All anime and manga going to be illegal soon for the USA?

[Cyber2B]

Was just randomly scrolling until I found this.

I'm assuming the United States will soon ban all anime and manga based on this law passed by US congress? Hopefully I am misinterpreting legalese lol.

Well if I read this correctly the anime industry is going to take a huge financial hit soon


In 2003, Congress passed the PROTECT Act, which stands for the, “Prosecutorial Remedies and Other Tools to end the Exploitation of Children Today” Act. Under the Protect Act, it is illegal to create, possess, or distribute, "a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture or painting", that "depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is ‘obscene' or ‘depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in...sexual intercourse...and lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.” (18 U.S. Code § 1466A). To clarify, under federal law, drawing and animation are considered child pornography, and you can be convicted for possession or marketing of such material.

I didn't know the animated characters were minors!

It is illegal to own or distribute a depiction in which, “an identifiable minor is engaging in a sexually explicit conduct” (18 U.S.C. Section 2256(8)(C)). The word “identifiable” implies that you must be aware that the character represented was a minor.

This means that the onus is on the prosecution to prove your awareness. It is thus possible for your lawyer to formulate a defense that you were unaware that the character represented a person under 18 years of age.

Source: https://www.bayarea-attorney.com/can-you-be-charged-with-child-pornography-for-looking-at-animation#%3A~%3Atext%3DTo%20clarify%2C%20under%20federal%20law%2Cor%20marketing%20of%20such%20material

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So this is what aged milk looks like in article form. Fascinating.
Didn't know this was going on when I was 5 years old.

[Chill-Out-Zone]

LOL!
US got more anime og Manga on Netflix than EU.

[Fake]

"It's called Hentai. And it's art." - Stanley

[Captain Morgan]

Highly doubtful. As of late, a somewhat large portion of the anime/manga/VN media, started serving woke agenda and conforming into the disgusting western standards for pushing that cr ap on the audience. I don't see those medias becoming banned, especially not in the USA. And never forget, USA =/= world (usa doesn't equal to world). Whatever happens there, stays there and even the people staying there usually have a problem with this (the things that happen there and stay there). Thankfully, anime doesn't cherrypick themes and never chooses a "side", so anything goes, everything is being expressed, nobody finds it lacking or themselves wanting, it has something for everybody.

You who hate it, simply F-off and watch something else. Stop struggling to pull the plug for everybody. The world doesn't revolve around yourselves and your personal preferences. Be misers at your own expense, stop constantly partycrushing on other people enjoying art.

[junior_duck]

imagine when you see boobs and hot stuff

[davidb11]

Originally posted by Captain Morgan:

Highly doubtful. As of late, a somewhat large portion of the anime/manga/VN media, started serving woke agenda and conforming into the disgusting western standards for pushing that cr ap on the audience. I don't see those medias becoming banned, especially not in the USA. And never forget, USA =/= world (usa doesn't equal to world). Whatever happens there, stays there and even the people staying there usually have a problem with this (the things that happen there and stay there). Thankfully, anime doesn't cherrypick themes and never chooses a "side", so anything goes, everything is being expressed, nobody finds it lacking or themselves wanting, it has something for everybody.

You who hate it, simply F-off and watch something else. Stop struggling to pull the plug for everybody. The world doesn't revolve around yourselves and your personal preferences. Be misers at your own expense, stop constantly partycrushing on other people enjoying art.

PLease don't make up silly impossible things.
First, this was a law back in 2003, which means it's 20 years old.
Second, Anime cannot be woke.
Let alone Manga.

Third, you have misunderstood this thread.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by davidb11:

Originally posted by Captain Morgan:

Highly doubtful. As of late, a somewhat large portion of the anime/manga/VN media, started serving woke agenda and conforming into the disgusting western standards for pushing that cr ap on the audience. I don't see those medias becoming banned, especially not in the USA. And never forget, USA =/= world (usa doesn't equal to world). Whatever happens there, stays there and even the people staying there usually have a problem with this (the things that happen there and stay there). Thankfully, anime doesn't cherrypick themes and never chooses a "side", so anything goes, everything is being expressed, nobody finds it lacking or themselves wanting, it has something for everybody.

You who hate it, simply F-off and watch something else. Stop struggling to pull the plug for everybody. The world doesn't revolve around yourselves and your personal preferences. Be misers at your own expense, stop constantly partycrushing on other people enjoying art.

PLease don't make up silly impossible things.
First, this was a law back in 2003, which means it's 20 years old.
Second, Anime cannot be woke.
Let alone Manga.

Third, you have misunderstood this thread.

With anime and manga it depends solely on the translators/localization team.

There have been instances of translators/localization teams inserting either their personal politics into their work or completely changing the meaning of things with a political spin that was not there before.

[davidb11]

THat's weird. But alright.
After 4Kids, I can't imagine that happening, because it would be pure suicide.

[kilésengati]

Is OP The Anime Man? That bloke has a history with misinterpreting laws and defending pedo content.

Read the laws from the primary source and within the context of their legal framework, which are linked in the article. Think about them and read again.

Just like the laws in Australia, this isn't a blanket ban on anime or manga, but only on material that fulfils the criteria of the law, which like many laws intentionally leave varying room for interpretation that is up to the courts. But I wouldn't take any chances on that.
Apparently, in Australia, this responsibility is for the most part left up to some classification board.

I think the PROTECT Act leaves too much legal uncertainty to be useful and unfortunately leads to some states interpreting the law in the most relaxed way - of course Commiefornia is a shining example for that again.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by davidb11:

THat's weird. But alright.
After 4Kids, I can't imagine that happening, because it would be pure suicide.

4Kids died because they bought too many IPs and ran out of money.

The current issue is because of places like Crunchy Roll who essentially have a monopoly on streaming anime in the West. This allows them to do whatever they want in terms of translation, localization, and sometimes even prohibiting certain anime from being available.

They actually did this with one anime that they bought the rights for not understanding what it was about, released a few episodes and now refuse to release more or give the rights to any other service. Essentially banning the anime in the west.

[davidb11]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Originally posted by davidb11:

THat's weird. But alright.
After 4Kids, I can't imagine that happening, because it would be pure suicide.

4Kids died because they bought too many IPs and ran out of money.

The current issue is because of places like Crunchy Roll who essentially have a monopoly on streaming anime in the West. This allows them to do whatever they want in terms of translation, localization, and sometimes even prohibiting certain anime from being available.

They actually did this with one anime that they bought the rights for not understanding what it was about, released a few episodes and now refuse to release more or give the rights to any other service. Essentially banning the anime in the west.

Wow. THat's weird. I didn't know about that.
Surprised they had that much power.
They should be broken apart for certain now.

[davidb11]

Originally posted by kilésengati:

Is OP The Anime Man? That bloke has a history with misinterpreting laws and defending pedo content.

Read the laws from the primary source and within the context of their legal framework, which are linked in the article. Think about them and read again.

Just like the laws in Australia, this isn't a blanket ban on anime or manga, but only on material that fulfils the criteria of the law, which like many laws intentionally leave varying room for interpretation that is up to the courts. But I wouldn't take any chances on that.
Apparently, in Australia, this responsibility is for the most part left up to some classification board.

I think the PROTECT Act leaves too much legal uncertainty to be useful and unfortunately leads to some states interpreting the law in the most relaxed way - of course Commiefornia is a shining example for that again.

You are aware this is all from 20 years ago, right?
THe OP is way late to the party.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by kilésengati:

Is OP The Anime Man? That bloke has a history with misinterpreting laws and defending pedo content.

Read the laws from the primary source and within the context of their legal framework, which are linked in the article. Think about them and read again.

Just like the laws in Australia, this isn't a blanket ban on anime or manga, but only on material that fulfils the criteria of the law, which like many laws intentionally leave varying room for interpretation that is up to the courts. But I wouldn't take any chances on that.
Apparently, in Australia, this responsibility is for the most part left up to some classification board.

I think the PROTECT Act leaves too much legal uncertainty to be useful and unfortunately leads to some states interpreting the law in the most relaxed way - of course Commiefornia is a shining example for that again.

There has only been one really recorded conviction under the PROTECT act and that was only due to a plea deal as to no send it up to SCOTUS. Other than that, it really isn't enforced because of how other laws work as well.

In short, is a convoluted mess of a law that a lot of people don't want to deal with unless it involves real children.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by davidb11:

Originally posted by SlowMango:

4Kids died because they bought too many IPs and ran out of money.

The current issue is because of places like Crunchy Roll who essentially have a monopoly on streaming anime in the West. This allows them to do whatever they want in terms of translation, localization, and sometimes even prohibiting certain anime from being available.

They actually did this with one anime that they bought the rights for not understanding what it was about, released a few episodes and now refuse to release more or give the rights to any other service. Essentially banning the anime in the west.

Wow. THat's weird. I didn't know about that.
Surprised they had that much power.
They should be broken apart for certain now.

A great irony of all of that is Crunchy Roll used to be a paid piracy streaming site that was the only way to reliably get anime that was not released in the west. They now have actors and posts about not pirating anime to support the industry.

Which would have merit if not for their origin or the fact that they barely contribute 5% to the industry with how they buy licensing. They also hire translators for less than the standard rate continuing a cycle of essentially slave labor while talking about how much they do for the industry.

In short, Crunchy Roll is ♥♥♥♥ and you support anime more by buying physical merch or releases directly from the production companies.

[davidb11]

Ah. I see now.
THanks for explaining.
Now I must go beat them with sticks. :P