So apparently China is borderline in revolt over Lockdowns and others.

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

Links below but I'm kind of surprised it happened in China. I thought it would be the U.K. since they're going just about as far, but I didn't expect China to do it or for large amounts of the protest for be outright demanding removal of the government. Time will tell if it goes anywhere but man, that went zero to sixty in severity.

And it apparently started because the CCP locked 3 people into their home in such a way no one could get in and out -while it was on fire.- They were that obsessed with quarantining people.

https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1596939632994062337
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1596891499785904128
https://twitter.com/Brick_Suit/status/1596912760520335360

[crunchyfrog]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Amuro0079:

Diposting pertama kali oleh kilésengati:

What I find rather interesting regarding SepentZA: He reports months ahead of mainstream media, referring to the same sources as mainstream media, is targeted by the CCP like investigative journalists are, and yet is now doing most of his work out of an office only using publicly available material and his old contacts - which is unfortunately how mainstream media works nowadays as well.

What is mainstream media* taking this long reporting on issues regarding China? Fact checking?! ♥♥♥♥ they do checking facts!
How is a YouTuber with a tiny media company doing the same or better journalism faster than a bunch of large mainstream news corporations?
Him jet-setting to China on black helicopters multiple times a week to gather information and instigate unrest is obviously propaganda bs. So what does he do different?

Meanwhile, they are happy to report in all seriousness on some prankster inventor with his telly power plant: https://www.netzwelt.de/news/208156-wunder-tv-ohne-strom-tagesschau-faellt-fake-erfinder-rein.html

Shamed be he who thinks evil of it.


* and with mainstream media reporting, I don't mean some essay released on a sub-page or affiliated magazine's website nobody reads, neither a report broadcasted in the very early morning, but prime time TV news reporting half the nation is watching.

More and more people have stopped trusting mainstream media and turned to social media, and that's where SepentZA and his buddy Laowhy86 come in. They were chosen by the US government, and at the white house level no less, to spread lies about China on youtube and pave the way for whatever the US is planning next. Many mainstream reporters, including BBC reporters, subscribe to their channels as well.

Here's the evidence:

Go to around 11:30 for juicy parts, but I do recommend start from the beginning.
https://youtu.be/8DjOJPGJO1U

Lol, no - now you're demosntrating your wumao behaviour again.

That guy in the video you link is a PAID CCP contributor (a white monkey job). It's well documented.

So sorry, but you don't understand how evidence works. Laowhy86 and serpentZA as I showed, present EVIDENCE to back up the claims. You do not. You promote weasel words, distraction, flawed arguemnts like whataboutism and so on.

You don't get to disaprage like you think - this isn't china.

To anyone else that can't follow this and doesn't understand who to believe I'll refer you to the Great Translation Movement (start with Twitter and go from there).
This is a group of Chinese Nationals who translate the ACTUAL chinese news and you'll see which one of us is telling the truth :)
https://twitter.com/TGTM_Official

Watch out for wumaos - they LOVE to do all the dirty illogica tricks like we've seen on this very thread - they'll do the whataboutism of "well your country's not good either", and all the other dishonest tactics.
Then when they can't get their way they#ll just attack the people who present the evidence.

[Amuro0079]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zero, Dark Knight:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Amuro0079:

I do not trust Laowhy86 and Serpentza at all. I have first-hand experience with China myself so I know what it's like. I lived in Beijing for 13 years, and still have family and friends living in China in various cities. When youtube fed me one of their videos, I watched it a bit and immediately felt something was off. Did some digging and found out who they are. Never watched another video from them again. I found youtubers like Cyrus Janssen, Daniel Dumbrill, etc, far more objective, and I can relate to the things they say through my own experience.

And in your experience, is the CCP raising China up to be a better, stronger country than it was,
as I claim?

Or do people like Crunchy have a point?

Definitely, anybody who doesn't see the huge changes in China in the last 40 years for the better is either blind or so biased like Crunchy, a typical hater who would spin everything about China to a negative, and only consume information that props their bias. Calls anyone dare coming out push back the lies from people like SerpentZA and Laowhy86 wumo or paid shill. SerpentZA and Laowhy86 never provide any real evidence, but instead they fabricate evidence and even some of their stories are fabricated. I'm just doing any decent citizen would do, calling out on their lies.

[Zero, Dark Knight]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Amuro0079:

Thank you, I appreciate your commentary.

[Amuro0079]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zero, Dark Knight:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Amuro0079:

Thank you, I appreciate your commentary.

You're welcome!

[crunchyfrog]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Amuro0079:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zero, Dark Knight:

And in your experience, is the CCP raising China up to be a better, stronger country than it was,
as I claim?

Or do people like Crunchy have a point?

Definitely, anybody who doesn't see the huge changes in China in the last 40 years for the better is either blind or so biased like Crunchy, a typical hater who would spin everything about China to a negative, and only consume information that props their bias. Calls anyone dare coming out push back the lies from people like SerpentZA and Laowhy86 wumo or paid shill. SerpentZA and Laowhy86 never provide any real evidence, but instead they fabricate evidence and even some of their stories are fabricated. I'm just doing any decent citizen would do, calling out on their lies.

Demonstrate I'm baised then.

You keep saying this but the only evidence presented thus far are a video from a documented paid shill who works for the CCP in a white monkey job.

Don't keep asserting, present evidence.

This is your problem, because propaganda CANNOT fight evidence can it?

I've pointed to CLEAR DOCUEMTNED VIDEO of all the claims I've made.

[Plaid]

sounds like [some of] it might be typical U.S. spin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjMVIEk4tEw
interesting

[crunchyfrog]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Plaid:

sounds like [some of] it might be typical U.S. spin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjMVIEk4tEw
interesting

Some may be - you'll get it from all sides.

Which is why salient clear evidence needs MORE and better salient evidence to disprove it. NOt weaselly words or excuses or "whataboutism".

[Plaid]

and then theres historical evidence which tellz me not to believe a word that comes out of my government

[crunchyfrog]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Plaid:

and then theres historical evidence which tellz me not to believe a word that comes out of my government

I can dig that. Revisionist history is a terrible trick too.

[TWPanda77]

Oh, I just love some pro CCP propaganda. The CCP is warm and cuddly, it is a shining beacon of freedom, human rights, diversity, equality, democracy and self determination. But most importantly it never grows tired of keeping its citizens safe from all of that evil information that lurks on the internet.

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TWPanda77:

Oh, I just love some pro CCP propaganda. The CCP is warm and cuddly, it is a shining beacon of freedom, human rights, diversity, equality, democracy and self determination. But most importantly it never grows tired of keeping its citizens safe from all of that evil information that lurks on the internet.

Eh, CCP has nothing compared to what they have in North Korea, the Best Korea, comrade.

[crunchyfrog]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TWPanda77:

Oh, I just love some pro CCP propaganda. The CCP is warm and cuddly, it is a shining beacon of freedom, human rights, diversity, equality, democracy and self determination. But most importantly it never grows tired of keeping its citizens safe from all of that evil information that lurks on the internet.

The wuimaos are theb est as shown here on this thread.

Those that try to use whataboutism and dishonest tactics. then when they can't back their claims up with evidence, they resort to attacking the person m,aking the claim.

And then run away.

Never change CCP, neer change.

[Zero, Dark Knight]

The world market itself says China is a great investment.

Nike.
Apple.
and thousands of other factories and companies -all- produce stuff in China.

If that isn't an endorsement then -What is-?

[TWPanda77]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Q-T_3.14.exe:

Diposting pertama kali oleh TWPanda77:

Oh, I just love some pro CCP propaganda. The CCP is warm and cuddly, it is a shining beacon of freedom, human rights, diversity, equality, democracy and self determination. But most importantly it never grows tired of keeping its citizens safe from all of that evil information that lurks on the internet.

Eh, CCP has nothing compared to what they have in North Korea, the Best Korea, comrade.

It is all relative. Though I am not exactly sure what North Korea has to do with this thread. However, I will humor you and say that it exists in its current form because the CCP does not want a successful G20 democracy sharing a border.

[TWPanda77]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zero, Dark Knight:

The world market itself says China is a great investment.

Nike.
Apple.
and thousands of other factories and companies -all- produce stuff in China.

If that isn't an endorsement then -What is-?

No, that is called cheap labor costs and greater profits, it is not an endorsement.