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The Maddog 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 6:31
VR headsets. Yay or nay?
If you follow gaming or tech news you may or may not be aware of the following.

Valves about to push into their SteamVR 2.0 phase with newer headsets, newer tech and at least 3 AAA VR exlusive titles from them on the horizon.

https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-hooray-valves-going-to-start-shipping-games-again/

https://www.imore.com/valve-knuckles-controllers-everything-you-need-know

Bethseda (among other AAA developers) has just opened a VR spesific studio in Dallas and has the studio working on Fallout 76 and Starfeild (implying VR support).

https://uploadvr.com/skyrim-fallout-4-vr-developer-escalation-becomes-bethesda-dallas/

All the upcoming Nvidia cards have a VR spesific "Virtuallink" connection port on them.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/virtuallink-usb-c-spec-for-vr-headset-laid-down-by-nvidia-oculus-valve-amd-and-microsoft/


This is just the tip of the iceberg with what is coming but one way or another VR is here to stay.
Valve as a company has close to half it's emplyees now working on VR related projects and is actively reqruting more VR developers.

https://www.roadtovr.com/valves-new-site-affirms-role-of-vr-in-companys-future-teases-top-secret-games/

All this without getting into what Oculus and Windows are doing in the VR space.


In short, if you know what you are looking for, you all VR companies are gearing up towards the 2nd gen wave of headsets and are looking to take it from early adopter status to something more mainstream.

It's obviously here to stay as a format / platform but may never reach the hights of contempary gaming standards.

Since I'm the one posting this, I should say I love VR and the last couple of years with my Vive has given me some of the best gaming moments of my life. This is the gaming tech I've been
waiting for since the 80s and like all gaming systems / formats before it, it will only get better over time. That said I'm under no illisions it's going to replace traditional gaming methods anytime soon.


So..do you want a headset? Why or why not? Have you even tried VR?
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Spawn of Totoro 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 7:19 
I actualy felt fine after using VR, but then I have never felt dizzy or such playing a game or motion sickness.

I wonder what Hardcore Henry would be like in VR...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI1Ovh5JnOE
最后由 Spawn of Totoro 编辑于; 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 7:28
🅷🅴🆇🅴🅽 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 7:22 
Oh Jesus ... don't. Just ... don't.
The Maddog 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 7:29 
I never had a VR. Never tried it. Is it a "must have" thing to try and play with? I can't tell ... 3D in cinemas tend to give me headaches.

They're not comparable aside from "the 3D" part. You'd have to try to know for sure. I've never got any feeling of discomfort from my Vive since I got it in 2016.





引用自 Daxank
That's the main thing with VR, there should be more opportunities for the public to test it before having to buy it since not many people can't avoid the motion sickness part of it from what I've read online.

I agree with you about more demo points. At the moment they are few and far between and most peoples only way to try before buying is either to know someone who owns a headset or to go to a VR arcade.

As for the sickness part thats a tought one. All the headsets are diffrent. I've never once felt ill using my Vive. I can put that thing on and do anything (such as VR coaster rides or zero g dog fighting) and other than the adrenaline (seriously), not a thing feels off.

This is pretty much the same with most people I've let try my headset out. Out of 30 or 40 people trying it non of them had issues other than hogging my headset for as long as possible.

An Oculus Rift however (which a freind of mine owns) gives me a migraine after about 30 mins. I dont know if that is to do with fit, the differing screens / lenses, the way it's drivers work, the tracking or even his PC. I just dont like it. The games are the same as the Vives so I cant tell you why it happens.

So yeah...trying the various headsets out is worth doing if you're intrested in buying one.
Zefar 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 7:33 
How to not get motion sickness in VR.

Be sure you can run the games at 90 FPS at all times.
Control your character through either teleportation or just moving around physically. Because if you use some controls that makes your character move without you doing it in real life your brain is gonna have a hard time.

Now I being quite immune to sea sickness I can handle it just fine but my brain still informs me something is wrong.

Space sims and racing sims do fine for most of the time unless you happen to go into a cave where there is ground all over the place, at which point the brain doesn't think you're in a car or spaceship any longer.
🅷🅴🆇🅴🅽 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 7:34 
So ... Everspace it is when I rent a VR. Good. Let's try it. Oh, poor me and my stomach ...
The Maddog 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 7:36 
So ... Everspace it is when I rent a VR. Good. Let's try it. Oh, poor me and my stomach ...

Everspace isnt too bad for beginners acctually.
laff 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 7:46 
Does any single VR set have any EMF shielding yet?
SMIFFY 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 7:54 
引用自 laff
Does any single VR set have any EMF shielding yet?
Do we really need to list all the everyday things that are carcinogenic?
So long as you're not wearing it all day in the blazing sun whilst smoking, guzzling mouthwash, eating processed meat and rubbing your mobile phone all over your body, you should be fine.
最后由 SMIFFY 编辑于; 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 7:59
The Maddog 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 7:58 
引用自 SMIFFY
引用自 laff
Does any single VR set have any EMF shielding yet?
Do we really need to list all the everyday things that are carcinogenic?
So long as you're not wearing it all day in the blazing midday sun whilst smoking, guzzling mouthwash, eating processed meat and rubbing your mobile phone all over your body, you should be fine.

Welp....thats my Saturday ruined.
Daxank 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 8:03 
引用自 The Maddog
引用自 SMIFFY
Do we really need to list all the everyday things that are carcinogenic?
So long as you're not wearing it all day in the blazing midday sun whilst smoking, guzzling mouthwash, eating processed meat and rubbing your mobile phone all over your body, you should be fine.

Welp....thats my Saturday ruined.
Honestly we've pretty much discovered by now that nearly everything on earth gives us cancer. I wonder why so many people still care about protecting themselves. Care about protecting yourself from it or not, you will die anyway, of cancer or something else. And you can't be 100% safe from getting cancer so might as well just live with the idea that one day or the other, you may wake up with cancer or not :goggles:
crgzero 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 9:18 
Nah, I'll give it another 5 years before I waste my time on it. The technology, so far in my experience, is to flakey and the games that work with it are either insanely vapid, or buggy as phuque. LIke fallout 4 when it first luanched in VR. Plus I hear to many people complaining of headaches. So I'll give it some more time, plus it'll get cheaper.

Also being nearly blind in one eye kinda ruins it for me anyway. Although I see 3d movies well enough.
Spawn of Totoro 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 10:19 
引用自 crgzero
Nah, I'll give it another 5 years before I waste my time on it. The technology, so far in my experience, is to flakey and the games that work with it are either insanely vapid, or buggy as phuque. LIke fallout 4 when it first luanched in VR. Plus I hear to many people complaining of headaches. So I'll give it some more time, plus it'll get cheaper..

Personaly, I just want something similar that I can use as another monitor, while using the mouse and keyboard or controller.

Too bad they are all looking at the hightech aspect and not the function aspects. I don't need the motion control and such for what I want to use it for.
Abisha 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 10:20 
VR is failed it's been try so many times before in the past it's just not it.
now if they come up with 3D TV or Laser holograms that might be the next big deal
Spawn of Totoro 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 10:27 
引用自 Abisha
VR is failed it's been try so many times before in the past it's just not it.
now if they come up with 3D TV or Laser holograms that might be the next big deal

i disagree that VR has failed. It is far better then the first VR system and only recently reached consumer grade levels and price points. It does, however, still have a long way to go.

VR isn't intended as a replacement for a monitor, but as a whole experiance and to increase immersion in a game.

It is the first steps to something like in Sword Art Online.

Microsoft tried laser holograms with the Hololense. That failed. Now if one were to take a VR headset with two forward cameras and add an AR overlay, that could work, imho.
The Maddog 2018 年 9 月 7 日 上午 10:31 
引用自 Abisha
VR is failed it's been try so many times before in the past it's just not it.
now if they come up with 3D TV or Laser holograms that might be the next big deal

Oh man..I just love ignorant posts claming this type of rubbish.

Please....do tell everyone how it's failed? What is your benchmark for success vs failure. What market are you comparing it to? What past market are you comparing VR to because I lived through the 90s VR fad and it was not anything like what we have today? I'm also pretty sure these are the first wave of affordable consumer VR headsets because the Virtual Boy was not a VR headset.

From where I'm sitting it's a proven fact that VR is already proving incredibly useful as a research and training tool. For that market, it's future is certain and solid. It's the gaming market where it may or may not take off.

So please...show me the failure. Where is it?















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