Getting doxxed on discord

[schizo]

Hello everyone, so unfortuantally im getting doxed by one of my irl "best friend" and now hes LITERALLY EXPOSING MY INFORMATION, my name, my real face as his pfp, location of my school, and more ♥♥♥♥. Im actually beyond pissed off at him right now and you may wonder why he might do this, ITS LITERALLY BECAUSE I MADE A ♥♥♥♥♥ JOKE ABOUT SENDING AN EMAIL TO HIS TEACHER ABT HIM PLAGIARIZING (And keep in mind, he actually cheated on his assingments but I didn't send anything to his teacher) I feel like I really should expose him to the staff at my school but I'm convinced he said he would shoot up the school and kill him self (probably not serious but he literally said he would've shot up the school). My life is getting threatened because of this and I don't know what to do.

BTW I did report it to discord already but its really ♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Samwise]

Publicado originalmente por Snozzberry:

So you "joked" about snitching on your best friend for something he actually did, and now you're freaking out because he responded by exposing the skeletons in your closet?

Next time, don't start what you don't intend to finish.

What skeletons? They're revealing stuff like face, where OP lives, where OP goes to school and such...

[agu]

Report it to your school and local authorities, especially if he threatened with shooting up the school, if you have proof of that it's a very serious allegation.
Then you can just beat him up.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por Snozzberry:

Publicado originalmente por The Tops:

Your 'friend' has issues and needs help. Look up your local police department number (which is different than 911) and explain to them that someone you know has been threatening to shoot up a school and kill themselves.

Not sure where y'all are from, but I'm pretty sure that filing a false police report about an imminent school shooting is a LOT more illegal than scholastic plagiarism.

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Yup, absolutely this.

First off, they aren't your friend, no matter what they claim or you might think. If they've doxed you that is indeed a crime and actionable. But more serious are those other threats.

You CANNOT know if this person is serious, so DO report it to your local police. All police in most of the western world have their internet crimes division. Speak to them and make the report.

Think of it this way, if he's just one big bullshitter edgelord, no harm done. He might get a visit and he may dampen down his behaviour in future. Or he may be serious in which case you might save another's life.

I wouldn't worry about the doxing though. Unless they have things like actuall bank cards or things like that, he won't likely do anything with it. And even if he did do something like send harrassing mail to your door, then again, by reporting it to police, that should also deal with that too.

General rule of thumb: People who use threats of committing suicide or mass shootings as emotional blackmail have zero intent of following through.

Second general rule of thumb: Don't hang out with academically dishonest people.

Cripes, am I the only one whose head isn't balls deep in their own Unus Annus?

Yeah but it cannot be false if they outright say it or allude to it. If you report "this is defo going to be a school shooting" maybe so, but there's these things called WORDS. They express things.

So if you report "I have concerns about this person who is trying to dox me, and I also have concerns about their mental state" please demonstrate how you could be guilty under such a scenario?

[The Grim Reaper]

The way I would see it is that I better kill them first.

[L1qu1dator]

Well, what are friends for...?

[Azza ☠]

If you are 13 years old or younger, then COPPA law comes into play here and can act quickly for your personal information removal.

If older, it will actually depend on your and their country, if a dox is legal or not. Such as in Sweden, if doxed for the purpose of being harmed, it's illegal. Otherwise if the dox itself isn't illegal to perform, it's the actions taken upon that dox, such as cyberbullying, cyberstalking, ddos attacks, harassment, impersonation, or blackmailing, etc.

If it's local, you can report it to the police.

Otherwise for major online case, report it to the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3). Warning they can work with the FBI and CIA on cases, leading to an arrest and/or shutdown of their ISP.

Since it's someone you know in real life, try to discuss it with them first, if they are actually willing to listen and remove it themselves. Otherwise reconsider them as being an actual friend, if they cheat on work and willing to throw you under the bus to avoid assumed punishment on something they did themselves.

[Morkonan]

Publicado originalmente por schizo:

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I should've clipped him saying that but even then can you even report it?

You not only can, you should. You don't have to have "evidence" to show them beyond your report. You are not a criminal investigator nor are you bound by the same restrictions as law enforcement.

Why are you still here and not reporting this? The longer this thread goes, the more chance there is that it will be reported to Steam and you'll be out of the loop of possible choices. You think Valve is going to just lock/delete the thread and be willing to withstand the scrutiny if something really does happen that they should have maybe acted on? They gonna go change their name to Meta-Steam, then?

What happens when this kid really does shoot up the school, inspired by his interactions with you, general angst fueled by highly publicized news reporting, or true mental defect or disability? What then? Are you going to step up to the plate and let everyone know that you should have reported him, but didn't? Cong, way to go, chief...

And, if nothing comes of it? At least he may get some help he could use. Maybe some investigator will use this suspicion to take a look at his social-media posts, maybe even go so far as to check to see if there's any traceable purchases of firearms, ammo, fifty-eleven pounds of fertilizer.. Do you know what your best friend really does when you're not around? Maybe, maybe not - You've got a serious judgement call to make and he's put you in that position, no matter how you got there.


As far as what started all this, who cares? It's gone too far. Who's going to act to stop it going further? It was pure shenanigans, but now its serious business.

[Genvid]

Report to police. This is illegal.

[Morkonan]

Note to OP - Get out of this situation by calling and talking to his parents and informing them about what is going on. Let them be the judge of what should be done. Or, instead, speak to your own parents and put the matter into their hands.

My apologies, but I just don't interact a lot with kids, so I didn't take the appropriate approach earlier and likely put more responsibility on your shoulders than is due.

Tell adults, let them handle the adult stuff.

That is your responsibility right now, so do that and let them work it all out.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at:

Publicado originalmente por Snozzberry:

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I know that America is turning upside down from "innocent until proven guilty" to "guilty until proven innocent" but guilty people aren't the only one's who need lawyers & this reversal of values is exactly why.

Anyways, the law hasn't completely dissolved yet, & while vigilantes might be willing to murder someone over a mere claim-
( I know because this has happened in my state - the case that comes to mind involved a claim that was DISPROVEN as false, btw, but the accused man was already murdered! )
-it's still possible for OP, while attempting to protect themselves, to get in trouble with the law, in addition to gullible idiots in the public possibly trying to harm them :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&t=6m32s

6:32

That entire video is important toward this point but 6:32 is most relevant.
You should never speak to the police without consulting with a lawyer first, even if you have to report something to them (which sadly, it's a crime NOT to in some instances, which runs contrary to the 5th amendment but... courts aren't run by machines or divine beings ...they're run by people); in the eyes of some departments, every member of the public is a criminal
- victim or perpetrator, your freedom stands in their way.


:pmfoe:

To add to this, things like Tik Tok and all that and the court of public opinion are a disaster.

Far too many ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ accusations thrown around online that idiots do knee jerk responses too instead of reporting it to the proper authorities to look into.

[AustrAlien2010]

You do not know each other at all, if you don't understand whether or not someone is making a blunt joke or not.

You did well by reporting the impersonation, I think.

[Morkonan]

Publicado originalmente por Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at:

Publicado originalmente por Morkonan:

You not only can, you should. You don't have to have "evidence" to show them beyond your report. You are not a criminal investigator nor are you bound by the same restrictions as law enforcement.
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Maybe but an attorney could provide better advice since the "friend" is using his real name & photo as their avatar & screen-name, therefore, a simple screenshot will look like a screenshot of the OP himself saying these things.

THAT... is a significant problem.

The "evidence" agaisnt the "friend" incriminates the OP, due to how it has been framed by the "friend".


:bloodshot:

That's meaningless. Though, sure, consulting an attorney is always a good idea. ALWAYS. And, they'd tell this young person to talk to their parents, immediately.

But, nobody is going to accept some "screenshot" of an account post where a primary claim is that the account, itself, is bogus.

This is not "Internet Court" we're talking about or "screenshot or it didn't happen." This is Real Life Stuffs. If it was pursued enthusiastically in a worse-case situation, every rat ever that crawled over the wires that led to the connection that attached to that account would be subpoenaed and every host, ISP, and Uber driver connected to such an account would be coughing up Real Life records, not "screenshots."

[Shugo]

your name, picture, school, all that information is useless to the population unless you have an obsessive stalker who will drive dozens of hours to meet you and the only thing preventing him from finding you is you kept your information completely hidden until just now

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

Publicado originalmente por Morkonan:

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This is not "Internet Court" we're talking about or "screenshot or it didn't happen." This is Real Life Stuffs.
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Perhaps you're not fully aware of what sort of massive miscarriages of justice, frequently, happen in "real life stuff" then.

Publicado originalmente por Morkonan:

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But, nobody is going to accept some "screenshot" of an account post where a primary claim is that the account, itself, is bogus.
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I know that OP is most likely in the USA & not Canada but there's not a lot of difference between these 2 countries, & what you are saying is bogus & would never be accepted... that's what happened in the case against Gregory Alan Elliot, in Canada.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Gregory+Alan+Eliot+homophobic+tweet

"Judge In Twitter Harassment Case May Have Been Fooled by a Parody Account"

"Paraody account" is an unearned euphemism for malicious impersonation in this case, by the way.

Publicado originalmente por K3-27:

Boys will be boys.

Implying that women never dox anyone or do anything even remotely similar.

The case brought against Gregory Alan Elliot in Canada, several years back, along with all of the false accounts that used phishing tactics to spoof similar looking names, in order to frame him for hateful messages that he didn't make, evidences otherwise, though.

Women are just as capable of being awful people as men are.
...and they actually do, more often than people give them credit for.

People often push this "almost zero percent" statistic for how often women commit serious crimes, when the actual number (while it varies depending on the crime in question) is actually closer to 1 / 4 people or somewhere around 25%, according to FBI statistics.

[Morkonan]

Publicado originalmente por Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at:

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That entire video is important toward this point but 6:32 is most relevant.
You should never speak to the police without consulting with a lawyer first, even if you have to report something to them (which sadly, it's a crime NOT to in some instances, which runs contrary to the 5th amendment but... courts aren't run by machines or divine beings ...they're run by people); in the eyes of some departments, every member of the public is a criminal
- victim or perpetrator, your freedom stands in their way.


:pmfoe:

I guarantee you that lawyer would tell the OP to report this incident, forthwith. After he was paid his fee, of course.

An attorney is a Member of the Bar and an Officer of the Court. Does nobody realize that?

Dang Internetz... No Knowledge Required - Press-Button, out comes magical crap.


The OP doesn't have any involvement, AFAIK, concerning terrorist threats or some crime that may or may not have been committed or has yet to be committed. Seeking a defense lawyer is probably not high up on the list of sensible actions. Sure, do it, since I'm not going to imply someone shouldn't, but there's a heck of a lot more at stake than an internet-argument.

There are few States that have firm Good Samaritan protections in place. But, there are plenty that have negligence, accomplice, conspiracy, and other such indirect charges... Though, the OP is likely a minor. Judging by this, moving on this issue now is in the best interest of everyone involved. EVERYONE.


Someone get this darn kid to talk to his parents, please?

The "Internet" is not where this conversation should be happening.