Nintendo finally killing Wii U & 3DS

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

So Nintendo said they be shutting down the store portion only in March 2023, not the download section so can still download what you bought.

• On May 2022 you no longer be able to use credit card to add funds to account via Wii U & 3DS.
  
• On August 2022 you no longer be able to redeem eshop Wallet gift cards via Wii U & 3DS.
  
• On March 2023 you no longer be able to redeem eshop codes via Wii U & 3DS, for any downloadable content, also demos, free-to-start software, passes such as StreetPass Mii Plaza, Theme Shop, Nintendo Badge Arcade and Pokémon Bank, will not be able to redownload.
  
• For 3DS themes there be free themes that remain downloadable via the theme shop.
  
• They did not disclose if they plan to cut off the download section of the platform for the Wii U & 3DS, nor did they disclose if they plan to shutdown the online multiplayer for games on those systems.
  
  https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57847

[Varsik]

Originally posted by Devsman:

Originally posted by Varsik289:

Streaming from the disk? You mean streaming like a Twitch streamer or what?

Video games used to come on discs, and they would load the data from there.

But there are faster things than discs now....
You are lucky switch still has physical copies but digital copies despite its disadvantage are still way better

[S73v3NH4wk1n9]

the 3ds is really cool tech tbh, yes its potato chip powered but i love the 3d when i use the "new" model with the head tracking.

I hope one day nintendo returns to the tech, maybe with holograms, i dunno.

[Lambros]

Welcome to how I felt when they announced the Nintendo Switch so early into the Wii U life span. Now that everyone in videogames is charging for access to their network hopefully they will maintain digital libraries for consumers to grow and pass on to their families like it was with physical libraries. But I prob just dreaming.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by Lambros:

Welcome to how I felt when they announced the Nintendo Switch so early into the Wii U life span. Now that everyone in videogames is charging for access to their network hopefully they will maintain digital libraries for consumers to grow and pass on to their families like it was with physical libraries. But I prob just dreaming.

Microsoft making these effort to support old digital games with backwards play, rumors claim Sony might do backward play via PS5 which I kind of doubt since their higher ups keep asking dumb question why people want to play old games, or going to be limited to what get supported, and another rumor Nintendo may support switch games in the next gen console, but that unclear since we have no info on next console.

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by 8bitbeard:

This is why I love PC gaming.

This platform never gets "depreciated". What's stopping me from playing games from 10, 20, 30+ years ago? Hardware changes sometimes complicate that, but really nothing with the right workarounds. I can happily fire up Commander Keen today on modern hardware. I can even install it from the original floppy disk if I want with a cheap USB floppy drive. Good luck cramming an NES cartridge into your Switch. Oh, you want to play the original Legend of Zelda? Cough up the cash for the subscription service. Never mind that you already bought the game on NES, Gameboy Advance, DS, Wii, 3DS, and Wii U. Those are the old platforms.

I hope console makers, Nintendo included, hit a wall where creating their own walled-garden hardware platforms is no longer profitable enough to make it worth it. Everything sort of merges into PC. You'll still have "consoles" and "handhelds", but they'll be PCs.

Except that's ignoring some very major hurdles that still apply.

I play all platforms and they all have their pros and cons.

PCs are indeed great for being open and having mods. But it ain't anything like as rosy as you claim where you can play old games. Often they do not work at all, or are a constant struggle. So if you get them working after a bit of fiddling, cool. But it ain't always the case. Far from it.

Of all the older Eidos games I have on here, Legacy of Kain, Tomb Raider, Deus Ex and so on, many of those work but nothing like fine. Some need a hell of a lot of care and attention. Tomb Rasider needed some work to get joysticks to work now for example.

But you're ignoring something major though.

If you have the console, and you have PHYSICAL media you can play them forever. So your argument falls flat. Sure if they stop selling digital goods, then you just make sure you have them downlaoded.

Now going further down the road you sure can say, well Steam offers these games for so far 18 years. Except that's not quite true., If things are perfect true. But companies go tits up, licences expire and so on, and games do indeed come and go, so you still get left in exactly the SAME position as those consoles.

So no it isn't quite like you claim.

[Siluva]

Originally posted by Paratech2008:

And none of it will transfer to the Switch.

They'll resell everything on it and wonder why gamers get mad.

They gonna do like Sony, a Nintendo equivalent of Playsation Now.
Aka bs.

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by Siluva:

Originally posted by Paratech2008:

And none of it will transfer to the Switch.

They'll resell everything on it and wonder why gamers get mad.

They gonna do like Sony, a Nintendo equivalent of Playsation Now.
Aka bs.

Well you can't blame them frankly.

If people buy it, why shouldn't they sell it again?

Something I'd never do, but they're just supplying demand frankly.

[Der tüddelige Fußgänger]

Sad :(

At least my wiiU collection is entirely made out of physical games. (Only have a few download games where there are no physical releases)

Just hope that the update servers will remain so that if you buy a game it can still be updated.

Games like botw NEED an update so you can even start it. (And it takes almost an hour to update)

Yet many games don't require any updates at all.

Just sad to see this happen to all the exclusive wiiU games.
(it is already impossible to buy meme run)

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by The Nintendo guy:

Sad :(

At least my wiiU collection is entirely made out of physical games. (Only have a few download games where there are no physical releases)

Just hope that the update servers will remain so that if you buy a game it can still be updated.

Games like botw NEED an update so you can even start it. (And it takes almost an hour to update)

Yet many games don't require any updates at all.

Just sad to see this happen to all the exclusive wiiU games.
(it is already impossible to buy meme run)

Well the thing is it's a double whammy but to the good.
When the servers shutdown not only will you not be able to get such updates, but it doesn't matter because they won't be able to update either, so as long as you keep it updated until things shutter, you won't have any issue.

I get your point though.

Personally I have most of my games physically because I always will buy physical anyway. as I play games for decades afterwards.

But in this case, I bought a WiiU cheap a couple of years ago as I LOVE to buy consoles either after they fail and nobody wants them or when just they're a couple of generations back and nobody wants them. I stock up.

So I have almost every WiiU game I want and most of them I picked up from CEX for WELL under a fiver each. Many were 50p or £1.50.

Can't argue when things get that low.

[RRW359]

Originally posted by Varsik289:

Originally posted by Devsman:

Video games used to come on discs, and they would load the data from there.

But there are faster things than discs now....
You are lucky switch still has physical copies but digital copies despite its disadvantage are still way better

For one thing the existence of physical copies doesn't prevent it from being sold digitally, and for another are you saying you prefer 50-100+gb installs every time you buy a physical game on X1/PS4+ and buying new HDD's to accommodate them (or choosing which games you want to keep and not just being able to choose any game you have and play it on a whim due to needing to install it)?

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by RRW359:

Originally posted by Varsik289:

But there are faster things than discs now....
You are lucky switch still has physical copies but digital copies despite its disadvantage are still way better

For one thing the existence of physical copies doesn't prevent it from being sold digitally, and for another are you saying you prefer 50-100+gb installs every time you buy a physical game on X1/PS4+ and buying new HDD's to accommodate them (or choosing which games you want to keep and not just being able to choose any game you have and play it on a whim due to needing to install it)?

That's pure hyperbole.

VERY VERY few games have installs like that on top of the physical game. That's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Sure you get updates and it depends how much and how big they are. Most updates tend to be severy bit as small as they are on Steam, because they're often the same bloody games. They don't miraculously change just because console.

As for buying a new HDD, that also applies to Steam. Shockingly, I know, the more games you buy the more storage you need. Who would have thought?

I've got a PS4 with an internal 2TB drive and an external 6TB drive. I've got currently about 250 games I've bought on there, plus a few PS+ games. Every single one is installed on there, and it's dirt cheap to buy an external drive anyway. I also have three external drives for Steam too, so your point is utterly moot.

It's dead easy to play the whole "PC master race" nonsense but reality is another thing.

Also, if services go down, then updates no longer happen anyway rendering the point also moot. I have plenty of "dead" cosnoles like the original Xbox, the Wii and DSi, that services have shuttered for- there isn't a single game I cannot play. No more updates means I'm free to play them, so I don't see the point here at all.

[RRW359]

Originally posted by crunchyfrog:

Originally posted by RRW359:

For one thing the existence of physical copies doesn't prevent it from being sold digitally, and for another are you saying you prefer 50-100+gb installs every time you buy a physical game on X1/PS4+ and buying new HDD's to accommodate them (or choosing which games you want to keep and not just being able to choose any game you have and play it on a whim due to needing to install it)?

That's pure hyperbole.

VERY VERY few games have installs like that on top of the physical game. That's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Sure you get updates and it depends how much and how big they are. Most updates tend to be severy bit as small as they are on Steam, because they're often the same bloody games. They don't miraculously change just because console.

As for buying a new HDD, that also applies to Steam. Shockingly, I know, the more games you buy the more storage you need. Who would have thought?

I've got a PS4 with an internal 2TB drive and an external 6TB drive. I've got currently about 250 games I've bought on there, plus a few PS+ games. Every single one is installed on there, and it's dirt cheap to buy an external drive anyway. I also have three external drives for Steam too, so your point is utterly moot.

It's dead easy to play the whole "PC master race" nonsense but reality is another thing.

Also, if services go down, then updates no longer happen anyway rendering the point also moot. I have plenty of "dead" cosnoles like the original Xbox, the Wii and DSi, that services have shuttered for- there isn't a single game I cannot play. No more updates means I'm free to play them, so I don't see the point here at all.

I'm not I'm saying anything about PC. one of the best things about the wiiU was that it was the last console to not need installs for games, and that has been a huge factor in why I have less 8'th gen. games than previous. I know each game will take up a large portion of my storage. When I was growing up that was the defining thing in my mind that differentiated PC and Console gaming, PC needed installs and Consoles didn't (I know now it wasn't quite that black and white even then but still it was a factor).

And no. On wiiU and earlier the more games you got did NOT mean the more storage you needed. Maybe some for saves but that was technically optional and they didn't take up much space anyways.

Finally I never mentioned anything about updates but since you brought them up how do you get new games for older consoles digitally without doing things that will get this thread locked?

[Siluva]

Originally posted by crunchyfrog:

Well you can't blame them frankly.

If people buy it, why shouldn't they sell it again?

Something I'd never do, but they're just supplying demand frankly.

I'd blame them for the whole move around it.

Sony removed backward compatibility because according to them "it wasn't that much used", which is kind of an iffy argument.

Letting the backward compatibility harm no ones. You could argue about the cost of production (First PS3 serie had a "physical" emulator, a smoll component emulating the PS2) and I would agree, but considering that it been implemented in the OS on later versions of PS3 (then they made update to remove it wtf??), well, there is not cost and no loss anymore.

And if the backward compatibility is so unused, how come that the first series of PS3 is the most searched and now cost twice as much that the ones who don't?
If it's so unused and caused loss, why does Sony allocated a store, servers (with an upkeep cost) for it later one?

They could just added a "software" emulator back, which added a plus value to the console, but nope, feel more like Sony have seen an opportunity to milk money out of old games.

So I totally blame them.

[Der tüddelige Fußgänger]

Originally posted by crunchyfrog:

Originally posted by The Nintendo guy:

Sad :(

At least my wiiU collection is entirely made out of physical games. (Only have a few download games where there are no physical releases)

Just hope that the update servers will remain so that if you buy a game it can still be updated.

Games like botw NEED an update so you can even start it. (And it takes almost an hour to update)

Yet many games don't require any updates at all.

Just sad to see this happen to all the exclusive wiiU games.
(it is already impossible to buy meme run)

Well the thing is it's a double whammy but to the good.
When the servers shutdown not only will you not be able to get such updates, but it doesn't matter because they won't be able to update either, so as long as you keep it updated until things shutter, you won't have any issue.

I get your point though.

Personally I have most of my games physically because I always will buy physical anyway. as I play games for decades afterwards.

But in this case, I bought a WiiU cheap a couple of years ago as I LOVE to buy consoles either after they fail and nobody wants them or when just they're a couple of generations back and nobody wants them. I stock up.

So I have almost every WiiU game I want and most of them I picked up from CEX for WELL under a fiver each. Many were 50p or £1.50.

Can't argue when things get that low.

I get your idea. Update everything now, before it's too late

But what if i found a cool game in 2 years, but it requires an update.
Or what if you decide to buy a wiiU in a few years and you can't play botw, one of the best games I've ever played, because of the lack of updates

Let's hope that the Pretendo project will develop faster (A project to rebuild the miiverse)
Maybe they could also offer updates for games (Should also be legel, since the updates themself are completely useless by themself)
The wiiU has a good homebrew community. Let's hope pretendo will deliver

[Varsik]

Originally posted by RRW359:

Originally posted by Varsik289:

But there are faster things than discs now....
You are lucky switch still has physical copies but digital copies despite its disadvantage are still way better

For one thing the existence of physical copies doesn't prevent it from being sold digitally, and for another are you saying you prefer 50-100+gb installs every time you buy a physical game on X1/PS4+ and buying new HDD's to accommodate them (or choosing which games you want to keep and not just being able to choose any game you have and play it on a whim due to needing to install it)?

You do that on pc too right?
You choose game and if you dont have it you install it...
No more space? Buy new SSD or hdd (they are cheap yet i think)
Doesnt sound any different from pc