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hypehype 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 1:20
Are we seeing the start of the 2nd video game crash?
With high inflation, war, after effects of covid, lack of innovation and mobile games making more money with less work.

Do you feel we are starting to see the decline of PC/console video game sales/production?

https://www.thegamer.com/may-2022-worst-for-games-sales-pandemic/

Looking at steam summer sales, not many of the games peak my interest.
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Xhoas 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 1:26 
No.
Aachen 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 1:29 
Do you think rough times are currently somehow particularly limited in scope?
( ( < < <🤖> > > ) ) 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 1:35 
i spose if game devs arent eating they die.....

maybe you could research what you dont need to make a game in 2022
hypehype 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 1:37 
引用自 Aachen
Do you think rough times are currently somehow particularly limited in scope?

True, we don't know what the future holds, but I do know i'm not going to spend £70 on a crappy unpolished PS5 game when my utility bills have gone up.

The effects of the Ukraine war which started in 24th Feb is only starting to be seen now 3-4 months later, I wonder how long it will take before it affects non-essential businesses like the gaming industry.

The gaming industry only has itself to blame, releasing carp games and dirty tactic to extract as much money from consumers as possible.

I guess we will have to wait for q3 and q4 figures.
最后由 hypehype 编辑于; 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 1:39
Crazy Tiger 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 1:44 
No.

引用自 hypehype
Looking at steam summer sales, not many of the games peak my interest.
How is that related to the subject at hand?
my new friend 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 1:47 
引用自 hypehype
thegamer
They are nearly as bad as oneangrygamer. They don't hold any weight on my thoughts.
muckymucks 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 1:48 
PC gaming especially is ready for a crash. There's so many free games or super cheap games we get that something is bound to happen. It started with Humble Bundle when they offered bundled games for almost nothing. Then Amazon Prime started offering free games, then Epic Games started offering free games. There really isn't a reason to EVER buy a game since it'll most likely be offered for free at some time. If I never got another game in my life I'd never run out of games to play with my backlog. Something has got to give.
my new friend 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 1:51 
引用自 muckymucks
Amazon Prime
Thanks for the reminder. I forgot it was a new month. :steamthumbsup:
cinedine 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:29 
With digital distribution and secondary monetisation a crash like back then is literally impossible.

The crash was caused by dwindling trust of customers in new products that needed to be manufactured, shipped and stored in brick and mortar stores. Those stores ran out of space because people didn't buy enough games by the time the next big release were coming, forcing publishers to buy back their copies in order to make room for their newest titles. And all that for a multitude of competing systems.

Now we have just a handful of fairly similar hardware, distribution costs are cheap as hell to non-existent. We have games from over 20 years available next to each other, ranging from youtuber bait, to student project, to ambitious mid-level budget all the way to nine-figure productions. And if a new release doesn't sell as well as expected, it's often made up by the backcatalogue or the direct predecessor still making bank on microtransactions.
Also most companies are big enough to take a few bad years and only need to downsize instead of going under completely. The last high profile publisher closure was THQ in 2013 after years of financial struggle and re-organization.
Tito Shivan 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:38 
引用自 cinedine
With digital distribution and secondary monetisation a crash like back then is literally impossible.
Pretty much.

As much as people love to parrot the 80's gaming crash, it happened for a set of very specific reasons that simply don't apply nowadays.
最后由 Tito Shivan 编辑于; 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:38
Yzal 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:48 
They can't bury unsold digital copies in the desert like they did with E.T.
最后由 Yzal 编辑于; 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:51
Garou 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:52 
I'm not seeing many AAA games that I want so I've been venturing into the indie market a lot.
Start_Running 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 3:25 
引用自 Tito Shivan
引用自 cinedine
With digital distribution and secondary monetisation a crash like back then is literally impossible.
Pretty much.

As much as people love to parrot the 80's gaming crash, it happened for a set of very specific reasons that simply don't apply nowadays.
And keep in mind that crash was a supply side crash. Translation there was no drop in actual demand, it was that the market was too saturated for the retailers. At the time of the market there were like 5 consoles out there on the market, not counting home computer systems. Each with their own libraries, of on interoperable games and hardware

The retailers themselves didn't really know one from the other and as far as they were concerned this video game thing was just some new fad that they were happy to ride but always keeping an eye out for the opportune moment to cash out.

WHen things depped a little they did (at least in North america) different story, pretty much everywhere else.

RThis is why nintendo had such a sweep of the market. The market was HUNGRY and Nintendo sneakily got Nintendo position more of a toy than an electronic appliance. EVer wonder why the console had sio many accessories that were barely supported?

The Zapper, Rob, The Powerpad, and the myriad of turbo controllers.

Now. Video games are recognized as an Industry, not some flash in the pan fad.

And yeah May's a slow month. Those happen OP. Those Happen. Pandemic interrupted a lot of workflow, and then there was the whole ELden Ring and Cyberpunk thing.

The backlash against CYberpunk made a lot of devs reconsider what they were going to release. And Elden Ring blowing up pretty much made publishers a little gun shy about going up against them.
Electric Cupcake 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 3:53 
If anything, mobile gaming is in the same state that predicated the 1983 crash. Nothing but cheap, casual cash grabs, with anything good quickly being buried in unauthoized clones and ripoffs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q30qZSEnI9Q

Of course, AAA gaming is also in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ place, with most studios dumping billions into fancy lighting and water effects and photorealistic textures, and ignoring anything resembling good gameplay or storytelling. 98% of true masterpiece of gaming over the last decade or so have been indy titles.

And don't get me started on freemium games as a service trash. Valve really unleashed a monster when they started adding hats and crates and keys.
https://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=300
最后由 Electric Cupcake 编辑于; 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 3:56
davidb11 2022 年 7 月 2 日 下午 4:41 
We're nowhere close to a second Video Game crash.
That literally is not even remotely possible right now.

The requirements would be such a disaster in itself that it would make a video game crash look very very minor. :P
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