Have you ever met a fake gamer?

[Azami]

Have you met someone that actually pretended to be a gamer?

I think out of all the things that people try to be fake at (bodybuilding, kpop, ethnicity,etc) being a fake gamer doesn't really makes sense. We don't get any sort of clout for being a gamer nor do we even get any recognition from it unless, I don't know, if you want to pretend to be a twitch/ gaming streamer. Even with that it's not something worth pursing.


https://youtu.be/K4cmlhpupn0

[Uncle Sam]

tyl0413 eredeti hozzászólása:

Even worse than the examples I gave before, found this video not too long ago of this guy defending the Ubisoft NFTs, hes like "Ive been playing games for 30 years and this is the best thing to happen to gaming" in his "Why gamers should be excited about NFTs" video, if you checked the rest of his channel hes shilling ♥♥♥♥♥♥ mobile and flash games loaded with NFTs, criticizing Ubi Quarts for "not being a good investment as you need to actually play the games to participate", could he tell me once more how much he knows and loves games just in case I didn't get it the first time?

Youtube and Twitch in general is such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: "Guys warzone didn't have an update for a week, gaming is so ♥♥♥♥ now you guys, so I'll have to shill some valorant for the next week while I'm paid to keep up it's artificial popularity after that I'm back to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about this game I hate so much streaming it for 8 hours a day, click here to enter my $99999 PC giveaway and follow my tiktok"

Well people being paid to induce FOMO & FUD sadly has become a common marketing tactic in the gaming AAA corporations.
As I've aforementioned, as customers we must make our voices heard & vote with our wallets, and if plausible gather enough people to start an organization kinda like a transparent & FOSS NGO to make a more direct approach, towards providing feedback in fixing issues and holding both AAA corporations & Indie game companies to accountability. Because the Entertainment Software Association, is a highly corrupt and useless organization.

[Azami]

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

Marc eredeti hozzászólása:

I had gaming addiction. Does that count? This is an old steam account that I made but never used. I used to have another, main steam account that I had since 2014. But you most likely don't care and really I don't have time to reply all the things you said but to say that you completely misunderstood my post as well as some of the other people on here. Just look at my other replies because I don't want to repeat myself.

No you are demonstrably misunderstanding the point that you CANNOT ever get to what you claim unless you are a mind reader.

There is ZERO way you can tell who is a real gamer or not because the criteria for being a GAMER is so damned low.

You need to like playing ANY amount of games (even just one) at any point. That's it.

Crunchy. At this point, you're just being too... out there. I'm sure you have met one fake person in real life and surely would have noticed. Well, if you ever been part of social circles.

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tyl0413 eredeti hozzászólása:

AD eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm not sure what would make someone a fake gamer. Someone who claims to play games but actually never does? Never met someone like that, but I'm sure some exists (because there are all kind of people).

My definition of gamer is someone who plays games, btw. If there is some other definition that makes sense I would like to hear it, because I can't think of one.

My definition would be someone who spends time at least somewhat regularly playing games and think about them even when not actively playing, like watching videos, participating in forums, therefor excluding i think rightfully so those that opened Pinball 3D Space Cadet or candy crush twice in their life. Preferably because they actually enjoy it and not just due to external pressure, so a kid playing fortnite just to fit in I don't count either.
I think this definition holds up well, there's few people who have not touched a video game in their life these days but most people who only rarely play and more basic games generally would probably not identify themselves as a "gamer", meanwhile most people on this forum probably would.

Ok, I guess I can see where you're coming from. And I guess I'll agree that there it should happen somewhat regularly (like if you played snake once when you were 12 it doesn't mean you're a gamer when you're 30), but I don't think you have to be an active part of the community of some game or even watch videos about games to qualify. That you play games for your enjoyment is enough for me. But as I said, I can see where you're coming from, even if my definition is a bit different.

[crunchyfrog]

tyl0413 eredeti hozzászólása:

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

Correlation does NOT equal causation. You assereed this was due to these gamers - where's the evidence for that?

From what I've seen it's NOT dumbing down - that's just a myth and a piss poor one circulated by people who don't understand.

When gaming started out and went through the early generations, memory chips were expensive. Tech wasn't as good as now, obviously. So you had MUCH smaller games. To add "value" to the games so they couldn't be completed in 20 minutes, they made3 them ridiculously hard.

That does NOT make them the default to aspire to. The problem here is that that turned a lot of people off.

Gam,ing has since become a household thing. You'd be bloody stupid as a company to ignore that - so you make it as welcoming as possible to EVERYONE. They're still just as hard if you wish for them to be. But they do smooth out corners, but you're missing the point.

The reason is not dumbing down but accessibility and sales. You have to have empathy for ALL situations.

Most gamers are in the 25-35 age group. Likely with families, at work and with limited time available. You cater for that.

Also, there's one group that makes up 20% of ALL Gamers - disabled. You cater for that too.

But more than this, you're missing another point. It ain't dumbing down that is the problem, but risk aversion and that has absolutely nothing to do with gamers - but the companies and their ballooning budgets. It's made the gambles of niche games and new ideas risky, so they follow trends.

This is well documneted.

Love how you conveniently ignore the other points that you didn't already have an excuse made up for ready to go. Read this very thread and people tend to agree, at least those who have more than 5 games on Steam and less than 3000 hours on Dota 2, go on forums where actual people play games not shill journalists and youtubers. You go try defend paying significantly more for significantly less, wouldn't be surprised if you did but I hope you won't.

You can make up the dumb excuses all you want for turning franchises upside down to milk the "everyone" who wasn't interested in the first place while ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on those who without these games wouldn't even exist past the first release at best.

Everyone always had the choice to play games if they wanted, more so before where multiple completely different types of games could be successful next to each other unlike today where everything has to be a free to play mobile live service always online third person battle royale.

The "accessibility" argument is so bad, nothing more accessible than making games that require thousands of hours of time and thousands of dollars invested to even have a chance of experiencing the content complete version meanwhile before you just paid $60 once and played as little or as much without constantly being bothered with no restrictions.

So accessible to buy a piece of plastic that strips your consumer rights and requires you to pay additional fees to access features you already paid for before but hey at least you never need to hear a technical term or do a simple search. If you have any problems just give the corporation more money before they tell you to kick rocks and buy the new one.
Thinking is so old school and hard why not outsource it like everything else to those loving corporations.

If people like you actually cared about accessibility you should be outrages at these corporations who from top down dictate how insanely time wasting modern games should be while just removing even more content, paying the press to brainwash people into thinking how good everything has gotten and anyone who disagrees must be silenced meanwhile they run away with billions stolen and laugh at how dumb we are for falling for it.

Well that's a massive strawman.

You're arguing against points I haven't made.

The fact is as I said - my points were not opinion but FACT. This is well demonstrated across the industry and that's how they work. You can like it or not - I haven't said ANYTHING about that so you can't accuse me of supporting such things.

I'm afraid this is complete nonsense.

[crunchyfrog]

AD eredeti hozzászólása:

tyl0413 eredeti hozzászólása:

My definition would be someone who spends time at least somewhat regularly playing games and think about them even when not actively playing, like watching videos, participating in forums, therefor excluding i think rightfully so those that opened Pinball 3D Space Cadet or candy crush twice in their life. Preferably because they actually enjoy it and not just due to external pressure, so a kid playing fortnite just to fit in I don't count either.
I think this definition holds up well, there's few people who have not touched a video game in their life these days but most people who only rarely play and more basic games generally would probably not identify themselves as a "gamer", meanwhile most people on this forum probably would.

Ok, I guess I can see where you're coming from. And I guess I'll agree that there it should happen somewhat regularly (like if you played snake once when you were 12 it doesn't mean you're a gamer when you're 30), but I don't think you have to be an active part of the community of some game or even watch videos about games to qualify. That you play games for your enjoyment is enough for me. But as I said, I can see where you're coming from, even if my definition is a bit different.

The thing is though, that's THEIR metric, which isn't objective.

The objective part of it is that you must have played any game ever, really. This is basically a no true scotsman fallacy.

The fact is unless one can read another person's mind, you cannot say whether they are fake or not because the bar is so low. All they need to have done to qualify is to have played a ny game at any time to any amount.

Now one can explain a little further and say "I don't like that and I personally have my own metric where I'll only talk to certain people who play to a certain level" and that's cool. But the point where one talks about it objectively, well, you can't make such claims.

[prtycruz]

Those fake ass gamers? Sure, I come across them every waking moment of my life. As soon as I step out of my residence, they walk the streets like they own the place. Those pricks. I swear that one day I'll show those numbnuts a thing or two. They should know that only genuine gamers have the authority to call themselves gamers! Despicable beings!

[Swarmfly]

Of course I know one. He's me.

[【ボス B o s s】]

Exotic French Cave Cheese eredeti hozzászólása:

Of course I know one. He's me. :aos2nanako:

https://youtu.be/VvmXNyTFBE4

[Ruckman_Void]

Fake...
Like...
Inflatable?

[crunchyfrog]

Ruckman_Void eredeti hozzászólása:

Fake...
Like...
Inflatable?

Maybe like carob is fake chocolate?

Or maybe chicory instead of coffee?

[Jej]

Honestly I wouldn't even want to meet a "real" gamer.

[Ruckman_Void]

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

Ruckman_Void eredeti hozzászólása:

Fake...
Like...
Inflatable?

Maybe like carob is fake chocolate?

Or maybe chicory instead of coffee?

Inflatable polystyrene carob...

[crunchyfrog]

Ruckman_Void eredeti hozzászólása:

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

Maybe like carob is fake chocolate?

Or maybe chicory instead of coffee?

Inflatable polystyrene carob...

Now there's a thing!

Don't speak too loudly as there may be some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ chocloate company watching :)

[Ruckman_Void]

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

Ruckman_Void eredeti hozzászólása:

Inflatable polystyrene carob...

Now there's a thing!

Don't speak too loudly as there may be some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ chocloate company watching :)

Mum's the word...