We finally "officially" have made a successful Human-Animal hybrid. Thoughts?

[Uncle Sam]

Source by Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/04/15/scientists-have-created-embryos-that-are-part-human-part-monkey/?sh=5860a47c396c

So well, I didn't expected DNA modification tools get this advanced this early in the century. So What do you guys think? Planet of Apes or some funky new lethal diseases might come around and bite us in the ass later on? Or a more optimistic point of view?

[Little Miss Terror]

引用自 Mr. H.U.N.K.：

引用自 Roseate, Her Thighness：

If they are like humans, then they should be treated as such.

Indeed, the thing is they aren't 100% human neither a 100% animal. They're an hybrid it's a 1st of it's kind atleast as far the public & myself knows it, who knows if this type of tech was made decades before or not.

The genetic makeup is irrelevant to ethical questions.

[Uncle Sam]

引用自 Irene ❤：

The article says the benefit of research is creating much needed organs. I think making new life and using life to trade organs for another life is never the solution. It is murder with extra steps.

However, if it's about creating the best human life (human and human DNA) so that our future generations can live longer, look better, become wiser, that I support. At it's mastery stage humanity could gain immortality. Each baby can be looked after by the government and becoming a high ranked army officer.

Indeed, however his kind of tech is a double edge sword. Depending how it's used and by whom it can lead to very good advancements OR unseen "special" consequences being super optimistic.

[Uncle Sam]

引用自 Roseate, Her Thighness：

引用自 Mr. H.U.N.K.：

Indeed, the thing is they aren't 100% human neither a 100% animal. They're an hybrid it's a 1st of it's kind atleast as far the public & myself knows it, who knows if this type of tech was made decades before or not.

The genetic makeup is irrelevant to ethical questions.

That's a good point, however we aren't giving funds to the project. We don't got a direct say, whetever we can do something for that new "kind" of living being.

I would personally love to know, whom is funding this research & which govt is involved on this. So far all we know is they're Americans & Chinese and Spain researchers involved in this.

[Morphic]

引用自 Mr. H.U.N.K.：

引用自 Crazed Rabbit：

ed....ward......

Snowden?

引用自 Roseate, Her Thighness：

引用自 Mr. H.U.N.K.：

Snowden?

Kenway?

I think it was a reference to an anime where an Alchemist creates human chimeras by fusing a human with an animal. First he uses his wife, then later he uses his own daughter.

As for the topic... IMO, experimentation such as this is necessary if "we" as a collective species wish to fast track evolution and modify ourselves beyond the bounds of natural limitations. Creating enhanced humans to be smarter, faster, stronger, more durable, etc. If you've taken a few Biology course, you'll see just how scary the human body is and the untapped potential it has.

There is a lot of good that can come from this, just as there is a lot of evil that can come from it. IMO, it's akin to Atomic research; it led to weapons capable of eradicating all known life but it also led to one of the cleanest, safest, and most efficient form of energy. (Nuclear power plants. Seriously, research them.)

In regards to "Rights" of "Human animal hybrids"... IMO, it depends on their intelligence capable and expected life span. If they are as intelligent as a human but only have a lifespan of ~20 years and mature as quickly as a dog or cat, then I'd say they should be classified and treated as a pet such as dogs/cats. But if their lifespan is ~40+ then they should have the rights akin to a human.

[gugnihr]

引用自 Zenith：

I doubt human-animal hybrids will look anything like miqo'te, viera and other such humanoids with animal ears and tails. It is more likely to be something atrocious with a short lifespan.

Don't worry, put a few pictures of those monstrosities online and after a few years people who get aroused watching them will start to show up :P

[gugnihr]

引用自 n00by：

Horrible for the ones who will be born and living because they will be rejected from human society or simply toys for their creators.

Interesting from a scientific point of view though.

Modifiying the DNA to make us stronger, smarter and better is much more ethical.

I don't know, messing with DNA to make us stronger and better ounds even more dangerous to me, black swan effect almost guaranteed imo.

I think if we study those things we should just stick to solve problems like genetic diseases, this kind of things.
If things go wrong even this way then at least we could say that it is not our fault and we only had the best intentions.

[Little Miss Terror]

引用自 Mr. H.U.N.K.：

引用自 Roseate, Her Thighness：

The genetic makeup is irrelevant to ethical questions.

That's a good point, however we aren't giving funds to the project. We don't got a direct say, whetever we can do something for that new "kind" of living being.

I would personally love to know, whom is funding this research & which govt is involved on this. So far all we know is they're Americans & Chinese and Spain researchers involved in this.

I somehow don't feel as if this is the work of any government. Either way, the respective governments will be the ones who decide.

[Uncle Sam]

引用自 Morphic：

引用自 Mr. H.U.N.K.：

Snowden?

引用自 Roseate, Her Thighness：

Kenway?

I think it was a reference to an anime where an Alchemist creates human chimeras by fusing a human with an animal. First he uses his wife, then later he uses his own daughter.

As for the topic... IMO, experimentation such as this is necessary if "we" as a collective species wish to fast track evolution and modify ourselves beyond the bounds of natural limitations. Creating enhanced humans to be smarter, faster, stronger, more durable, etc. If you've taken a few Biology course, you'll see just how scary the human body is and the untapped potential it has.

There is a lot of good that can come from this, just as there is a lot of evil that can come from it. IMO, it's akin to Atomic research; it led to weapons capable of eradicating all known life but it also led to one of the cleanest, safest, and most efficient form of energy. (Nuclear power plants. Seriously, research them.)

In regards to "Rights" of "Human animal hybrids"... IMO, it depends on their intelligence capable and expected life span. If they are as intelligent as a human but only have a lifespan of ~20 years and mature as quickly as a dog or cat, then I'd say they should be classified and treated as a pet such as dogs/cats. But if their lifespan is ~40+ then they should have the rights akin to a human.

Thanks for the insight about that reference, and agreed with your statement. However about the "rights" of those "hybrids", probably need to be discussed for a quite a while as multiplies societies across the globe might have a different point of view about "them" or "it"? I don't know what to call those hybrids tbh.

[Little Miss Terror]

引用自 Morphic：

If they are as intelligent as a human but only have a lifespan of ~20 years and mature as quickly as a dog or cat, then I'd say they should be classified and treated as a pet such as dogs/cats.

That gets immediately shot down as an option as soon as a comparison to humans with terminal conditions is made.

[Grendalcat]

There are certain countries, where the rights of 100% humans are not a consideration.
If those same countries engaged in this kind of experimentation, creating chimeras, I doubt the rights of the chimeras would be given any consideration whatsoever.

[Uncle Sam]

引用自 Roseate, Her Thighness：

引用自 Mr. H.U.N.K.：

That's a good point, however we aren't giving funds to the project. We don't got a direct say, whetever we can do something for that new "kind" of living being.

I would personally love to know, whom is funding this research & which govt is involved on this. So far all we know is they're Americans & Chinese and Spain researchers involved in this.

I somehow don't feel as if this is the work of any government. Either way, the respective governments will be the ones who decide.

Fair enough, still I do hope before this century ends we get all the data about whom or which govt & countries gave the "okay green light" to this research in such short amount of time (years wise). And when the "original test" have begun, alongside all the "failures" this project got so far.

The more data is released to the public (except sensitive ones aka NOT release how to make those beings, so radical & extremist sectors don't use to it's own benefit) the better for transparency sake.

[Uncle Sam]

引用自 Roseate, Her Thighness：

引用自 Morphic：

If they are as intelligent as a human but only have a lifespan of ~20 years and mature as quickly as a dog or cat, then I'd say they should be classified and treated as a pet such as dogs/cats.

That gets immediately shot down as an option as soon as a comparison to humans with terminal conditions is made.

There's also the ethical & legal dilemma that's the euthanasia among other more "sensitive" topics.

[Captain n00by]

引用自 gugnihr：

I have always thought that nature is bad and humanity is good and I still think that nature is bad and evil but obviously there is something really wrong in humanity too, or at least in part of it.
After all it makes sense: nature made us just like everything else.

Nature is beyond good and evil, it's humans who are a weird mixture of animal and demi-god.

Because we put ourselves in the role of the Creator (and Destroyer) but we're still bound by our animal nature.

This makes us unique and capable of both, great and horrible things at the same time.

Some would say we're an error of nature, but I stay at my view.

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

Wait a minute... I've seen this movie before... It doesn't end well for all parties involved.


https://youtu.be/JJUSCUaqMTk

[Little Miss Terror]

引用自 gugnihr：

引用自 Mr. H.U.N.K.：

Or a more optimistic point of view?

I want to be optimistic: let's hope that something really bad happens to those retarded fools.

Anyway I want to be positive, I really really hope that something really bad happens to those ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

I'm not sure that I can put this kindly: that is probably one of the most twisted views of positivity I have ever seen.