's view.
zeke 11. bře. 2023 v 10.05 
[Quick technical note: the US system of measurements is actually US Customary Units (USC); it is based off of the old British English Units (Imperial Units actually didn't come about until after the US Revolution took place). This is actually important due to USC and Imperial having a few different definitions for various measurements]
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Jokes on you OP, the US is arguably already primarily metric. It is almost impossible to avoid using it.

The pound has been defined by the metric kilogram since about 1875. All current USC measurements are defined by their SI equivalent.

Federal business and contracts are primarily conducted in SI units. The military also primarily uses SI units. On a related note, ammo in the US is also defined in SI.

Consumer goods are required to be labeled with SI units (in addition to the USC units - liters are even commonly used with some goods such as the 1L bottle or 2L bottle and when it comes to wine and spirits). The nutrition labels on food products use grams and milligrams.

Science, medicine, and electronics in the US either primarily or exclusively use SI units (depending on what your looking at). Related note: the illegal drug trade in the US is conducted in SI units.

If you're going to have a set of tools, you're pretty much assured of needing a set of metric tools (in addition to your USC tools).

Short distance races are run in meters and kilometers.

Manufacturing industries in the US (even those who only operate domestically) are mostly defined by SI standards (including machinery, technical process details, and product specifications) rather than by USC.
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You want to know why all this SI use has crept into the US? It is because in the realm of science and technology (and all those fields touch), businesses that switch to SI standards have been shown to have a competitive advantage (even domestically) against those who still use USC (though it is also worth noting international business dealings also play a role, to some extent, in the ever increasing prevalence of SI use in the US).

The reality is that the US probably uses SI more than it uses USC at this point. The USA's use of USC is mostly just 'on-the-surface' at this point.
Why not just use both for different purposes?
because

1mL of water = 1cc of volume = 1g weight = 1 calorie of energy required to raise it 1% of the temperature between freezing and boiling points.

if you try to do this with the freedom units, you enter a nightmare world. I hope you like nightmare worlds.

i dont hate the freedom units. but they are quite outdated.
Honestly I would rather use metric, because 10cm sounds way more impressive when describing the length...
Hammer Of Evil původně napsal:
because

1mL of water = 1cc of volume = 1g weight = 1 calorie of energy required to raise it 1% of the temperature between freezing and boiling points.

if you try to do this with the freedom units, you enter a nightmare world. I hope you like nightmare worlds.

i dont hate the freedom units. but they are quite outdated.

Question: Why would I need to know that kind of information? What world are you living in that you need to know what 1 calorie of energy is needed to raise temperature, outside of a laboratory?

A pint, a quart, a gallon.
Not exactly difficult to understand.

Even weight is trimmed to just ounces (for tiny measuring) and pounds (regular). No "decigrams" or "hectagrams" or anything. Just ounces and pounds.
(Both systems use "tons", so it felt unneeded to mention)

And cubic centimeter seems redundant to mention, as we have cubic inches.
Same principle - an inch, but multiplied to the third power.
Naposledy upravil funewchie; 11. bře. 2023 v 21.26
János Újváry původně napsal:
You say that metric units are easier to operate. However, aren't you bothered to remember how many seconds in one minute and how many days in one year? You say that is simple, but your favorite "metric" time isn't actually better than the units you hate. Can you recall how many weeks in one year? Or how many hours in January? Actually, months are a real pain since every month has its own length. Oh, and look at this dumb leap year. But no one complains. Why? The answer is simple, everyone got used to this mess. The same goes to imperial units. You would rather use "five tomatoes" for your needs than learn this metric Esperanto.
Still want the US to adopt the French invention? Ok, here we go. A kilofoot, a milligallon, a deciacre. Are you satisfied?

xD
Your comment and opinion are exactly the same as that of a youtube channel called titans of cnc machining.

He contradicts himself a few times though. For example, he claims metric is older, then says the modern imperial system was based on one used by ancient romes.
... redrawing a painting doesn't make the background (the system) newer.


The problem is that the average foot size where I live is around EU size 45. A number of males have 48, woman usually have 42 or 44

Elsewhere, feet are a lot smaller.
so, using Feet as the US uses it is super confusing for us.

Cup sizes differ as well. (generally cups are larger)
Teaspoon sizes are different over here, compared to that of the UK. (we use larger spoons)
tablespoon sizes are however the same (I am guessing)

It basically doesn't make sense.
We know how long a meter is. (its about a single long pace forward), it just makes more intuitive sense to us as such.

We measure stuff by mass as well, rather than volume. (grams aren't volume).
cSg|mc-Hotsauce původně napsal:
L1qu1dator původně napsal:
For example to know what distance to keep with the car driving in front of you, to have time to brake if anything happens :P

They've dumbed that down to car lengths in driving tests.

Like that is a standard measure of length.

:qr:

Did they stop teaching the 3 second rule? Of course, it wasn't a very good rule, since road and visibility conditions change things dramatically.
Every other country in the world uses metric system, beside three countries included america, yet the pseudo "imperial" american is better.

Ok. If armchair experts of net say so the rest of the world will adapt it. Not to worry. Because the entire world beside these three has not conducted research and made extensive calculations and has experts specialized in the field, but hey the internet armchairs know better because they watch youtube "specialist " and read of forums. Armchairs know far more better than all the specialist in all the countries in the world beside three countries..


The real reason why america use the imperial system is called cost to conversion and own system
https://www.zmescience.com/other/map-of-countries-officially-not-using-the-metric-system/

They have the dollar as world reserve currency which is how they leverage debt on the cost of others this at minumum cost in economy, without counting million sceintific and field related aspect to stay out.
Naposledy upravil EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ; 11. bře. 2023 v 23.22
I don't get the complains about metric.
You put everything into the same pot, you place that pot on a scale.
and you just add to the number displayed by the scale.
current content: 50g?
need to add 3g of whatever...
just add..., see number increase. 53g
boom, done.

Americans:
"Okay I need 3 cups... so, how full must the cup be? Whatever... one, two... hm... two and a half then, okay"

its fine for kitchen stuff but you're going to get a different cake then every time.
lee_bobbins původně napsal:
I saw a demonstration on youtube by an ultra master craftsman. He demonstrated very eloquently that it is far better to use the "american" system of measurement when constructing buildings etc, because to use the other system, there comes a point in the building process where things do not line up.
How is that?
Metric system is just a way to rip off people even more

customary or imperial >>>>> con artists and hagglers


oh exactly 20.45 grams of british pork dishes for 4.56 Euros of british cigars?!?

Here's 10 lbs of Cheesewheels
Give me 5 lbs of cigarettes
Naposledy upravil Fumo Bnnuy n Frends; 11. bře. 2023 v 23.18
They both work, but metric makes more sense to me. Although at home some people will still use the shakkanhō system for measurements.
Fumo Bnnuy Gaming původně napsal:
Metric system is just a way to rip off people even more

customary or imperial >>>>> con artists and hagglers


oh exactly 20.45 grams of british pork dishes for 4.56 Euros of british cigars?!?

Here's 10 lbs of Cheesewheels
Give me 5 lbs of cigarettes

There is something about armchairs and anecdotes.


By the way Dollar being used as world SDRs to finance its debt and decades of monetary easing and leveraging at others countries expense who do business in dollars, is prime example of "not being" conned, at all. This is why majority are looking at creating their own SDRs from BRICS to the rest because they "not getting" conned by using Dollars as SDR.
Naposledy upravil EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ; 12. bře. 2023 v 0.48
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