AI made artists worthless

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agu 4/dez./2022 às 7:25

Now that AI has evolved to a point where you can type whatever you want in a small text box and get decent results, can you imagine what it'd be like in 5 or 10 years from now? Everyone is already trying out the multiple generators we have available to the public and having a lot of fun with them, getting real results and sharing them at no cost even though they're usually rough results for now, in the future there would be no need for any new artists at all, from illustrators to musicians to painters to writers, they would all be replaced and everything could be handled better and exactly to your tastes by the AI, with minimal effort on your part and the model evolving and getting better every single time, even movies are being produced and tweaked with the power of machine learning, imagine how far it can go when it learns to properly write its own fictional universe and characters, it's bound to be the best fantasy series because it would have no human error problems like forgetting parts of lore or purposely retconning, this is a win for everyone so people could focus on more important subjects like STEM and medicine instead.
Like it happened when TV was introduced there were people saying there's always gonna be a spot for radio but they were just delaying the inevitable truth of technology going forward, with or without them, the same thing will happen to old-style artists and people who think art made by a real person is somehow better than something made by AI artists (which is ridiculous) are just refusing to see the world around them change. Because we're in the early stages of the replacement there are people who will say AI-produced art has no real merit by using arguments such as it having no "heart" and "passion" but Artificial Intelligence will get better and better at every occasion it's almost unfair to compare it to raw human "talent" (which is subjective in a topic like art). They have no chance.
I think we've passed a point where we can safely say AI killed the artist, and I'm glad to see where this goes.
Will you keep supporting a dying industry like art or will you move forward with AI?

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Hammer Of Evil 4/dez./2022 às 22:44

AI text to image generation is next level. try using 'oiled up <noun>' to recieve a truly nightmarish work of art.

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crunchyfrog 4/dez./2022 às 23:07

Escrito originalmente por Angel:
I'll let you know in a year or two if I lose my job.

From a graphic artist/designer :hp_kyu:

Now THIS is a valid point right here.

Being a graphic desinger. How about a signwriter or maker as an example?

back in the dark ages my dad was a signwriter in his spare time. Professionally of course. The way then was oil paints, brushes and the like.

Then technology , and materials gradually changed. Printing, plastics, vinyls and so on.

And yet there are still old fashioned oil paint signwriters that exist. Granted they may be lesser but they exist. And other sign makers that exist merely use the tech available.

#122

Hunter_M♤cer 4/dez./2022 às 23:14

Escrito originalmente por agu:
Escrito originalmente por 🌸Wraith:
*Checking some profiles in a group named "Artwork Profiles"*
Nope, doesn't look like it. 🌸
What did you mean by this?

This group has a lot of nice profiles with nice artworks

#123

Hunter_M♤cer 4/dez./2022 às 23:15

Stop being a Artist and instead become a Programmer

#124

Tesseract 4/dez./2022 às 23:16

Escrito originalmente por The Festive_M♤cer:
Stop being a Artist and instead become a Programmer

stop being a programmer and become a mathematician

stop being a mathematician and become a command prompt engineer

stop being

stop

#125

crunchyfrog 4/dez./2022 às 23:22

Escrito originalmente por Tesseract:
Escrito originalmente por The Festive_M♤cer:
Stop being a Artist and instead become a Programmer
stop being a programmer and become a mathematician

stop being a mathematician and become a command prompt engineer

stop being

stop

I stopped doing computers and went to learn audio engineering.
I stopped audio engineering (kind of) then went to insurance.
I stopped insurance and went to law.
Eventually via a few other things, I stopped doing law in favour of laying down on the sofa and farting occasionally.

#126

White Knight 4/dez./2022 às 23:36

Escrito originalmente por Eréndira:
Nicely said, heh. When I’ve purchased pieces that resonated with me deeply, I can’t say it was the soul of the artist I was getting a hold of, it was a part of my own. We’re all deeply connected if we choose to see it. Felt that earlier actually, its unlike an experience of all others. Anyway I do also like to support the art world personally and that to me has value too. I want more ppl to share their views and feelings and experiences, not less.

Thanks. Truth is, I've spent most of my life running with artists and other creative-types. They were always welcoming (and always more interesting). My family kind of hated art... despite the talent and creativity displayed by my siblings.

Art was for unemployed losers. I was supposed to become an architect... lol Oops.

I think I have always loved and appreciated artists because I never had the courage to be one.

They are kind of flaky losers, to be honest. Then again, aren't we all? I mean, I could have grown up to be Marjory Taylor Green... that would've shown them.

No effing algorithm could ever replace an artist. If there is a god, s/he/whatever loves artists.

#127

shoopy 5/dez./2022 às 0:04

AI still needs to learn from artists. It can't just make stuff by itself.

#128

Q-T_3.14.exe 5/dez./2022 às 0:07

Escrito originalmente por ardiel:
AI still needs to learn from artists. It can't just make stuff by itself.

It can just look it up and copy it.

#129

shoopy 5/dez./2022 às 0:08

Escrito originalmente por Q-T_3.14.exe:
Escrito originalmente por ardiel:
AI still needs to learn from artists. It can't just make stuff by itself.
It can just look it up and copy it.

It has to exist to be copied.

#130

Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 5/dez./2022 às 0:21

yeah im not reading all that ♥♥♥♥

blocks of texts

#131

Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 5/dez./2022 às 0:28

based on title and comments though

I can honestly say some ♥♥♥♥ was proven right:

1. artists have always been a privileged lifestyle. Know who the greats were? I can definitely tell you it wasn't some homeless dude behind the castle but someone in the castle.

2. Most "artists" aren't as good as they think if a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ A.I. COMPUTER PROGRAM CAN DO THEIR JOB FOR THEM

3. If their art is stolen it just means that their "unique" art is just a dime a dozen cal-arts level of mid

4. It just shows that the future requires tons of knowledge about computers and coding. Sad reality but eventually in the future everything EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE BY COMPUTERS!!! Best learn how to work with them or fix em b/c those jobs are not coming back unless we get a Y2K level scenario.

5. A.i. art is either ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or a threat to art and artists. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Pick a lane

6. There is no REAL THREAT to REAL ARTISTS!!! People (usually the rich dumb ones) will buy overpriced and expensive items even if you can get much more and for much less b/c "I like to uhhh...support locallll artistssss and uhhh.....you just don't get ittt!!!!" Hipsters and collectors critics or people who post crap on yelp level of airs.

7. A.I. art like trucking will be a good thing in hindsight. No more toiling weeks doing drawings or hauling cargo. Now with computers it'll be done automatically. Less traffic accidents as well as less artists whining about commissions and deadlines for art pieces as well as getting screwed over for payment.

8. Knock em down a peg. Art won't save the world! Grab a shovel and a pickaxe or welding torch. Dig your hand into some dirt and plant some seeds. Realize that if your position / living / job is replaceable you aren't as important as you think you are!

Última edição por Fumo Bnnuy n Frends; 5/dez./2022 às 0:30

#132

Haruspex 5/dez./2022 às 0:32

Escrito originalmente por ardiel:
AI still needs to learn from artists. It can't just make stuff by itself.

Correct, which is the one thing that makes me hopeful for the future. Even the best AIs are purely reactive. They respond only to input, and they can't act on their own accord. If humans were like that they would be dead until someone asked them a question when they would spring to life, answer the question, then fall dead again.

Unless there's another big AI breakthrough that allows AI to continuously think and perceive without any input, they will remain a tool under the control of humanity. I still think AI will be massively disruptive going forward and not everyone will come out the other side unscathed.

#133

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏 5/dez./2022 às 2:23

Escrito originalmente por Fumo Gaming:
... 5. A.i. art is either ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or a threat to art and artists. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Pick a lane ...

Most things in life don't exist in such sharply black and white terms.

Just like digital art (when it first came around), A.i. Image generation is a tool, not a replacement.
When digital came around, we didn't suddenly all stop using traditional mediums, like a lot of people claimed would happen.

Escrito originalmente por Fumo Gaming:
... 5. A.i. art is either ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or a threat to art and artists. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Pick a lane ...

That's like saying that monkeys or dogs are either BS or a threat to animals and continued propagation of animals.
Clearly monkeys and dogs are capable and can be a competitor for resources in an ecosystem but they don't usher existential threat into all phylums of the animal kingdom ...like, oh, I don't know... that human thing does.
Yet, in this metaphor, the other animals are arguing about the supposed threat posed by monkeys and dogs, while just ignoring humans.

A.i. itself, particularly AGI, is a concern that can replace art, artists... everyone.... and everything... because that is the nature of general level intelligence.
These image generators aren't even actually true artificial intelligence; they couldn't catch a mouse, or fetch a stick, or unpeel a banana,
...even actual a.i. can't consistently find cheese in a maze yet if that cheese sometimes is a different color.