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Catalyst8 Aug 15, 2014 @ 5:41am
What is the problem with child gamers?
So I am below the age of eighteen. And because of that, I kind of lack the ability to grow a neckbeard and many other things that gamers in their twenties normally acquire. One of those things is an incredibly deep voice. So anytime I try to get on the mic in Battlefield 3 or Counter Strike GO, I am Immediatly screamed off the mic. I understand that stereotypicaly* really, really annoying, but instead of immediatly laughing at them and muting them, at least listen to what they have to say.
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Cat Aug 15, 2014 @ 5:59am 
The only problem is really that there can be 20 adults on a game having fun, but it will be that 10 year old rocking the voicechat. And with the amount of crap I heard kids say on these, I stay clear of games like that because of it. It makes people uncomfortable.

If it helps, I played as a kid and online while I was in my teens too, but nobody I played with ever knew and it was all great. You can for example make a good first impression on the chat first, if you really have to talk, so they admit you're not another dumbass kid before they hear your voice.
Catalyst8 Aug 15, 2014 @ 8:14am 
Thanks!
Thats really good feedback!
Ubernerd Lucas Aug 15, 2014 @ 10:32am 
Well, there's one issue that voice chat tends to transmit higher frequencies better than low ones, so your high-pitched voice comes across even higher and it grates on the ears. Then there's also the fact that most preteen gamers who feel the need to get into voice chat aren't very good at the game. Yes, there are preteens who have experience and understand what's going on, but I've been in one too many games of TF2 where a twelve year old tries and fails horribly to "save" the team to want to listen to anyone prepubescent. Yeah, adults ♥♥♥♥ up all the time as well, but statistically an adult more likely to be helping the team in voice.
Catalyst8 Aug 15, 2014 @ 7:11pm 
Yeah, your right. But what I really wanted to know is why will most adults automatically ignore a squeker no matter good or bad, helpful or harmfull.
Catalyst8 Aug 15, 2014 @ 7:14pm 
And if you were saying that I have a high pitched voice in your comment, I do not, I just don't sound like the dark knight.
Ranko Aug 15, 2014 @ 7:49pm 
Originally posted by jared.oberry:
Yeah, your right. But what I really wanted to know is why will most adults automatically ignore a squeker no matter good or bad, helpful or harmfull.
most people go to games to avoid certain parts of everyday life, now keep in mind if we choose an M rated game we generally don't expect to have to take care of/censor ourselves for children, thus making it a heck of a lot more annoying when instead of playing games more suited to their age group, they join in with the adults to be "cool"
Ubernerd Lucas Aug 15, 2014 @ 7:57pm 
Originally posted by jared.oberry:
And if you were saying that I have a high pitched voice in your comment, I do not, I just don't sound like the dark knight.

In my experience, voice chat tends to exaggerate the pitch of someone's voice; low voices get deeper, and high voices get higher.
Cat Aug 16, 2014 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by jared.oberry:
I just don't sound like the dark knight.
Lol at that.

Well you will see such things. It's not your fault, you are just being pre-judged. A generalisation the same way a girl gamer will automatically be considered hot or an adult guy with a speaking disfunction will be considered a loser. Stereotypes. It's not fair at all, it's not correct, but there you go.

Generalising people, putting you into the kid group, makes everything more convenient for the brain, it likes to put labels on things and narrow down people who are in fact entirely different from one another, and we all do this. On top of that, with access to millions of people online, humans tend to ditch everyone and be picky about their company, pick people of the same age, same background, while if you don't have such choice, say you're stuck in a broken lift with someone, you will hold a conversation and be friendly to whoever be it a 60 year old asian woman or a 10 year old white boy.

That'd be the science behind it.
Cat Aug 16, 2014 @ 7:54am 
And btw here is a way around it:
You see a group of 20 people, they're now just a collective group of people to your brain.
You spot they look like tourists, your brain now recognized them as such.
You then walk by them and you hear them speak Spanish to each other, they're Spanish.
At each stage you attached traits to them they may or may not have, but the last thing your brain is going to do is go through the trouble of noticing them as individuals and looking for personal traits, or trying to go against the label you just put on them like saying to yourself "hey I said they're tourists but that one kind of dresses like a local" Your brain just doesn't like to do that.

So how to go around it? say you enter the store and you see one of them in it, and he starts speaking fluent German. He is no longer part of that group to you, you see him as an individual. Your brain will no longer associate him to the rest of the group, say they were loud, he no longer looks like a loud person, say they all looked retirement age, well now you see him as a person and you think "he must be in his forties actually".

Or perhaps he will just speak his name, William. What Spanish person is named like that? Of course your brain will automatically see him as an individual.

So you can break out of the cycle by doing something against the stereotype people see you as or defining yourself as an individual, it forces them to take you out of the collective for the collective to still make sense, and as an added bonus consider you an individual which makes it easier to make friends with. Kids on games are generally stupid, loud,play bad, are offensive to others.
Be smart, be quiet, show you can play, be polite. Give them some recongizable name, whatever not even a real name but Jared is just fine. Squeaky voice is enough to put you into that group at first glance, but if you don't reinforce that and instead go against the stereotype they have to put you out of that group and shear all attachements to it else their brain will self combust.
Eat3n Aug 16, 2014 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by Night Cat:
The only problem is really that there can be 20 adults on a game having fun, but it will be that 10 year old rocking the voicechat. And with the amount of crap I heard kids say on these, I stay clear of games like that because of it. It makes people uncomfortable.

That about sums it up. I'd also add: don't call anyone a "♥♥♥". I think one of the reasons adults hate kid gamers is because far too many kids played COD and called everyone a "♥♥♥" so now that idea that kid gamers=calling everyone a "♥♥♥" is burned to people's minds and thus we don't want to play with kids even if they aren't stupid and immature.
Last edited by Eat3n; Aug 16, 2014 @ 8:39am
Spawn of Totoro Aug 16, 2014 @ 8:34am 
Personally, I don't care. Adult or child, I turn off the mic and voice. Both have been equally ridicules and annoying with their comments. As long as they play well, it doesn't matter to me.
BenjiGonzo Aug 16, 2014 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:
Personally, I don't care. Adult or child, I turn off the mic and voice. Both have been equally ridicules and annoying with their comments. As long as they play well, it doesn't matter to me.
Agreed, heck if anything I actually like the kids more, at least they're amusing...
Last edited by BenjiGonzo; Aug 16, 2014 @ 8:36am
Zennock Aug 16, 2014 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by Silverfox:
Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:
Personally, I don't care. Adult or child, I turn off the mic and voice. Both have been equally ridicules and annoying with their comments. As long as they play well, it doesn't matter to me.
Agreed, heck if anything I actually like the kids more, at least they're amusing...

LOL
dontusethedamnmicthen.
Fork_Q2 Aug 16, 2014 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by american idle:
dontusethedamnmicthen.
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