Nintendo finally killing Wii U & 3DS

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

So Nintendo said they be shutting down the store portion only in March 2023, not the download section so can still download what you bought.

• On May 2022 you no longer be able to use credit card to add funds to account via Wii U & 3DS.
  
• On August 2022 you no longer be able to redeem eshop Wallet gift cards via Wii U & 3DS.
  
• On March 2023 you no longer be able to redeem eshop codes via Wii U & 3DS, for any downloadable content, also demos, free-to-start software, passes such as StreetPass Mii Plaza, Theme Shop, Nintendo Badge Arcade and Pokémon Bank, will not be able to redownload.
  
• For 3DS themes there be free themes that remain downloadable via the theme shop.
  
• They did not disclose if they plan to cut off the download section of the platform for the Wii U & 3DS, nor did they disclose if they plan to shutdown the online multiplayer for games on those systems.
  
  https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57847

[RRW359]

Varsik289 の投稿を引用：

RRW359 の投稿を引用：

For one thing the existence of physical copies doesn't prevent it from being sold digitally, and for another are you saying you prefer 50-100+gb installs every time you buy a physical game on X1/PS4+ and buying new HDD's to accommodate them (or choosing which games you want to keep and not just being able to choose any game you have and play it on a whim due to needing to install it)?

You do that on pc too right?
You choose game and if you dont have it you install it...
No more space? Buy new SSD or hdd (they are cheap yet i think)
Doesnt sound any different from pc

How does defending the wiiU end in everyone thinking I'm promoting PC?

[Paratech2008]

Nintendo makes money "killing" obsolete systems and reselling the same games on "new" systems. They also tie "rentals" with a mediocre online service.

Someday it would be nice if Nintendo makes the leap to the modern world and use transferrable accounts for emulated games. For a company that hates emulation they make enough money selling emulated games on their hardware and rental/online service.

Seriously they are clueless on innovation...

[The Grim Reaper]

Just don't buy Nintendo?

[Paratech2008]

That works as well as not buying anything from Rockstar or Electronic Arts.

[TwisterCat]

Paratech2008 の投稿を引用：

That works as well as not buying anything from Rockstar or Electronic Arts.

Perhaps the comment is worth looking over, on a deeper level.

[crunchyfrog]

RRW359 の投稿を引用：

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

That's pure hyperbole.

VERY VERY few games have installs like that on top of the physical game. That's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Sure you get updates and it depends how much and how big they are. Most updates tend to be severy bit as small as they are on Steam, because they're often the same bloody games. They don't miraculously change just because console.

As for buying a new HDD, that also applies to Steam. Shockingly, I know, the more games you buy the more storage you need. Who would have thought?

I've got a PS4 with an internal 2TB drive and an external 6TB drive. I've got currently about 250 games I've bought on there, plus a few PS+ games. Every single one is installed on there, and it's dirt cheap to buy an external drive anyway. I also have three external drives for Steam too, so your point is utterly moot.

It's dead easy to play the whole "PC master race" nonsense but reality is another thing.

Also, if services go down, then updates no longer happen anyway rendering the point also moot. I have plenty of "dead" cosnoles like the original Xbox, the Wii and DSi, that services have shuttered for- there isn't a single game I cannot play. No more updates means I'm free to play them, so I don't see the point here at all.

I'm not I'm saying anything about PC. one of the best things about the wiiU was that it was the last console to not need installs for games, and that has been a huge factor in why I have less 8'th gen. games than previous. I know each game will take up a large portion of my storage. When I was growing up that was the defining thing in my mind that differentiated PC and Console gaming, PC needed installs and Consoles didn't (I know now it wasn't quite that black and white even then but still it was a factor).

And no. On wiiU and earlier the more games you got did NOT mean the more storage you needed. Maybe some for saves but that was technically optional and they didn't take up much space anyways.

Finally I never mentioned anything about updates but since you brought them up how do you get new games for older consoles digitally without doing things that will get this thread locked?

Ah I think you misunderstand. The points I brought up don't mean necessarily I'm retorting to YOU. I'm embellishing.

As for newer games that are digital well you just can't get them. That's how consoles work. It's also how PCs work too. If a newer game comes out and you haven't updated your PC you can't play it there either.

The reaon I'm obviously bringing up PC is because they are the two polar opposites in the market. They ARE the comparisons.

All I was getting at is you were rather wrong in your claims.

And on older consoles, I'm not referring to when you installed nothing. I'm referring to when you had hard drives. The more games you got the more drive space you used PERIOD. Every console with a hard drive or PC is the same. The Xbox and PS2 were the first to do this, and they absolutely did do it too.

[Marteun]

Q-T_3.14.exe の投稿を引用：

And so yet another era has come to an end.

sad

[RRW359]

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

RRW359 の投稿を引用：

I'm not I'm saying anything about PC. one of the best things about the wiiU was that it was the last console to not need installs for games, and that has been a huge factor in why I have less 8'th gen. games than previous. I know each game will take up a large portion of my storage. When I was growing up that was the defining thing in my mind that differentiated PC and Console gaming, PC needed installs and Consoles didn't (I know now it wasn't quite that black and white even then but still it was a factor).

And no. On wiiU and earlier the more games you got did NOT mean the more storage you needed. Maybe some for saves but that was technically optional and they didn't take up much space anyways.

Finally I never mentioned anything about updates but since you brought them up how do you get new games for older consoles digitally without doing things that will get this thread locked?

Ah I think you misunderstand. The points I brought up don't mean necessarily I'm retorting to YOU. I'm embellishing.

As for newer games that are digital well you just can't get them. That's how consoles work. It's also how PCs work too. If a newer game comes out and you haven't updated your PC you can't play it there either.

The reaon I'm obviously bringing up PC is because they are the two polar opposites in the market. They ARE the comparisons.

All I was getting at is you were rather wrong in your claims.

And on older consoles, I'm not referring to when you installed nothing. I'm referring to when you had hard drives. The more games you got the more drive space you used PERIOD. Every console with a hard drive or PC is the same. The Xbox and PS2 were the first to do this, and they absolutely did do it too.

Fair enough but as for your last paragraph Xbox did it but GC and DC didn't. The PS2 had one game (in North America at least) that required a Hard Drive and a couple that were better with it but didn't require it. Also it never did full installs and they even removed the HDD slot in later models. The 360 rarely needed them but it wasn't unheard of and again never fully. I don't have enough experience with the PS3 to know for sure but from what I understand it was more common than 360 and never fully but I know all the games I have for it didn't need one at all. To my knowledge the Wii didn't and I think I heard Watch Dogs needed a partial install on wiiU of something like 128mb but otherwise they all streamed from the disk. Also it wasn't completely unheard of for PC games to only require partial installs before Steam came along and there were even some games simple enough that they didn't need installs at all.

[KennyAtom]

HowdyYall の投稿を引用：

-gilvasunner incident

irony is that wasn't even Nintendo, when they copyright claim it's always "Nintendo of America" or "Nintendo Co. JP", never just Nintendo.

Do they mass copyright claim music still? Yes. Do they still suck? Yes. But this time, it wasn't their fault Gilvasunner got ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in the ass by YouTube this time they could have at least taken him to dinner afterwards, after the huge ass ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. It was a copyright troll at that point.

[Luis the Uma Loving Wizard]

Looks like scott the woz is gonna have another apocalypse on his hands

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

it's would have been fair to copyright claim gilvasunner if nintendo actually went and made their music available on their own streaming channel either youtube spotify or something.

[crunchyfrog]

RRW359 の投稿を引用：

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

Ah I think you misunderstand. The points I brought up don't mean necessarily I'm retorting to YOU. I'm embellishing.

As for newer games that are digital well you just can't get them. That's how consoles work. It's also how PCs work too. If a newer game comes out and you haven't updated your PC you can't play it there either.

The reaon I'm obviously bringing up PC is because they are the two polar opposites in the market. They ARE the comparisons.

All I was getting at is you were rather wrong in your claims.

And on older consoles, I'm not referring to when you installed nothing. I'm referring to when you had hard drives. The more games you got the more drive space you used PERIOD. Every console with a hard drive or PC is the same. The Xbox and PS2 were the first to do this, and they absolutely did do it too.

Fair enough but as for your last paragraph Xbox did it but GC and DC didn't. The PS2 had one game (in North America at least) that required a Hard Drive and a couple that were better with it but didn't require it. Also it never did full installs and they even removed the HDD slot in later models. The 360 rarely needed them but it wasn't unheard of and again never fully. I don't have enough experience with the PS3 to know for sure but from what I understand it was more common than 360 and never fully but I know all the games I have for it didn't need one at all. To my knowledge the Wii didn't and I think I heard Watch Dogs needed a partial install on wiiU of something like 128mb but otherwise they all streamed from the disk. Also it wasn't completely unheard of for PC games to only require partial installs before Steam came along and there were even some games simple enough that they didn't need installs at all.

As for this I think you are still misunderstanding a bit. I never said the Gamecube and Dreamcast did. They obviously didn't.

But the PS2 and Xbox deefinitely did.

You did have FF XI which was the only game that MUST use the hard drive (and then we didn't get it in the EU), but you could install many many games if you so wished. You weren't required to as it was purely optional but did speed things up a bit.

I've since done it for when I want to play tyhe games I most often return to.

But the whole point of that was to illustrate that the more games you have the more space it takes up and they certainly do.

Both the Xbox and the PS2 do partially install games on their hard drives as well as store saves (well the Xbox stores saves on the drive as well as memory card, if you're so inclined).

The 360 and PS3 defo do require the hard drive to varying degrees. The PS3 especvially as almost every game on there has some preinstall. Not so much with the 360 although it's still many games that do get preinstalled.

There are a few games like later Forza entries where you can choose to install one disc or if you have the two disc edition, you can also choose to add the cars from that extra disc too.

The Wii absolutely you can bung on hard drive as I've done that too because quite simply I don't have enough space on the internal memory to accommodate them. The same goes for the WiiU too.

Basically it's horses for courses, but the bottom line remains that the more games you have the more drive space you're going to need. That's unavoidable.

[Paratech2008]

TwisterCat の投稿を引用：

Paratech2008 の投稿を引用：

That works as well as not buying anything from Rockstar or Electronic Arts.

Perhaps the comment is worth looking over, on a deeper level. :captainsinful:

Nintendo has sold more units of the Switch than any other Nintendo hardware. 1 million people could complain about Nintendo's policies and they wouldn't care.

It's the same way with Rockstar, electronic arts, Ubisoft, and any other big company. They don't care what anyone thinks as long as they take in billions of $$$ annually.

[crunchyfrog]

Paratech2008 の投稿を引用：

TwisterCat の投稿を引用：

Perhaps the comment is worth looking over, on a deeper level. :captainsinful:

Nintendo has sold more units of the Switch than any other Nintendo hardware. 1 million people could complain about Nintendo's policies and they wouldn't care.

It's the same way with Rockstar, electronic arts, Ubisoft, and any other big company. They don't care what anyone thinks as long as they take in billions of $$$ annually.

To be fair though, it's far from surprising that these services are shutting. They are fairly typically timed after the end of those consoles' lives. Maybe the 3DS is a bit too soon frankly, but otherwise this is quite normal.

It can't go on forever.

[Paratech2008]

Nintendo profits in doing so by reselling the IP on every system.

My point is they could have accounts that could be transferred across hardware as Steam accounts work.

I pointed out my 2008 Steam account has been used on several PCs, more than I can count.

Nintendo and Sony choose to not do that because they want to resell the same games on multiple hardware and too many gamers are stupid enough to support it.

With an account you could kill the old store and let people buy new hardware taking the emulated games from one piece of hardware to another as Steam supports. It's just Nintendo and Sony are greedy and won't do it.