Competitive Online Gaming

[Jackie Daytona]

For around nine years, I've been trying to break into competitive online PC games. I've had no success.

I might be getting the timeline a little wrong, but it went something like this:

I started with RTS. As it was my favorite game genre for a large portion of my life. I couldn't pull a high enough APM. (Actions per minute.) Held me back.

I moved on to fighting games. Found that I couldn't do advanced combos. Limited my damage which kept me from being competitive against high skill players.

I was playing a game on the side. It was kinda like a MOBA. I just kept losing, though. So, I moved on again.

Thinking MOBA's might be my thing, I tried a bunch. I liked them. Didn't like me back. No matter how good I got, or how hard I carried... I just lost all the time, anyway.

So, I tried card games. Had a lot of fun in each. Until I hit a wall. Simply could not win after that. All I seem to face are experts with impossible to defeat decks.

After that, I went into a cycle. Kept trying them all again. Thinking I must've missed something. Or maybe there was a bad meta. Every time my experience just repeated. Same as it was.

I then gave shooters a try. Far too many cheaters. I can't do anything.

From there, I tried all sorts of games. It's always the same: I'm just not very good.

It isn't for lack of effort. That's for sure. I've sunk 1000s of hours into online gaming. With no positive result.

I don't understand how anyone manages to be good at games. I do everything I'm supposed to do, and it's never enough. Why?

Why can't I pump a lot of time into a game and be good? Seems to be the only thing that good players do. I play just as much as major streamers for the games I play. But I'm nowhere near as good.

Why is it that what works for everyonelse doesn't work for me at all? I don't understand.

[刘鹏辉 15947033800]

why would you

[Jackie Daytona]

Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用：

<Insert Kazoo Circus Music Here> の投稿を引用：

I don't think he realizes, being a pro doesn't mean only playing the game on stream and raking in cash.

It's legit thousands of hours when not playing the game, formulating strategies, calculating damage numbers, practicing aim, practicing your keyboard use/hand placements so you don't fat finger your ult on accident.

Back when Overwatch was new, I wasn't much, a top 100 widowmaker for 2 seasons. However, I couldn't sustain it. Because it meant to get any better, I'd need to sacrifice mental and physical wellness, my social life, and revolve my entire existence around a video game.

Exactly. OP thinks that just playing the game is enough. And reading from the the OP they posted, they give up way too easily as well.

To become a professional gamer you actually have to put in the effort and it's more than just playing hours.

Incorrect. All you've done is cherry picked and straw-manned. Like most of your posts. It's just a quick drive-by trolling.

You know nothing about me. Either of you. Willing to judge me based on statements in a single thread.

I'm good at many games. Just can't be pro at any. Can't break through to any significant level of skill.

From this you derive: must not be trying. You're both geniuses. And not both forum trolls supporting each other across Steam for years. (One of you is probably an alt of the other.)

[Jackie Daytona]

This is... one long response. And so I guess I have to give you a similarly long retort. Apologies to anyone that hates long comments. This post took over 3 hours of my life to complete. (But since I have one foot in the grave... I suppose it doesn't matter.)

Also, you need to learn to quote properly. This post required an excessive amount of editing.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

Why not?

All sorts of people want to be all sorts of things. Why do people think my dreams are nonsense?

That's not an answer.

Why do you want to become a professional competitive gamer?

I answered your question with a question. You want a direct response. Fair enough. However, you didn't answer my question. That said...

When I was a kid, I saw a dumb movie. "The Wizard"[www.imdb.com]. (Not to be confused with "The Wiz".) I was an impressionable lad. It created a dream in my mind. Of being a pro gamer.

Back then, being a pro gamer wasn't possible. I had no choice but to accept that. I told my parents I wanted to go to NES tournaments. They laughed in my face. They thought I was a dumb little kid fantasing.

Many years later, out of nowhere, it became a thing. And I desperately wanted to be a part of it. However, my life circumstances were poor. I got fired from a great job. (Entirely due to bad decisions, on my part. A very complicated and long story not suitable for this post.) I was unable to work for years. I didn't have internet. I didn't have cable television. I couldn't even get a TV signal. Couldn't even upgrade to a smartphone. Attempted suicide and ended up in a coma for 3 days.

Anyway, to fast-forward... this dark time ended. Thought about what I really cared about. What really mattered to me. "Pro gamer" is the thing that kept coming to mind. A new reason to live.

I wanted to be a Blip partner. (Look that up if you've never heard of it.) Never felt I was good enough. Then Blip shut down. Thought about making "Let's Play" videos on YouTube. However, I couldn't figure out how to record. (OBS, Game DVR, and Shadow Play weren't a thing back then.)

Fast-forwarding again, that brings us to now. I have no idea how to express my inner will or motivations. Hopefully, I've answered your question.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

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Can't say I've seen a lot of such vids. Or any. To be honest. I might just be forgetting, but I've not seen such things.

In fact, most deny ever having any difficulty. They claim it was easy, and that anyone can do it. Given enough time.

And, you believe that?

Yes.

...or at least... I did. At one time.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Behold, the numerous ranks of successful professional gamers... Like.. five? Out of how many hopeful players?

There are literally hundreds. If not thousands.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

You may as well become a professional rapper by pressing your own CDs and selling them on streetcorners or a writer by paying a vanity publisher or squishing out your prose onto Amazon.

Nonsense.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Sure, anyone can be a "professional" if they have loose standards. What standards do you have and what do you want to achieve?

Anything that's easy to do isn't going to pay very well and probably isn't worth anyone's time pursuing.

That makes no sense at all.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

...No. I just assume they are weak.

Ah, there it is, the implied elitism behind the "pro-gamer" self-titled label, huh?

What are you talking about? At no point did I declare myself a pro-gamer. In fact, I did the exact opposite.

Starting to think I'm talking to someone that is trolling. The amount of effort you've put in is impressive enough to warrant a response, however.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

Playing games all week is hard? Can't be worse than cleaning public toilets/floors 8 hours per day.

Performance anxiety and the stress of maintaining everyone else's expectations is "hard."

lol. Okay. I've been trolled.

You really think that playing a game is as hard as cleaning public toilets? Sure, buddy. Pry a bloody tampon off a wall, or unclog a toilet overflowing with feces. Then you can tell me that being entertaining is harder. Until then? You're clueless. Or a troll.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Getting so incensed about the "dedication" and "work" self-professed pro-gamers yammer about to the point where the responsibility is overwhelming... is hard.

What?

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

What if you lose you spot on the team because you lost a match? One match. Some other guy wins his match and now you're a nobody... No team, no contract, no promos, no more fans cheering you on... all gone. One match. That's not easy, is it?

No pro gamer loses their spot over one match. Sorry. Try again.

Even if they did? Such a player would be picked up by another team.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Ever seen some top-ranked player in some FPS screaming, pulse-pounding through their neck, ranting and raving about some minute change in the game that they have chosen to tie their personal self-actualization needs to that will "destroy the world as we know it?"

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

Yes. And it's pathetic.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

It's human.

Then stop commenting. Because it's "human" to complain. Therefore, you should have no problem with anything I say or do. Since it's "human".

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

You are talking to an insane person right now. Just so we are clear.

Thanks, though. You've confirmed I'm in the right place.

"Insanity" is relative. You're not insane enough that you can not interact with reality.

Insanity is objective. When weighed against society, as a whole.

You're lucky. You have no concept of the madness brought by social isolation for years. You can't even begin to understand. That's probably good for your mental health.

Personally, I'm on the verge of a total meltdown. I'm rapidly losing control and don't care. Because the world hates me. Therefore my actions don't matter. Because the world will hate me no matter what I do. As has been proven my entire life.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

No one cares about such people. I'm not stupid. I looked into streaming. People that don't stand out get no traction. You have to be really good, or unusually entertaining.

I'm neither. I actually started streaming for a time. No one cared. No one watched.

The ranks of streamers and youtubers are filled with very successful game players who showcase games and give players good, useful, information on how to improve their performance.

Nope! Not a shred of truth to that.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfK7qpS954pk14YvDCsWCuw/videos

This guy is one of the top streamers of PUBG. Easily one of the most skilled players of all time. He got his fame off informational/tutorial videos. Used to get over a million views on his vids. Now? He's lucky to break 100k.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Improve your performance there in ways that matter to the audience. If all you can focus on is wins/losses and you can't get wins... you're applying for the wrong job.

What are you talking about?

Very few viewers want to watch a failure or a has-been. Focusing on being good is a requirement. Not an option.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

I never even got a chance to show how entertaining I can be. (Way more than the average streamer. I can assure you that!) Like everything I do... it's was a waste of time.

No.

What?

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Everything you do is not a waste of time,

lol. Wrong.

Spend years of your life in a pursuit that yields no results? Most definitely a waste of time.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

though you may certainly feel that way about yourself. Understand - Who you really are and how you may feel about yourself, from time to time, are not always the same thing. You will always be your own most enthusiastic critic because you may be very quick to judge yourself unfairly.

I judge myself based on my failings and accomplishments. I have no accomplishments. Only failures.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

Good advice. That's not me, though.

Unfortunately, people are unwilling to listen to the words of a failure.

Someone who clicks on your video to try to learn about a game doesn't have omniscience and does not know anything about you being a "failure." IF you do a good job and help them, they won't give a crap about the number of matches you've won- ALL they will know is that you helped them.

People that give advice, but are bad? No one listens to them. Even if the advice is good.

Most people with popular tutorial videos get no return viewers. No subs. No money. People come, get the info, and never come back.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

The net is full of children. Literally.

At any given time in (modern) history, there are more children than adults. What does that matter? How does that have anything to do with me wanting to be a pro gamer?

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

They're everywhere and their NICs aren't different than anyone else's.

So, what?

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Yet, their opinions are largely childish and unrefined.

Being children. That's natural.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

So, if you get a lot of feedback from children complaining that you're a loser, remember who they are - Children.

Um. I didn't get feedback from my streams. Because no one watched. Because I'm not awesome at games. Not because some kids made fun of me.

I should stop responding, but your effort leads me to believe you really feel this way.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

http://www.ultrachentv.com/2020/05/23/ignoring-rank/

James Chen has tried (for many years) to make a career out of knowing fighting games, but not being good at them. No one cares. I'll suffer the same fate. Just for trying.

He seems like he had been pretty successful.

Right. I link a webpage for him, a website he made to promote himself, and there is literally ONE comment. From a post made TWO YEARS AGO. On a site that hasn't seen a post in over a year.

I'm clearly delusional. This is what success looks like. My bad.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

But, then again, didn't he masturbate on someone's waifu figurine or something?

(See statement above about "pro-gamers" and being "well adjusted." I guess he well-adjusted his aim?)

I know nothing of or about this. No idea where/how you dug up that dirt.

Also, ad hominem. Attacking the person rather than the argument. I never said anything about "well-adjusted". Making this a strawman, as well.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

That's harder than you think. They won't even talk to me. At all. About anything. Pro players/streamers are aloof.

I contacted my favorite streamer about a year ago. He blocked and unfriended me. It was nothing more than a casual comment. (Basically just telling him that I liked him.)

There's no talking to these people. And believe me, he was not the first. I always get the same reaction. No matter how nice/polite I am.

If you're looking just at the "pro-streamers" and, remember, they say it's "so easy"... then you're looking in the wrong place. Fifty-eleven hopefuls are trying to message them, too.

Instead, get down in the muck, learn a game, learn its online community and the teams of players that play it and then go put in an application to join, directly.

My only mistake was not being good enough to be recognized as someone worth talking to. Not sure how I could do anything about that. Not like pro teams are going to be any different.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

"Pro-Streamer-Gamers" are probably not handling their own social media accounts are aren't likely to be answering any messages from anyone they don't already know signs paychecks and endorsement deals for them.

Some of them? Sure. The guy I'm talking about? Not at all. He barely breaks even on his YouTube videos. He cannot afford a social media manager.

I'm not so dumb as to contact a hugely popular person and then be disappointed. This guy accepted my friend request. Then un-friended me months later when I told him he was cool.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

Competitive teams aren't open to players with bad stats. Similarly, no one watches people that are bad at games. Streaming will not get me noticed by pro teams. I don't have the skill or viewership for anyone to care.

Someone out there wants players.

They don't want bronze league failures. (like me)

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Their team may be full of suck. But, you can not start out at the top if you can't gain the experience to be able to hone your skills enough to qualify.

Thanks for stating the obvious?

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Look at anyone who's been successful in performing arts and sports, which is what you're talking about. Where did they start?

They started with natural talent and then worked their way up from there. Unlike me. A person that had to do things the hard way. Through ACTUAL work. A person that never went pro and knew nothing but failure.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

How many well-known bands had to play crappy bar circuits and live in a hole in the ground before they got the right sound and then got "lucky" enough to be noticed?

You don't understand how the music industry works. Especially if you think luck has anything to do with it.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

How many hours did a professional athlete put into training until they learned how to train correctly?

None.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

And, how many professional athletes were overlooked just due to chance?

None. You'll be picked up if you have skill and perseverance.

I can throw a ~70 mph fast ball. That's my limit. No pro team will consider me. Not because I'm "overlooked", but because I'm simply not good enough.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

"Luck" is a huge thing in such endeavors.

And, you can make your own "luck," too. But, doing so requires "work." And, you have to "work right" to succeed at doing it.

If that were the case? I'd be God-tier in everything I've worked at. You tell lies.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

At the end of the day, though, if you just can't do it... you just can't do it. So what? Find something else.

Like, what?

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

There are plenty of great sports commentators

That are forgotten footnotes in history.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

that don't pleasure themselves on waifu figurines that were once athletes, themselves.

Proof, or it didn't happen. Anyone can start a rumor.

[Arthur, King of the Britons]

If you worked half as hard at gaming as your do on your long winded useless posts you might actually go somewhere OP. Get off the forums and grind your way to the top, literally the only way. Pick a game and stick to it, candy apple.

[Jackie Daytona]

gagnrad の投稿を引用：

If you worked half as hard at gaming as your do on your long winded useless posts you might actually go somewhere OP. Get off the forums and grind your way to the top, literally the only way. Pick a game and stick to it, candy apple.

If you did anything but troll I might have some help from the FGC. So much for that!

Thinking that posting means you don't train is delusional. And ad hominem. And strawman.

Be sure to hate on someone struggling, though. That proves the FGC isn't 100% trolls and haters.

[Arthur, King of the Britons]

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

gagnrad の投稿を引用：

If you worked half as hard at gaming as your do on your long winded useless posts you might actually go somewhere OP. Get off the forums and grind your way to the top, literally the only way. Pick a game and stick to it, candy apple.

If you did anything but troll I might have some help from the FGC. So much for that!

What?

Look at it another way. "Professional" athletes spend most of their life playing sports and honing their talents. They spent their whole lives working on their skills, sometimes regardless of personal feelings. If this is the level of "professional" that you would like to be as a gamer, go out and practice instead of whining about it. Genuinely if you're serious, you should be paying someone to tell you what I just did and what half the people on this thread have told you. Suck it up buttercup.

You want an ad hominem attack? I can tell you were never picked to be on any team sports or have never had a coach. git gud.

Oh I get it, You saw SF4 in my games and assumed I only play fighters. Nah, you name it, I'll blow your o-ring out.

[Decathect]

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

Be sure to hate on someone struggling, though.

You don't have to struggle if you just go get a job like I said.

You guys that don't work are honestly your own worst enemies. Do you realize how much your life would improve if you even just got a little part time job somewhere?

You'd have more money to spend, you'd be able to meet people and maybe find people with similar interests, it would get you up and moving, etc.

[Decathect]

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

When I was a kid, I saw a dumb movie. "The Wizard"[www.imdb.com]. (Not to be confused with "The Wiz".) I was an impressionable lad. It created a dream in my mind. Of being a pro gamer.

Back then, being a pro gamer wasn't possible. I had no choice but to accept that. I told my parents I wanted to go to NES tournaments. They laughed in my face. They thought I was a dumb little kid fantasing.

You based your whole life plan on a crappy kids movie from the 80's...

Look, the ONLY thing you should thank that movie for is giving us a sneak peak at MB3. Thats it.

You need to grow, mentally and spiritually as I feel from your posts you've been emotionally stunted as a result of living in the past, and living in your fantastical delusions.

Get busy living, or get busy dying.

[Jackie Daytona]

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Or, stay in school and learn a real profession or go study up on one.

Last time I was in college was 10 years ago. Aced all my classes. Except one. Failed ONE class. Why? Because the teacher wouldn't allow me to take the final exam. (For political reasons.) Literally aced the class. "A"'s on everything. I would have aced the exam, too.

Like everything I've tried, just another dead-end. One more year and I could have a computer science, English, or art degree.

Can't get a grant now. Can't afford to pay my own way. And so I clean toilets. I try to make gaming a career. Then people like you make it a joke.[/quote]
So, funny! My entire life being reduced to the lowest dregs of society!

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

At the end of the day at the community meeting, you're not going to gain one bit of prestige or notoriety for being a "professional gamer."

Admiration means little to me. It's the money. Playing games and being mildly entertaining? People throw thousands of dollars at such individuals.

Everything you say is trolling.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

Not even a little bit. At best, you'll get some laughs, no matter how rich you are. If you said you were a professional plumber, you'd get a rush of new clients and a lot of applause. And, you may end up just as rich. :)

Is the smiley to tell me you are kidding or don't care about the situation? I am unable to tell the difference.

. . .

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Surely, you'd have a better chance at being rich if you were a professional plumber than a failed "pro-gamer."

I can unclog any toilet or sink. I can fix almost any car problem. I can diagnose residential wiring issues. I can fix nearly any problem with nearly any mechanical or electronic device. I can confirm that there is no money to be made from those particular skills. (You'd think otherwise. You're wrong.)

Getting a job isn't about skill. No one cares about that. It's about how you look and act. I always fail when it comes to that. As it's intrinsic and nothing I can do anything about.

Much like streaming, there's only so much room. It doesn't matter that I'm better at most things than most people. What matters is that I'm not exceptional when compared to the most exceptional. In that regard? I'm nothing, and I never will be.

No one cares about the dude that is naturally good at everything. Yet, somehow a master of none.

All I've ever wanted is to be good at something, and be recognized for it. I feel that's a really low bar. And I've failed.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

Already has.

I've developed such an aversion to competitive online gaming that it makes me physically ill to even think about it.

That is not a joke or exaggeration.

I believe you completely, absolutely, 100%.

Doesn't seem like it. Seems like all you do is make excuses to poke fun of me. Like Ogga, and the rest of the FGC.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

So, why do you pursue it if it is so very damaging?

Do you seriously not understand taking actions to better yourself? This is some alien concept to you?

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Don't do that to yourself. Gaming should be "fun" not some anxiety-inducing panic experience. Stop. Stop putting all that on yourself. You don't deserve that and shouldn't expect to feel like that.

Logical, but unrealistic.

People still play MvC2. For cash. A game from ~1998.

Doesn't matter if the makers support it. All that matters is that people keep playing it. [/quote]
Um.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

People make millions copy/pasting bad pictures of monkeys and selling them as NFTs. Does that somehow justify them or make them "professionals." Nobody is going to become noted as some great "Pro-Gamer" because they play MvC2 for ten bucks a pop on some seedy street-corner. :)

Alright, you aren't taking me seriously. Done with taking you seriously. Blocked.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

"Money" doesn't make something "professional." A professional is much more than someone who gets paid for their labor. Being a professional means some form of formal education, some form of oversight by licensing boards and standards, some form of licensing and renewal as well as formal, continuing, education. Those fighting-game guys playing for lunch money are probably not "professionals."

I think you should focus on finding some affirmation in the things you can do.

[/quote]
I can't beat anyone at any fighting game. That feels great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111 I'll use that as a basis. Thank you so much!

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

You have something that you can do and even if it's not perfect,

WRONG!

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

your own way of doing it may be excellent.

WRONG!

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

There's something out there that you do well

WRONG!

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

or even that you enjoy so much

WRONG!

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

you don't care if you don't do it well.

WRONG!

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

I'm not joking - You've tied yourself to "just this one thing" and nobody should ever do that.

There is nothing I have done that hasn't been done by someone 10000000000% better than I can ever hope to be. Not one thing. Not one thing.{/i] NOT ONE THING!

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

Ever here of grown men supporting a family and then defining themselves by their job and their workplace success?

This is how I know you are a troll.

Morkonan の投稿を引用：

They have everything.. a loving wife, great kids, a decent place to live for their family and food on the table and shirts on the kid's backs, but then they go to work and "define" themselves by their job position and salary.

You're kidding me, right? People that have everything (while I have nothing) and I'm supposed to empathize with that? You're insane.

[Jeff]

Tip: Learn to always think one step ahead.
Have one 'in the queue' as it were.
It's like speed reading: The way I taught myself to do it was to train my eyes to move just slightly quicker than I'm reading the words. If you do this every day, you'll eventually find you're always ahead of the average mind.

Gaming is nothing if not cerebral. Reflexes are important, yes, but I school quick players by thinking ahead all the time. Stopping, listening for a while, knowing where they are spatially... will trump them coming in guns blazing, even if their reflexes are super quick.

That's why I shake my head at these streamers in shooters who slide/hop everywhere like monkeys on speed. I am listening. I know where you are. I am going to get the drop on you.

Think ahead always.

Also, don't be so down on yourself. State of mind counts for a lot. Remember, many of these "pros" and streamers can afford to only think about gaming. You're a normal guy who has to work and tend to various responsibilities.

And though their lives seem glamorous, they're all catfish in a way. You're not seeing what they suck at. Keep doing you and improving you for your own personal reasons. Be your own standard to measure up against. Be better than yesterday's you tomorrow. And so on.

[Jackie Daytona]

iJeff729 の投稿を引用：

Tip: Learn to always think one step ahead.
Have one 'in the queue' as it were.
It's like speed reading: The way I taught myself to do it was to train my eyes to move just slightly quicker than I'm reading the words. If you do this every day, you'll eventually find you're always ahead of the average mind.

Gaming is nothing if not cerebral. Reflexes are important, yes, but I school quick players by thinking ahead all the time. Stopping, listening for a while, knowing where they are spatially... will trump them coming in guns blazing, even if their reflexes are super quick.

That's why I shake my head at these streamers in shooters who slide/hop everywhere like monkeys on speed. I am listening. I know where you are. I am going to get the drop on you.

Think ahead always.

Thinking ahead does nothing.

Not thinking ahead:

My opponent is attacking = block.
My opponent jumps = anti-air.
My opponent blocks = throw.

Thinking ahead:

My opponent will attack = opponent moves up and throws. (baiting attack/throw)
My opponent will jump = opponent does fake (upwards) jump or jumps short to fake. (baiting anti-air)
My opponent will block = I move up to throw but they jab or counter-throw. (baiting literally anything)

Thinking ahead does nothing. Average opponent is 100000000000 steps ahead. Nothing I do matters.

[Jeff]

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iJeff729 の投稿を引用：

Tip: Learn to always think one step ahead.
Have one 'in the queue' as it were.
It's like speed reading: The way I taught myself to do it was to train my eyes to move just slightly quicker than I'm reading the words. If you do this every day, you'll eventually find you're always ahead of the average mind.

Gaming is nothing if not cerebral. Reflexes are important, yes, but I school quick players by thinking ahead all the time. Stopping, listening for a while, knowing where they are spatially... will trump them coming in guns blazing, even if their reflexes are super quick.

That's why I shake my head at these streamers in shooters who slide/hop everywhere like monkeys on speed. I am listening. I know where you are. I am going to get the drop on you.

Think ahead always.

Thinking ahead does nothing.

Not thinking ahead:

My opponent is attacking = block.
My opponent jumps = anti-air.
My opponent blocks = throw.

Thinking ahead:

My opponent will attack = opponent moves up and throws.
My opponent will jump = opponent does fake (upwards) jump or jumps short to fake.
My opponent will block = I move up to throw but they jab or counter-throw.

Thinking ahead does nothing. Average opponent is 100000000000 steps ahead. Nothing I do matters.

You're your own opponent, Jackie.

[crunchyfrog]

Because there is a massive flaw in your approach from the off.

You say you turn to one game genre, and don't do well and move onto another.

Here's the flaw - NOBODY is an instant expert. Also if you're going in to win, then you also won't be having a great time either.

The problem you need to address then right off the bat is to EXPECT to lose every single game for a good long while and gradually make progress. It doesn't matter if you stifle for a while, you eventually get it.

And if you hold so much stake on winning then you simply aren't going to enjoy it anyway.

Whenever I play competitive multiplayer I couldn't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ whether I win or lose - I only hope to have an ejoyable game. The best ones I've had have been either the close ones, the ones where I learned something, or the ones where we've messed around. NEVER once has winning ever featured in it.

So I bet the biggest issue here is simply you're being too impatient. It's slow and you should work at it.

Once I got back into gaming with the era of the Playstation, I couldn't get to grips with the controller, and it took me quite a while to get the hang of racing games, which were my favourite of the time.

It took many weeks of playing with a friend's PS1 to get to finish a bloody race properly, then I had to learn tracks and so on.

And I refuse to believe you have made ZERO progress.

So exactly how long have you spent on each endeavour per genre? In one go, if you will.

Lastly - one tip that really helps especially right off the bat. Get a friend you can play with who isn't legaues above you in ability. Whether you know them personally or just find them online this WILL help.

You can also try adjusting the times of day you play too.

If you typically play around 4pm to around 9 or 10pm you will get a lot of teenagers and people likely less tolerant or given to in it purely for the fun or whatever. After 10pm you tend to find the better more relaxed adults playing. This is typically when I play.

[Jackie Daytona]

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

iJeff729 の投稿を引用：

Tip: Learn to always think one step ahead.
Have one 'in the queue' as it were.
It's like speed reading: The way I taught myself to do it was to train my eyes to move just slightly quicker than I'm reading the words. If you do this every day, you'll eventually find you're always ahead of the average mind.

Gaming is nothing if not cerebral. Reflexes are important, yes, but I school quick players by thinking ahead all the time. Stopping, listening for a while, knowing where they are spatially... will trump them coming in guns blazing, even if their reflexes are super quick.

That's why I shake my head at these streamers in shooters who slide/hop everywhere like monkeys on speed. I am listening. I know where you are. I am going to get the drop on you.

Think ahead always.

Thinking ahead does nothing.

Not thinking ahead:

My opponent is attacking = block.
My opponent jumps = anti-air.
My opponent blocks = throw.

Thinking ahead:

My opponent will attack = opponent moves up and throws. (baiting attack/throw)
My opponent will jump = opponent does fake (upwards) jump or jumps short to fake. (baiting anti-air)
My opponent will block = I move up to throw but they jab or counter-throw. (baiting literally anything)

Thinking ahead does nothing. Average opponent is 100000000000 steps ahead. Nothing I do matters.

An easy response but unhelpful. Like everyone in the FGC. You just want to attack.

[crunchyfrog]

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

Thinking ahead does nothing.

Not thinking ahead:

My opponent is attacking = block.
My opponent jumps = anti-air.
My opponent blocks = throw.

Thinking ahead:

My opponent will attack = opponent moves up and throws. (baiting attack/throw)
My opponent will jump = opponent does fake (upwards) jump or jumps short to fake. (baiting anti-air)
My opponent will block = I move up to throw but they jab or counter-throw. (baiting literally anything)

Thinking ahead does nothing. Average opponent is 100000000000 steps ahead. Nothing I do matters.

An easy response but unhelpful. Like everyone in the FGC. You just want to attack.

I'm sorry but if you're playing any strategy game you MUST think ahead. That's part and parcel of what goes on.

It does not mean "waste time thinking while the others are moving". It means when you start to get used to a game you start to learn what are likely moves ahead AUTOMATICALLY.

This is something borne of experience.