Valve/Steam Being Sued by Humble Bundle creator

[$2 Hero]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/gaming/as-epic-v-apple-approaches-the-courtroom-valve-is-getting-sued-over-steam-too/ar-BB1ggrbP?ocid=msedgntp

LOL that article

Humble Bundle claims 30% cut is too much even though they take 25%.

Humble Bundle is owned by Wolfire Games which developed Overgrowth. Yea that bunny game that was sold as an alpha at $30+ for like 8+ years and then was never even finished. Yep these people really care about helping the consumers LMAOOO.

We need to audit Humble Bundle to see how much $$ actually goes to these charities because I'm guessing... *points*

[♥Peachboy♥]

Humble Bundle is false advertising because bundles can’t be humble because they don’t have feelings

[TomokoZerra]

With all the feature valve offers its 30% cut is reasonable. I also don't see why this is humble bundles business at all either.

[Electric Cupcake]

Yes. It's sad, considering Humble Store and Gog are the only real competitors Steam has.

Epic and Uplay and Origin are complete trash.

Valve did adjust their store cut a while back, and the key generation seems like a reasonable enough system. But maybe putting pressure on them will shake them out of their comfortable laziness and they'll remember how they got to where they are start making 1st party games again.

[☆ id/SweetRin ☆ [JP]]

If valve lowers the 30% cut they will still get that 5% cut from you the consumer by raising the price of all games on steam by 5%. Simple math.

[Blargo]

Why is specifically Valve's 30% cut suddenly a big issue for everyone now?
Isn't 30% the standard across most other game publishing platforms as well?

[☆ id/SweetRin ☆ [JP]]

Originally posted by Dxpress:

Why is specifically Valve's 30% cut suddenly a big issue for everyone now?
Isn't 30% the standard across most other game publishing platforms as well?

I believe yes, but don't take my word on it. I only use steam mostly to really know what steam takes as a cut.

[$2 Hero]

Originally posted by Dxpress:

Why is specifically Valve's 30% cut suddenly a big issue for everyone now?
Isn't 30% the standard across most other game publishing platforms as well?

Well according to the article Humble is mad and blames Steam for other big publishers no longer putting their games in Humble Bundles and is mad because Steam no longer gives Humble Steam keys which are then later sold/traded on key sites. It's a total joke lawsuit.

[TomokoZerra]

Originally posted by My Name Is The Plague:

Originally posted by Dxpress:

Why is specifically Valve's 30% cut suddenly a big issue for everyone now?
Isn't 30% the standard across most other game publishing platforms as well?

Well according to the article Humble is mad and blames Steam for other big publishers no longer putting their games in Humble Bundles and is mad because Steam no longer gives Humble Steam keys which are then later sold/traded on key sites. It's a total joke lawsuit.

Sounds like humble bundle is going to lose the lawsuit to me.

[hsf_]

Originally posted by Dxpress:

Why is specifically Valve's 30% cut suddenly a big issue for everyone now?
Isn't 30% the standard across most other game publishing platforms as well?

Isn't there another platform that is now offering to take just a 12% cut? I swear I saw something on these forums about it.

[$2 Hero]

Originally posted by hsf_:

Originally posted by Dxpress:

Why is specifically Valve's 30% cut suddenly a big issue for everyone now?
Isn't 30% the standard across most other game publishing platforms as well?

Isn't there another platform that is now offering to take just a 12% cut? I swear I saw something on these forums about it.

All that info is in the article I linked.

[tmwfte]

Originally posted by My Name Is The Plague:

Humble Bundle is owned by Wolfire Games...

Uh...Humble haven't been owned by Wolfire since 2010. They got spun off as a separate company almost immediately after they were founded. They're now own by the same company that owns IGN, have been for some years now.

[Ice Robertson]

I never really thought about how much steam takes from each sale, i don't really care too much either....

...If i can afford a game or whatever, I buy it.

I mean back in the day when i paid $100 NZD for a big boxed game, I'm sure whatever shop i was buying it from was making a good profit.

[$2 Hero]

Originally posted by tmwfte:

Originally posted by My Name Is The Plague:

Humble Bundle is owned by Wolfire Games...

Uh...Humble haven't been owned by Wolfire since 2010. They got spun off as a separate company almost immediately after they were founded. They're now own by the same company that owns IGN, have been for some years now.

UMM what is Wolfire doing suing valve then

Wolfire says that the Humble Bundle in particular has been a victim of Valve’s practices — the lawsuit claims that “publishers became more and more reluctant to participate in Humble Bundle events, decreasing the quantity and quality of products available to Humble Bundle customers,” because they feared retaliation if Humble Bundle buyers resold their Steam keys on the grey market for cheap — and though Valve once worked with Humble Bundle on a keyless direct integration, the lawsuit claims that Valve abruptly pulled the plug on that partnership with no explanation.

[hsf_]

Originally posted by Ice:

I never really thought about how much steam takes from each sale, i don't really care too much either....

...If i can afford a game or whatever, I buy it.

I mean back in the day when i paid $100 NZD for a big boxed game, I'm sure whatever shop i was buying it from was making a good profit.

I could be wrong, but I think it was different buying hard copies.

I believe that at the time, video game stores would buy bulk batches from the developer/publisher for a set fee, then would mark up the price to gain profits when selling. Buy for a dollar, sell for two.

[Harry Gumdropzap]

Originally posted by Dxpress:

Why is specifically Valve's 30% cut suddenly a big issue for everyone now?
Isn't 30% the standard across most other game publishing platforms as well?

just because something is standard does not mean you have to abide by it
if companies feel they should get a higher cut, they are most likely going to fight for it

there was tons of standards in history that changed, expectations change over time and i dont see a reason why this industry would be exempt from this